Country Funk?

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I feel like I've heard Johnny Guitar before. Is it on a Tarantino film?

i've got no idea! google isn't much of a help, either. but i wouldn't be surprised.

wind and wtfering (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Tuesday, 25 November 2008 02:58 (fifteen years ago) link

jim ford was super funky

velko, Tuesday, 25 November 2008 03:09 (fifteen years ago) link

There's a Jim Ford thread, but I still haven't heard him. Some say his own albums were too cute, others love 'em, but in his time (RIP, right?)was mainly known as a picker and writer, apparently (Heard a Fresh Air interview, which you could prob still access on or from their site, in which Nick Lowe talks about playing a session with Ford, how very good he was, and that Ford, Bobbie Gentry's ex, claimed to have written "Ode To Billy Joe," and Lowe, knowing Ford's and Gentry's other songs, was inclined to believe him). Don't know what version of "Johnny Guitar" is referred to here, but the original was theme of the 50s Westerd, directed by Nicholas Ray, though it's rich pulp, starring Joan Crawford in her late prime.Technicolor noir soap/horse opera, like if Douglas Sirk were to do a Western. (But that could be closer to country funk than Ray's flick, as Sirk's Tarnished Angels, based on Faulkner's Pylon, about wired, smoldering , rattle-in-the saddle Southern Gothic barnstorming pilots, kinda fits) I'd say Eddie Hinton, with yowling, raspy but sometimes sweet vocals and all kinds of Muscle Shoals instrumental talent, def incl his versatile own, displayed even or especially on demos collected for The Songwriting Sessions (first two vols are the essentials, 3. is more for Hinton junkies only, but 1. and 2. may collect you). Prob George Soule, but Edd Hurt could tell you more about him, and might try Dallas Frazier's The R&B Sessions (D.F. somewhut Hintonesque, but coming more from the country side, while barefoot Hinton heading back to it, dig his live intro bout walking way down the road to get a drink, and, I think, barefoot too, certainly sounds very plausible). Maybe Roky Erickson--"Cold Night For Alligators"? His voice is like Hinton's or Sir Doug's, but so much stronger, more like country-metal, like metal singers are supposed to sound (not that Doug didn't do country-funk-metal, like "Baby, It Just Don't Matter") Also, try Herbie Mann's Memphis Underground, especially the title track and "Chain of Fools," feat. Larry Coryell and Sonny Sharrock ,buzzing in the mud, surrounded by session cats and just enough of Herbie's flute. Also some/most of Link Wray's great mid-70s album, The Link Wray Rumble (on Epic, with notes by Pete Townshend), esp. his cover of Tony Joe's "Backwoods Preacher Man." Bill Withers' early 70s live album (forget the title, but think he only did one live)(see robertchristgau.com for good description of that and other Withers)

dow, Tuesday, 25 November 2008 06:21 (fifteen years ago) link

faster horses:

tipsy mothra, Wednesday, 26 November 2008 06:14 (fifteen years ago) link

three years pass...

Can't stop listening to this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORfoK5Ap0FA

Turangalila, Saturday, 4 August 2012 19:12 (eleven years ago) link

<3 this thread

what are the best jim ford and joe south albums?

the late great, Saturday, 4 August 2012 19:14 (eleven years ago) link

jim ford - harlan county and point of no return

buzza, Saturday, 4 August 2012 19:45 (eleven years ago) link

yeah harlan county is the one i keep hearing about

the late great, Saturday, 4 August 2012 19:47 (eleven years ago) link

reissued recently, right?

i only know "i'm gonna make her love me" but that's all time

the late great, Saturday, 4 August 2012 19:49 (eleven years ago) link

Strongly recommend this comp http://lightintheattic.net/releases/729-country-funk-1969-1975

Turangalila, Saturday, 4 August 2012 22:13 (eleven years ago) link

any joe south record with 'the games people play.'
harlan county by jim ford is great, but i am also partial to bigmouth USA (the unissued paramount album)

one dis leads to another (ian), Saturday, 4 August 2012 22:45 (eleven years ago) link

the barefoot jerry/area code 615 thread makes a good companion to this one tbh, and so does the west coast post-psych ssw country-rock thread

one dis leads to another (ian), Saturday, 4 August 2012 22:48 (eleven years ago) link

i think a lot of the unissued paramount and unissued capitol stuff appears on the point of no return record, but maybe different takes/mixes

buzza, Saturday, 4 August 2012 23:03 (eleven years ago) link

this is a great record too --
http://skydogselysium.blogspot.com/2010/02/donnie-fritts-prone-to-lean-1974.html

one dis leads to another (ian), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 15:15 (eleven years ago) link

eight months pass...

Decades and decades of country rap

http://www.spin.com/articles/rap-country-uncomfortable-history-accidental-racist/

xhuxk, Tuesday, 30 April 2013 17:28 (eleven years ago) link

seven months pass...

i'm gonna go ahead and leave this here since i didn't know where else to put it (other than the thread entitled "mixes you make while drunk"). some late night swampy country bizness i put together last night, all 45s.

https://soundcloud.com/ianhetzner/made-to-roam

(is there a way to embed soundcloud round here?)

1. tommy hubbard - take a look at my love
2. gene wyatt & dawn glass - go together
3. jim ford - big mouth, usa
4. jamey ryan - holy cow
5. pat lundy - only mama that'll walk the line
6. ola louise - blues stay away from me
7. gosdin bros. - there must be a someone (i can turn to)
8. werly fairburn - that's just how bad it is
9. bruce channel - the web
10. larry collins - outcast
11. jewell ausbon - family reunion
12. rob galbraith - maggie mcghee, the preacher's daughter
13. j. david sloan - one toke over the line
14. johnny roberts - i was made to roam
15. shuggy ray smith - pappa & santa claus

moe handy, Sunday, 22 December 2013 01:57 (ten years ago) link

also, i would love to hear an entire mix of "harper valley p.t.a." / "ode to billie joe" rip offs. i only put one in here but there must be dozens. i mean, shit, jeannie c. riley and bobbie gentry made a handful of 'em themselves.

moe handy, Sunday, 22 December 2013 01:59 (ten years ago) link

That's awesome moe! I was thinking of reviving this thread this week to share my spotify playlist but I wanted to curate it a little bit more... anyhow here's how it goes so far... there's a bit of swamp rock and blues thrown in for good measure so it's not strictly country funk but at least a fourth of them qualify as such:

http://open.spotify.com/user/moteldemoka/playlist/1A5LQOLAUa3TK6ChYLGeRw

Moka, Sunday, 22 December 2013 07:37 (ten years ago) link

also, i would love to hear an entire mix of "harper valley p.t.a." / "ode to billie joe" rip offs.

There's a comp called Country Soul Sisters on Soul Jazz that has a few of these. Pretty cool overall.

alan watts, he made me hot (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Sunday, 22 December 2013 08:10 (ten years ago) link

There's two, actually. Soul Jazz put out another not long ago.

Mule, Sunday, 22 December 2013 08:47 (ten years ago) link

Aretha's "With Pen In Hand," Dusty's "Son of a Preacher Man," Freda's "Band of Gold," prob sev by Staples Singers/Mavis (incl. some of her recent) all seem to fit theme of this tread. Thanks for the soundcloud, Moe.

dow, Sunday, 22 December 2013 16:17 (ten years ago) link

four months pass...

Remember that country funk compilation from light in the attic? Volume II has arrived!

http://lightintheattic.net/releases/1176-country-funk-volume-ii-1967-1974

Moka, Wednesday, 21 May 2014 18:43 (ten years ago) link

that 1st comp was a good one to have in the car.

tylerw, Wednesday, 21 May 2014 18:46 (ten years ago) link

That first one was good to have anywhere! I've got so much play out that, very excited for a volume II!

djenter the dragon? (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 18:53 (ten years ago) link

Oh cool. The first one was at-work/in-car/at-home entertainment for me for a year or so!

overwhelmed with sweat (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Thursday, 22 May 2014 02:10 (ten years ago) link

six years pass...

recently i discovered that you can "follow" people on spotify, so out of curiosity i looked at who was "following" me. this led to the discovery of a user with many, many playlists (i suspect it's an ilxor), and one playlist in particular focused on "funky country" or something like that caught me eye. i decided to make a companion playlist, with the only rules being that i wouldn't use any of the artists on that playlist, and of course the songs had to be on spotify. this is what i ended up with, following my normal sort of c60 format (leaving room for goofy sound collage / spoken word stuff like you do when you make a tape)

dale hawkins - "LA-memphis-tyler"
terry reid - "things to try"
dan penn - "tearjoint"
billy joe royal - "steal away"
ricky nelson - "sweet mary"
the band - "king harvest"
the meters - "wichita lineman"
skip easterling "i'm your hoochie koochie man"
moby grape - "love song"
dillard & clark - "don't let me down"
joe south - "motherless children"
bob dylan - "country pie"
bonnie raitt - "thank you"
neil young - "are you ready for the country?"
lee michaels - "heighty hi"

p.s. GOTT it's funny that our ILM paths would cross twice today re: dale hawkins !!!

budo jeru, Tuesday, 21 July 2020 02:28 (three years ago) link

lol Dale's the secret thread running through the universe

cool list!

xpost LITA's Country Funk Vol. 2 worth checking, but some tracks too self-congratulatory/novelty in ways more than earned. Lotta hot stuff on this thread, dunno how available now. I posted about ace Ace comps---Cover Me: The Eddie Hinton Songbook, Reggie Young's Guitar Session Star, maybe more---on yonder Sweet Soul Music thread, also see Ace site re their Penn-Oldham and other collections (you might have to add expected favorites in some cases, but they always turn up turnips new to me and welcome)

dow, Tuesday, 21 July 2020 03:28 (three years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJwihdYfyN4

Get Me Bodied (Extended Mix), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 10:39 (three years ago) link

allen toussaint got mentioned once ITT 15 years ago. time to mention him again.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yA-G81xJT3U

andrew m., Tuesday, 21 July 2020 13:51 (three years ago) link

oh god i love that song. "Who's Gonna Help Brother Get Further" is also a fucking jam

that song is like my daily affirmation, and the whole first album gets lots of play these days. i need more of his stuff.

andrew m., Tuesday, 21 July 2020 14:59 (three years ago) link

oops i was thinking of the Lee Dorsey version, but Toussaint did record a cover w/Elvis Costello apparently

hell yeah

Kelly Gordon's Defunked record veers into the corny a fair bit but it has this tune and a great duet w/Bobbie Gentry called Love Took My Heart And Mashed That Sucker Flat.

that's great

budo jeru, Tuesday, 21 July 2020 16:10 (three years ago) link

shuggie track is so good too, really angry with myself that i didn't think of it when i made my mix

budo jeru, Tuesday, 21 July 2020 17:09 (three years ago) link

Listening to this year's Pam Tillis, Looking For A Feeling, on YouTube, and damn if most of it isn't build on country funk, one way or another, though it's always a given, never a retro novelty, as scenes from earlier life ride the present. Cover is her in the orange shower w Oreo & wine.

dow, Wednesday, 22 July 2020 03:00 (three years ago) link

70s Little Richard. Anyone mention him?

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Wednesday, 22 July 2020 08:59 (three years ago) link

Oooh great call. His early-70s version of "I'm So Lonesome I Could Cry" is a fave:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYZW3a9LBf0

turn the jawhatthefuckever on (One Eye Open), Wednesday, 22 July 2020 14:20 (three years ago) link

finally making time to work through the thread and listen to everything, track down recommended comps, etc. so much good stuff here, especially enjoying the two "country got soul" comps that jed mentions in '04

https://www.discogs.com/Various-Country-Got-Soul-Volume-One/release/1747107
https://www.discogs.com/Various-Country-Got-Soul-Volume-Two/release/2165569

haven't seen him mentioned but i feel like tim hardin could really get there sometimes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5D8XmAxTY0

budo jeru, Wednesday, 22 July 2020 16:17 (three years ago) link

wray brothers & co.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enXQE4gsKVs

budo jeru, Wednesday, 22 July 2020 18:38 (three years ago) link

The Tnder Things, "How You Make A Fool"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2s2HEbEyoU

dow, Wednesday, 22 July 2020 22:35 (three years ago) link

Title track of current album, and the single, as it should be: most of the others are headphone growers (but keep growing, especially the arrangements and playing)

dow, Wednesday, 22 July 2020 22:49 (three years ago) link

recently i discovered that you can "follow" people on spotify, so out of curiosity i looked at who was "following" me. this led to the discovery of a user with many, many playlists (i suspect it's an ilxor), and one playlist in particular focused on "funky country" or something like that caught me eye. i decided to make a companion playlist, with the only rules being that i wouldn't use any of the artists on that playlist, and of course the songs had to be on spotify. this is what i ended up with, following my normal sort of c60 format (leaving room for goofy sound collage / spoken word stuff like you do when you make a tape)

dale hawkins - "LA-memphis-tyler"
terry reid - "things to try"
dan penn - "tearjoint"
billy joe royal - "steal away"
ricky nelson - "sweet mary"
the band - "king harvest"
the meters - "wichita lineman"
skip easterling "i'm your hoochie koochie man"
moby grape - "love song"
dillard & clark - "don't let me down"
joe south - "motherless children"
bob dylan - "country pie"
bonnie raitt - "thank you"
neil young - "are you ready for the country?"
lee michaels - "heighty hi"

p.s. GOTT it's funny that our ILM paths would cross twice today re: dale hawkins !!!

― budo jeru

Was it me? I follow a lot of ILM posters but I always have a hard time relating their board nicknames to their spotify profiles.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 23 July 2020 08:03 (three years ago) link

it might no be me but here’s a playlist I’ve used for years now:

https://open.spotify.com/user/moteldemoka/playlist/1A5LQOLAUa3TK6ChYLGeRw

It’s in heavy need of a cleanup though.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 23 July 2020 08:07 (three years ago) link

Here's my equivalent playlist

https://open.spotify.com/playlist/4135h0uHLl7WxL6DdUrjJt?si=nqUk0O0zRjimCgp6XuPt9Q

Julius Caesar Memento Hoodie (bendy), Thursday, 23 July 2020 15:05 (three years ago) link

Remember that country funk compilation from light in the attic? Volume II has arrived!

http://lightintheattic.net/releases/1176-country-funk-volume-ii-1967-1974

― Moka, Wednesday, May 21, 2014 2:43 PM (six years ago) bookmarkflaglink

We need Volume III!

The Mandymoorian (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 23 July 2020 15:43 (three years ago) link


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