she does not. she's actually very nice.
― BATTAGS, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 21:44 (eighteen years ago)
just imagine pipecock's frustration at having a sister who likes GT. that should be enough.
― BATTAGS, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 21:47 (eighteen years ago)
That's a fair critique of the live show, Andy, but what's your take on the album? I feel like most of it is composed of weird elements that aren't supposed to go together (even though it's all nominally pop music), and there's usually at least a dozen different samples in any three-minute chunk of the mix.
― jaymc, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 21:48 (eighteen years ago)
-- BATTAGS, Wednesday, June 18, 2008 4:44 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Link
"actually"
― deej, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 21:49 (eighteen years ago)
I mean, I've heard a lot of terrible mash-ups that are just like slapping two songs together and seeing what happens, but Night Ripper impresses me in part because of how precise it is.
― jaymc, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 21:49 (eighteen years ago)
as for him saying he does them 'live' - i flat-out don't believe it. half the time he was standing on a table on the stage taking his clothes off, or spouting off about how "they" told him he couldn't play Kelly Clarkson, but fuck that bullshit, here it is, IN YOUR FACE "THEM"!
-- BATTAGS, Wednesday, June 18, 2008 4:35 PM (13 minutes ago) Bookmark Link
challops as performance art
fwiw he does let his samples play out much longer when at his shows, but i doubt that's battags' only real reservation w/ him
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 18 June 2008 21:50 (eighteen years ago)
guys don't be batthurt
― some dude, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 21:51 (eighteen years ago)
i'm not Andy, but I guess I'm flattered that you would think so. Even though I am also a writer and I used to do lots of music writing. We do share a last name though.
The album is interesting, but it doesn't gel together enough for me. I think it lacks direction. I'll give him respect for crafting something so dense and intricate, and there are moments I enjoyed but on the whole the album went in one ear and out the other.
let me clarify what i said earlier about liking mashups whose elements aren't supposed to go together, taking that 'Bootylicious' one as an example: Great mashups to me have elements that shouldn't be together but sound *perfect* that way, like if you came into it not knowing either tune, you would think that was how the song was supposed to be.
― BATTAGS, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 21:56 (eighteen years ago)
You've *met* pipecock, right?
i havent, theres just a funny thread on 77 called 'actually' where we talk about how ppl use this word in a backhanded way
― deej, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 22:01 (eighteen years ago)
oh - not meant in that way at all, only wrt pipecock's behavior on ilx...
― BATTAGS, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 22:02 (eighteen years ago)
nah i got what you meant
― deej, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 22:03 (eighteen years ago)
me? I'm just some dude.
-- some dude, Wednesday, June 18, 2008 4:21 PM (51 minutes ago) Bookmark Link
Figured it out, anyway.
― jaymc, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 22:13 (eighteen years ago)
a couple nights ago this kid said to me:
"I'm getting into 'techno' like Girl Talk and shit"
― chinchillas they can fit on gorillas, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 22:15 (eighteen years ago)
aw give catchdubs a break
― and what, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 22:16 (eighteen years ago)
damn dude
― chinchillas they can fit on gorillas, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 22:18 (eighteen years ago)
fwiw i heard about this shit from girl who lives in arkansas
― and what, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 22:18 (eighteen years ago)
...
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 18 June 2008 22:20 (eighteen years ago)
dunno just sayin girl talk seems to have gone all over even country ass bama towns in arkansas sorry pleasant plains
― and what, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 22:22 (eighteen years ago)
lol yeah ethan dont you come in here dissing the south anymore
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 18 June 2008 22:24 (eighteen years ago)
nah i wasn't sure if you were trying to diss him or something
but in any event you are right, he has toured into like every shit hole city in the south (even the one i live in!) and it's pretty cool that he does that imo instead of sticking to seattle/chi/ny/philly/dc/atl etc
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 18 June 2008 22:25 (eighteen years ago)
plus he's big w/ college kids so going to play at the univ of arkansas or w/e makes sense for him
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 18 June 2008 22:26 (eighteen years ago)
-- jaymc, Wednesday, June 18, 2008 6:13 PM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark Link
??
― carne asada, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 22:27 (eighteen years ago)
yeah, don't want any corny-looking white dudes hurting the credibility of the group who made those acclaimed mixtapes with Clinton Sparks
-- some dude, Wednesday, June 18, 2008 4:39 PM (48 minutes ago) Bookmark Link
alex wtf i thought honeymoons were supposed to make ppl un-grouchy
-- J0rdan S., Wednesday, June 18, 2008 4:39 PM (47 minutes ago) Bookmark Link
― deej, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 22:28 (eighteen years ago)
in conclusion, some dude is alex in nyc
tombot spelled it out much more explicitly in that thread you bumped carne
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 18 June 2008 22:29 (eighteen years ago)
oh, now i see. thanks
― carne asada, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 22:32 (eighteen years ago)
in conclusion some dude is a corny looking white dude
― and what, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 22:32 (eighteen years ago)
The Carla Bozulich thread gave it away for me.
― jaymc, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 22:46 (eighteen years ago)
i understand diplo thinks hes not just corny looking ...
― deej, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 23:18 (eighteen years ago)
really feeling this guys aaliyah mash up with oasis. fucking hot ass man.
― Raw Patrick, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 23:45 (eighteen years ago)
so, it's out
― jeff, Thursday, 19 June 2008 15:46 (eighteen years ago)
paid $5
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 19 June 2008 16:03 (eighteen years ago)
Paid $10, which only seemed fair considering how much I loved Night Ripper. I've listened to about half so far, still trying to decide how I feel about it, although the "Ghetto Superstar"/"Autumn Sweater" bit did make me smile on the train this morning. It does seem like he's letting samples play out a little longer (although there are also apparently more of them, too -- not sure how that works).
― jaymc, Thursday, 19 June 2008 16:09 (eighteen years ago)
Maybe this is a stupid question, but is this new album the same kind of thing (which I liked)? A bunch of layered samples of hip hop/AOR/indie traxxx/alternative nation stuff? If so, is there a sample-spotting list?
(x-post - I guess that explains it!)
― Savannah Smiles, Thursday, 19 June 2008 16:11 (eighteen years ago)
he doesnt put out a sample list himself, but there is a really detailed one on the wiki page for his last album, so imagine there will be one for this one pretty soon as well
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 19 June 2008 16:12 (eighteen years ago)
Man, I wish I could edit Wikipedia at work. Someone needs to change En Vogue to Soul II Soul. Plus, some samples aren't on there yet (like Carole King's "It's Too Late" on "Give Me a Beat").
― jaymc, Thursday, 19 June 2008 16:14 (eighteen years ago)
Another stupid question - he doesn't pay to clear these samples, right? (I mean, I guess the label is called Illegal Art and stuff, but - he's got to be on big labels' radars, no?).
― Savannah Smiles, Thursday, 19 June 2008 16:22 (eighteen years ago)
Nope, he doesn't pay.
Also, it's Fleetwood Mac's "Gypsy" instead of "Dreams."
― jaymc, Thursday, 19 June 2008 16:27 (eighteen years ago)
fwiw feed the animals is 12 mins longer than night ripper
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 19 June 2008 16:37 (eighteen years ago)
this is definitely more like his live shows-- samples laid out pretty plainly and played for longer, doesn't seem to have any moments as intricately built up to as the "say it aint so" solo moment on night ripper or even the "laffy taffy" one
in fact he's actually using a lot of the same rap vocals ("throw some d's", "hood nigga", "i get money", "my drink n my 2 step") as when i saw him probably 8 months ago which probably gives you a window into how long he's been working on this
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 19 June 2008 16:45 (eighteen years ago)
and how uninteresting it sounds
― deej, Thursday, 19 June 2008 16:49 (eighteen years ago)
oh shit deej is really bringing it
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 19 June 2008 16:51 (eighteen years ago)
but its not just rap songs from 2 years ago... its rap songs from 2 years ago over alt-rock from 6 years ago!!
― and what, Thursday, 19 June 2008 16:51 (eighteen years ago)
or even the "laffy taffy" one
I was thinking about this exact moment earlier this morning as the kind of thing I missed on the new album. But it also took me a few listens to Night Ripper for it to really gel with me -- in fact, what amazed me about the process of listening to that album over time is how parts that sounded dissonant at first suddenly began to seem like they'd always gone together and I could anticipate each transition.
― jaymc, Thursday, 19 June 2008 16:52 (eighteen years ago)
There's stuff from 2008 on here: "Sexy Can I," "Low," "Lollipop," etc.
― jaymc, Thursday, 19 June 2008 16:54 (eighteen years ago)
diggin in the crates
― deej, Thursday, 19 June 2008 16:55 (eighteen years ago)
is it lollipop over arcade fire or does he go real deep and put it over weezer
― and what, Thursday, 19 June 2008 16:57 (eighteen years ago)
That's not the point, though...? I mean, Girl Talk thinks of what he's doing as a tribute to pop music (he talked recently about all of the "wedding songs" on the new album), and one of the interesting things about listening to Girl Talk is how it recontextualizes songs that everyone already knows. If it was about finding the most obscure samples, it wouldn't have this effect.
― jaymc, Thursday, 19 June 2008 16:59 (eighteen years ago)