Pet Shop Boys: too arch, too calculated
how are these bad things?
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Sunday, 4 November 2007 19:49 (sixteen years ago) link
HITLER was arch and calculated!
― da croupier, Sunday, 4 November 2007 19:50 (sixteen years ago) link
uh...so was Martin Luther King Jr.
what's yr point?
― stephen, Sunday, 4 November 2007 19:53 (sixteen years ago) link
Anthony, correct me if I'm wrong, but I think you've used up your quota of Hitler references for at least a year in the past week alone, no?
― JN$OT, Sunday, 4 November 2007 19:54 (sixteen years ago) link
Depeche: almost all their best moments are ripped off from other bands, such as - New Order: mystical, transcendent, dumb, magical, inexplicably brilliant.
Okay, I'm having trouble parsing this sentence, but... are you saying Depeche Mode, who were a synth pop band years before New Order were (and who make better synth pop than New Order), ripped off New Order?
(NB I am a huge New Order fan.)
― Curt1s Stephens, Sunday, 4 November 2007 20:48 (sixteen years ago) link
AKA, pretty much the most impossible ILM poll, ever.
Not really. New Order handily trounces both with one hand.
― Alex in NYC, Sunday, 4 November 2007 20:51 (sixteen years ago) link
word
― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Sunday, 4 November 2007 20:52 (sixteen years ago) link
are you saying Depeche Mode, who were a synth pop band years before New Order were (and who make better synth pop than New Order), ripped off New Order?
THANK YOU
― stephen, Sunday, 4 November 2007 21:16 (sixteen years ago) link
New Order is a "synth pop band"?
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Sunday, 4 November 2007 21:27 (sixteen years ago) link
They were a synth pop band before they turned into a goth band.
― Tuomas, Sunday, 4 November 2007 22:11 (sixteen years ago) link
i think flood/francois k-era dep-mode ripped off mid-late-80s new order.
― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Sunday, 4 November 2007 22:18 (sixteen years ago) link
I'd rather say Joy Division were a goth band before they turned into a synth band (not synth pop though, wouldn't call them pop with the exception of "True Faith" and maybe a few more singles)
― Geir Hongro, Sunday, 4 November 2007 22:35 (sixteen years ago) link
Flood era Depeche Mode was "Songs Of Faith And Devotion", and that album isn't a Depeche Mode album. Most true and devoted Depeche fans hate that particular album.
― Geir Hongro, Sunday, 4 November 2007 22:36 (sixteen years ago) link
indie dance
― electricsound, Sunday, 4 November 2007 22:38 (sixteen years ago) link
that's you that is.
― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Sunday, 4 November 2007 22:39 (sixteen years ago) link
xxpost
i quite like it!
― grimly fiendish, Sunday, 4 November 2007 22:39 (sixteen years ago) link
THAN YOU MUST NOT BE A TRUE OR DEVOTED DEPECHE MODE FAN
― max, Sunday, 4 November 2007 22:41 (sixteen years ago) link
REAL DEPECHE MODE FANS THINK THE BAND BROKE UP IN 1990
Some true Depeche Mode fans gave up on the band after their U2/NIN wannabe album. But the fact is that already on "Ultra", they had their good old synthpop style back. And they have kept it since.
― Geir Hongro, Sunday, 4 November 2007 22:51 (sixteen years ago) link
New Order were neither.
― Alex in NYC, Sunday, 4 November 2007 23:12 (sixteen years ago) link
Whoops, for some reason I mixed NO and DM there!
― Tuomas, Sunday, 4 November 2007 23:46 (sixteen years ago) link
ah, okay.
― Alex in NYC, Sunday, 4 November 2007 23:50 (sixteen years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.
― ILX System, Monday, 5 November 2007 00:01 (sixteen years ago) link
accurately predicted
― electricsound, Monday, 5 November 2007 00:03 (sixteen years ago) link
hey, not bad! go me.
― grimly fiendish, Monday, 5 November 2007 00:05 (sixteen years ago) link
These results were really quite obvious if you know ILM.
― Tuomas, Monday, 5 November 2007 00:07 (sixteen years ago) link
don't spoil it for me, tuomas.
― grimly fiendish, Monday, 5 November 2007 00:07 (sixteen years ago) link
THIS POLL IS FUCKING ABOUT SYNTH POP:
I've always seen these guys as the 3 giants of synth-pop
― Curt1s Stephens, Monday, 5 November 2007 01:01 (sixteen years ago) link
Which is why I didn't vote for them!!! I love New Order, but while they're great at many things (post-punk/dance) they're not a synth pop band!!!
Can someone please tell me how Depeche Mode ripped off New Order? I'd really love to know!
― Curt1s Stephens, Monday, 5 November 2007 01:04 (sixteen years ago) link
i think maybe this forum should be called "i love questionable music more than depeche mode". stupidest poll results ever.
― pipecock, Monday, 5 November 2007 01:14 (sixteen years ago) link
Yes.Can someone please tell me how Depeche Mode ripped off New Order? I'd really love to know
Once in a while Martin Gore plays twang guitar.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 5 November 2007 01:16 (sixteen years ago) link
-- Tuomas, Sunday, 4 November 2007 23:46 (Yesterday) Bookmark Link
I eagerly await Blue Monday - Tuomas mix
― Mark G, Monday, 5 November 2007 01:18 (sixteen years ago) link
Just seen the results! I didn't know DM got so much love here! I thought it was just Geir plus one!
― Mark G, Monday, 5 November 2007 01:20 (sixteen years ago) link
i think maybe this forum should be called "i love questionable music more than depeche mode". stupidest poll results ever
calm down, dear, it's only a poll.
― grimly fiendish, Monday, 5 November 2007 13:00 (sixteen years ago) link
(also: much roffling at "questionable music". what, is everything that isn't pure DM "degenerate art" or something?)
― grimly fiendish, Monday, 5 November 2007 13:01 (sixteen years ago) link
justice was done.
― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Monday, 5 November 2007 13:07 (sixteen years ago) link
only just noticed this wtfness.
They bestride the land, like colossi of the Roland.
― Neil S, Monday, 5 November 2007 13:13 (sixteen years ago) link
"(also: much roffling at "questionable music". what, is everything that isn't pure DM "degenerate art" or something?)"
i mean, DM are definitely one of my favorite artists, i own more records by them than by any other artist except theo parrish, "violator" is one of my all time favorite albums and has been for many many years. but i dont hold them as anything more than fantastic musicians. New Order are definitely awesome too. but really, the Pet Shop Boys? come on, now. they were not bad but they shouldnt even be in a discussion with depeche mode.
― pipecock, Monday, 5 November 2007 16:50 (sixteen years ago) link
Why not?
― Neil S, Monday, 5 November 2007 16:52 (sixteen years ago) link
any winner in this poll is the right winner
― Curt1s Stephens, Monday, 5 November 2007 16:53 (sixteen years ago) link
xpost to pipecock: guess what? i disagree. and hey, they are, and have been for several hundred posts.
next up: a discussion involving depeche mode, dumpy's rusty nuts and dom's spunk, spread on a boot. because, hey, that's the joy of ILM, as opposed to -- say -- monomaniacal DM fans' private DM-only DM discussion board (DM).
― grimly fiendish, Monday, 5 November 2007 16:53 (sixteen years ago) link
grimly otm. Just because you disagree with the poll results, you shouldn't start saying "the poll is illegitimate".
― Neil S, Monday, 5 November 2007 16:55 (sixteen years ago) link
sorry, i don't see what's so WTF about calling new order a synth pop band. a lot of their music (sure, not all), even their best known stuff, could be described that way
― Mark Clemente, Monday, 5 November 2007 17:02 (sixteen years ago) link
xposts
yep, it was a generalization guys; sorry to get yr panties in a wad
― stephen, Monday, 5 November 2007 17:05 (sixteen years ago) link
This is completely correct. The only thing I dislike about this poll is the outright/implied hatred expressed towards Depeche Mode. I understand why some people want to leave their mopey teen years behind but DM expresses so much of that angst so well and in a manner far more adult than it should be expressed that I don't understand how people don't enjoy them. (I also don't understand how people can hate the singing, especially from Violator onwards, but that's a completely different thing.)
― HI DERE, Monday, 5 November 2007 17:13 (sixteen years ago) link
"xpost to pipecock: guess what? i disagree. and hey, they are, and have been for several hundred posts.
next up: a discussion involving depeche mode, dumpy's rusty nuts and dom's spunk, spread on a boot. because, hey, that's the joy of ILM, as opposed to -- say -- monomaniacal DM fans' private DM-only DM discussion board (DM)."
again, i do not put DM up on a pedestal or anything like that. but comparing them to PSB is like comparing John Coltrane to Kenny G. sure theyre both jazz sax players, but to compare them in any way is pretty stupid.
― pipecock, Monday, 5 November 2007 20:12 (sixteen years ago) link
so which one is Kenny G, o enlightened one?
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 5 November 2007 20:16 (sixteen years ago) link