Taylor Swift - Speak Now (Oct 2010) - hype, anticipation &c

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"mean" is kind of bad :/

it definitely shouldn't have been released ahead of the album

lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Tuesday, 19 October 2010 13:56 (fifteen years ago)

(we didn't seem to cover "back to december" much though? that is incredible.)

lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Tuesday, 19 October 2010 13:57 (fifteen years ago)

I really like 'Mean'. Sorta in the 'Tell Me Why' vein, which I thought was an underrated album track. She has a carefree way with those kinds of jovial country melodies.

abcfsk, Tuesday, 19 October 2010 14:10 (fifteen years ago)

at this point I'm imposing a moratorium on pre-released tracks so I can get a proper 'album feel' when it finally comes out

dayo, Tuesday, 19 October 2010 14:15 (fifteen years ago)

Taylor did Mine on the Great British Songbook today: http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p00bprwq
Coldplay cover: http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p00bprvs

abcfsk, Wednesday, 20 October 2010 21:11 (fifteen years ago)

leaked.

prolego, Friday, 22 October 2010 19:25 (fifteen years ago)

ok i'm listening - the leak seems to be an international deluxe edition, what the shit is this version of "mine"?? "pop versions" ruin everything

lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Friday, 22 October 2010 20:16 (fifteen years ago)

Pop versions are true evil -- it doesn't even seem like plausible good business to make them less distinctive..??

But doesn't the deluxe edition also feature US versions of those singles as bonus tracks?

abcfsk, Friday, 22 October 2010 20:19 (fifteen years ago)

i presume the US version of the album wouldn't feature "US versions" as bonus tracks!

lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Friday, 22 October 2010 20:24 (fifteen years ago)

oh god "back to december" has been fucked up as well

lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Friday, 22 October 2010 20:25 (fifteen years ago)

oh man, didn't realize this is being released this Tuesday!

markers, Friday, 22 October 2010 20:25 (fifteen years ago)

xp No, the deluxe european version... isn't that what you've got? All the proposed singles (three of them).

--
'Dear John' is on some next level.

abcfsk, Friday, 22 October 2010 20:26 (fifteen years ago)

yeah i presume the deluxe european edition is what's leaked? if the US version's leaked too do tell me so i can listen to that instead

lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Friday, 22 October 2010 20:27 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah, I've got one with the pop versions on 'disc 1' and the US versions on disc 2 along with some acoustic tracks and bonus tunes.

abcfsk, Friday, 22 October 2010 20:28 (fifteen years ago)

they've put handclaps on "speak now"

whyyyyyyyyyyyyy

lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Friday, 22 October 2010 20:30 (fifteen years ago)

Terrible buzzing synth in the "international" version of "Mine" inspires xenophobia in me forever, God bless the USA.

Brad Nelson (BradNelson), Friday, 22 October 2010 20:46 (fifteen years ago)

lol @ "no amount of vintage dresses gives you dignity"

abcfsk, Friday, 22 October 2010 20:48 (fifteen years ago)

i've just moved the original versions onto Disc 1, and removed the awful Euro mix versions. I hate how they think people outside the US are unable to listen to banjos are steel guitars.

prolego, Friday, 22 October 2010 20:48 (fifteen years ago)

*and.

wow @ dear john.

prolego, Friday, 22 October 2010 20:56 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah holy fuck.

Brad Nelson (BradNelson), Friday, 22 October 2010 21:05 (fifteen years ago)

"dear john" is amazing yeah

"never grow up" is...what is going on in that song o_0

lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Friday, 22 October 2010 21:06 (fifteen years ago)

the album's definitely a LOT denser than she's done before

lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Friday, 22 October 2010 21:07 (fifteen years ago)

You come out the other side of that song really exhausted and tore up but softly euphoric. It's a motherfucker.

Brad Nelson (BradNelson), Friday, 22 October 2010 21:08 (fifteen years ago)

xpost, I was talking about "Dear John"

Brad Nelson (BradNelson), Friday, 22 October 2010 21:09 (fifteen years ago)

Ann Powers on "Mean" -- and Taylor in general:

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/music_blog/2010/10/taylor-swift-lessons-in-being-mean.html

Ned Raggett, Friday, 22 October 2010 21:09 (fifteen years ago)

Also "Mean" is fucking awesome in the context of the record. Do you still dislike it, lex?

Brad Nelson (BradNelson), Friday, 22 October 2010 21:09 (fifteen years ago)

yes that powers piece is really great

do people seriously think "mean" is about rock critics though? i mean really. she couldn't situate it more obviously in her pre-fame days. hey egomaniac critics, you're almost certainly not the only people to have told taylor swift she can't sing in her life.

lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Friday, 22 October 2010 21:12 (fifteen years ago)

and a second listen to "mean" didn't warm me up to it, it's just so gauche

lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Friday, 22 October 2010 21:13 (fifteen years ago)

Oh my god "Enchanted."

Hard not to read synth-pop into the keyboard work here but it sure kills me.

Brad Nelson (BradNelson), Friday, 22 October 2010 21:22 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah Mean is a pretty perfect fit in this context and sound-wise it breaks up a couple of heavier tunes really nicely. I think it's too successfully humorous to be gauche.

abcfsk, Friday, 22 October 2010 21:23 (fifteen years ago)

this album feels a lot less country than her previous work.

prolego, Friday, 22 October 2010 21:25 (fifteen years ago)

All right, this record's a little long. Which is fine, I'm just emotionally spent after every other song.

Brad Nelson (BradNelson), Friday, 22 October 2010 21:26 (fifteen years ago)

Love how effectively she uses breaks, pauses in 'Last Kiss'. Whatever your position, you can't say this is a Fearless retread, that she makes use of the same tricks.

abcfsk, Friday, 22 October 2010 21:56 (fifteen years ago)

so which of these songs are the terrible non-US ones? "mine" & what else?

J0rdan S., Saturday, 23 October 2010 07:08 (fifteen years ago)

back to december & the story of us.

so i guess they want to make them the singles.

prolego, Saturday, 23 October 2010 07:18 (fifteen years ago)

'Dear John' is on some next level.

OFL, this is her best album.

raging hetero lifechill (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 23 October 2010 12:16 (fifteen years ago)

I thought of the Corrs' great "Breathless" upon hearing the intro to "The Story of Us."

raging hetero lifechill (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 23 October 2010 12:33 (fifteen years ago)

I agree that "Dear John" is a pretty great point of maturation, but the lyrics are incredibly cliché.

"Mean" is the standout for me after a couple listens--glad to hear her stick to her roots when she could have made a Kelly Clarkson album. Without a doubt, this is an excellent record, and maybe her best. Certainly not a disappointment.

Indexed, Saturday, 23 October 2010 14:10 (fifteen years ago)

"sparks fly" is a banger

J0rdan S., Saturday, 23 October 2010 18:15 (fifteen years ago)

firing this up now, kinda excited

The Saga of the Unkillable Mr. Poppins (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 23 October 2010 21:06 (fifteen years ago)

mine still sucks
sparks fly is nice
Back to December is great!

The Saga of the Unkillable Mr. Poppins (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 23 October 2010 21:14 (fifteen years ago)

wow back to december is really great

The Saga of the Unkillable Mr. Poppins (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 23 October 2010 21:21 (fifteen years ago)

so, so in love with "enchanted".

prolego, Saturday, 23 October 2010 22:21 (fifteen years ago)

swag me out

http://i54.tinypic.com/qyzsyc.jpg

J0rdan S., Saturday, 23 October 2010 22:40 (fifteen years ago)

fucker! How'd you get it?

raging hetero lifechill (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 23 October 2010 22:41 (fifteen years ago)

ha, i don't actually have it :(

that's my record store employee friend's copy

J0rdan S., Saturday, 23 October 2010 22:43 (fifteen years ago)

Took me a while to notice the banjos in 'Story of Us'.

abcfsk, Saturday, 23 October 2010 22:56 (fifteen years ago)

they think people outside the US are unable to listen to banjos

Bangos are not sexy.

_Rudipherous_, Saturday, 23 October 2010 23:45 (fifteen years ago)

record of the year! luv this 4eva!!

mo radalj, Saturday, 23 October 2010 23:50 (fifteen years ago)

"Back to December" and "Dear John" are both jawdropping, perhaps her best attempts at ballads yet (the latter in particular being like a much much better version of "White Horse" - as a general rule she is so much better working in specifics rather than archetypes).

"Back to December" in particular though is just... A++ songwriting. Like (and it may be counter-productive to break it down) the shift between "I go back to December..." and "I'd go back to December" is so subtle and yet so important to the narrative arc of the song, and she's so good at picking up on things like that.

Tim F, Sunday, 24 October 2010 21:34 (fifteen years ago)


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