classic Wu-Tang solo run poll

without further bs "clarification" i.e. backpedaling xp

Seriously your posts are like that throbbing vein in Uma Thurman's skull in Kill Bill. Getting this worked up about it can't be good for you health.

Also is the SLEEP THAT'S WHERE I AM A VIKING thread funny or depressing? Debating whether or not I want to read it now?

― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Friday, October 15, 2010 2:41 PM (48 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

its super boring but i play a smaller role

"DATED... that's where I'm a viking at music"

without further bs "clarification" i.e. backpedaling xp

― drawl the whine (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Friday, October 15, 2010 2:44 PM (34 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

post a single SINGLE example of 'backpedaling'

"DATED... that's where I'm a viking at music"

― gr80 antebellum (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, October 15, 2010 2:45 PM (6 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

'dated' can only be pejorative to hack music critics who think its a word whose meaning is self-evident rather than open up other questions

'of course it could ONLY mean pejorative!'

it was pointed out to you upthread, you have a long history of ignoring it when your backpedaling is cited and then waiting until the thread is 5000 posts of everybody telling you you're wrong and then going "prove it!" you reread the thread, your backpedaling is clear to EVERYBODY EXCEPT YOU.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y176/edwardiii/managainsttheworld.gif

oh my god dude you are ridiculous

yeah go on thinking I & every fucking body who points out that you move the goalposts every goddamn time somebody refutes you is just being mean to you

yes its our fault for not having our minds open to the wondrous splendor that is language instead of you not knowing what words mean

but enjoy your self-manufactured delusions of persecution -- they're hard-won!

oh my god you & whiney are the biggest assholes on earth

we can't have nice things

keep calling me a hack too, it's really adorable coming from you

How many threads like these where it's everybody vs. deej have there been? Quite a few if I recall correctly. In your mind, deej, is this some Rubicon level conspiracy shit?

POST RIGHT NOW. ONE. EXAMPLE. OF. BACKPEDALING

rearead the thread yourself, I did it earlier and you ignored it because it was inconvenient for you.

hey y'all

seriously let's just leave this and chill

hey! listen to "lung collapsing lyrics" by percee p and ekim instead.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RHbeDLPwsg

If you seriously cannot see why the pejorative connotation of "dated" is implied when used to expound upon why something is "corny", I don't think this argument will ever end.

btw there's backpedalling right at the beginning of this argument when you pronounce GZA's rhymes to be corny and, when people go "wha-?" you then go "oh but I like them!"

Is this thread going to end with a spinning top? Because that would blow my mind.

rearead the thread yourself, I did it earlier and you ignored it because it was inconvenient for you.

― drawl the whine (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Friday, October 15, 2010 2:52 PM (59 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

or i missed it because it doesnt exist / im arguing with eight people while you're just beating up on one

Or how about this Prodigy remix of Meth- great or big beat nonsense?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uivw43LOwKo

http://i51.tinypic.com/2ex58ci.jpg

btw there's backpedalling right at the beginning of this argument when you pronounce GZA's rhymes to be corny and, when people go "wha-?" you then go "oh but I like them!"

― GLEERILLAZ! (HI DERE), Friday, October 15, 2010 2:53 PM (43 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

dog ive posted on ilx before about how i like liquid swords. ive always liked liquid swords, & have never said otherwise. i do think some lyrics on his album are corny. why is that contradictory or backpedaling?? thats an absurd standard to hold someone to

i think that meth song is dated and corny... and that means TOTALLY STUPID-FRESH from the neighborhood i come from in Finland

ITS IMPOSSIBLE -- HOW COULD HE LIKE LIQUID SWORDS AND SOMEHOW FIND SOMETHING BAD TO SAY ABOUT IT

Is this thread going to end with a spinning top? Because that would blow my mind.

more like

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y176/edwardiii/useless_device.gif

"im arguing with eight people while you're just beating up on one"

Funny that, ain't it.

deej, could you not type in all caps, it's really annoying

i think that meth song is dated and corny... and that means TOTALLY STUPID-FRESH from the neighborhood i come from in Finland

― gr80 antebellum (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, October 15, 2010 2:56 PM (11 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

you are the worst at mixed-meme style posting

deej, could you not type in all caps, it's really annoying

― gr80 antebellum (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, October 15, 2010 2:57 PM (8 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i assume u are posting this w some self awareness

yes

mixed-meme style is so dated

Is this thread going to end with a spinning top? Because that would blow my mind.

more like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWyEc7FAMTg

You do similar things all throughout the argument where you make a pronouncement ("GZA's metaphors make the street vibe he's going for incoherent") and then backing off or significantly altering the statement when challenged (others: "uh, GZA was just as much about wordplay as he was about being from the streets; that was an integral part of the persona and the lyrical structure that made him unique and you can't divorce one from the other" you: "oh I know!")

The real problem, as I will say again, is that you are using sledgehammer rhetoric to make needlepoint observations. If people are arguing against exaggerated caricatures of your actual points, it's because YOU ARE EXAGGERATING THEM.

More Meth sampling goodness

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2KZoWLot0g

guys im 100% right about dated. some fashions are dated & become cool again because they look dated. dated is a pejorative only to a degree. 'dated' is all about context. how can you not see that? wood paneling is 'dated' but if you like a 70s look you can like wood paneling. this isnt hard to comprehend

haha deej at what point could you possibly ever thing maybe it's not worth it to keep this up

If you seriously cannot see why the pejorative connotation of "dated" is implied when used to expound upon why something is "corny", I don't think this argument will ever end.

maybe if I just say that by itself, you will actually read it

i mean, i still like the album. like whiney said a lot of that stuff, esp 'feminine like sandals!!!' is still charming in its way. but yeah GZA's style is super dated sounding relative to the rest (which makes sense, hes the oldest dude in the clan right?)

― j. sargent & lil k3v (deej), Wednesday, October 13, 2010 9:39 AM (2 days ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

it's super awesome like bellbottoms

OB4CL, duh.

it's so gloriously of its time that's SUPER of its time

"haha deej at what point could you possibly ever thing maybe it's not worth it to keep this up"

Never! That's what makes him deej!

Really the only issue I have with that post is that, after listening to Tical for two days straight, I don't really see how GZA is any more dated than anyone else listed in this poll.

You do similar things all throughout the argument where you make a pronouncement ("GZA's metaphors make the street vibe he's going for incoherent") and then backing off or significantly altering the statement when challenged (others: "uh, GZA was just as much about wordplay as he was about being from the streets; that was an integral part of the persona and the lyrical structure that made him unique and you can't divorce one from the other" you: "oh I know!")

The real problem, as I will say again, is that you are using sledgehammer rhetoric to make needlepoint observations. If people are arguing against exaggerated caricatures of your actual points, it's because YOU ARE EXAGGERATING THEM.

― GLEERILLAZ! (HI DERE), Friday, October 15, 2010 2:58 PM (32 seconds ago) Bookmark

this is a tool ppl use on ilx all the time! moonship does this kind of thing a lot & it makes dance threads more interesting. like i said upthread (for the 10th time) this is not an alien tactic of discussion for music on ilx. why is it a surprise to you?

more specific to that example: gza's metaphors dont make the street vibe 'incoherent,' i just said that by modern standards they undercut it somewhat. yes hes going for lyrical x street, but when the lyrical outbalances, it doesnt sound as effective. by modern standards, raekwon balanced that better

is that clear now? does that really sound like im 'doubling back' or can you understand my point?

I understood your point yesterday.

Please see again the "we aren't stupid, stupid" post.

When moonship does it you don't complain is such a weird argument to make...