classic Wu-Tang solo run poll

But you are dead wrong about this making anything sound "dated."

except for this. i just dont think theres something 'wrong' w that ...

So you pointed out that something sounded "dated" w/o knowing and/or caring that most people are gonna perceive the word "dated" as a pejorative term?

this is only 'personal' to the extent that youre being a huge dick, right now, in this thread. im not holding a grudge about something or w/e else you imagine to be going on.

lol dude you think everybody who disagrees with you "has it out for you!" that's like, established fact

xpost

i mean a+ trolling if that's true. game recognize game.

lol dude you think everybody who disagrees with you "has it out for you!" that's like, established fact

― drawl the whine (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Friday, October 15, 2010 2:06 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

naw just HI DERE aka Dan (that incredibly smart mod who could totally pull all the women if he wasn't happily married) pretty much
u like to disagree w/ me but i dont think u have it 'out for me'

Dan doesn't have it out for you he just disagrees with you a lot, deej

that was me calling you an asshole for typing out hi dere's name btw

don't be an asshole

government names 2.0

deej if Dan had it out for you you would've been banned by now

^ real talk

deej you should consider being a more mellow agreeable person because jesus you suck at arguing

http://www.ejphoto.com/images_of_the_month/CO_MountainGoat08.jpg OTM

So you pointed out that something sounded "dated" w/o knowing and/or caring that most people are gonna perceive the word "dated" as a pejorative term?

― gr80 antebellum (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, October 15, 2010 2:06 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i wasnt really considering your biases w/r/t 'dated' when i used it imo accurately

also I don't "like to disagree w/you" - I think you do a poor job of sorting out your personal issues w/r/t why you like what you like, and try to frame things in aesthetic instead of personal terms when it's clear as crystal that 1) responses to music are extremely personal in the first place and 2) your own responses to music - your need for music that's current to be vital, specifically - are as tied to things about how you regard yourself as they are to some abstract aesthetic of how the music functions, and that makes me say "where the fuck does that come from?" when you start asserting personal reactions as general principles working within the historical context of rap

acceptable alternatives to calling dan out by name

HI DERE
d4n p3rry
triple-cocked hellrider of the apocalypse

oh yeesh he posted as his full name for years that wasnt a 'gets heated' thing

also mods plz edit both of our names from this thread

lol, my biases regarding the actual definitions of words?

also I don't "like to disagree w/you" - I think you do a poor job of sorting out your personal issues w/r/t why you like what you like, and try to frame things in aesthetic instead of personal terms when it's clear as crystal that 1) responses to music are extremely personal in the first place and 2) your own responses to music - your need for music that's current to be vital, specifically - are as tied to things about how you regard yourself as they are to some abstract aesthetic of how the music functions, and that makes me say "where the fuck does that come from?" when you start asserting personal reactions as general principles working within the historical context of rap

― drawl the whine (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Friday, October 15, 2010 2:14 PM (11 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

youre going to have to unpack this further

amon you gotta admit the total facemelting splendor of that animal

don't even mind it being posted because it makes my day to see something so beautiful.

lol, my biases regarding the actual definitions of words?

― gr80 antebellum (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, October 15, 2010 2:15 PM (22 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

really, 'pejorative' is a part of the definition?

I prefer "triple-cocked hellrider of the apocalypse"

1
: provided with a date <a dated document>
2
: outmoded, old-fashioned <dated formalities>

— dat·ed·ly adverb
— dat·ed·ness noun

Examples of DATED

1. The band's music sounds dated now.
2. The information was quite dated and no longer useful.

:D THOSE ARE POSITIVE THINGS! :D

youre going to have to unpack this further

lol I know but I have been writing other stuff all day and my fingers are too sore to type out bigger grafs

:D THOSE ARE POSITIVE THINGS! :D

― gr80 antebellum (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, October 15, 2010 2:17 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

they absolutely can be?

do i really have to continue to argue what "dated" means or can I safely assume everyone has my back on this?

Definition of OUTMODED
1
: not being in style
2
: no longer acceptable, current, or usable <outmoded customs>

Examples of DATED

1. The band's music sounds dated now.
2. The information was quite dated and no longer useful.

^ btw these examples are straight from merriam-webster

dated -- took out to a restaurant where a waiter sang Beatles songs

"I dated this girl who wouldn't shut up about the Beatles."

The band's music sounds dated now. It's awesome!

whiney isnt chillwave supposed to sound 'dated'? like thats part of the appeal? same w/ nu disco? 'dated' is a qualitative thing

I mean, as a writer, you should kind of know what the words you use mean.

All of which is kind of a smokescreen anyway since you used the decidedly value-unneutral word "corny" to describe the GZA metaphor that touched off this whole argument.

i mean, when it comes to listening to gza i DO have some negative associations w/ how it sounds 'dated' ... so obv it can mean that & in my case does. that doesnt mean u cant appreciate it while admitting it sounds v of its time

& my last post unintentionally addresses the xp

oh my god, deej, you have officially entered a level of retardedness that it's not even fun to argue with you and now just sad

whiney isnt chillwave supposed to sound 'dated'? like thats part of the appeal? same w/ nu disco? 'dated' is a qualitative thing

the word you're looking for here is "retro"

ret·ro
adj \ˈre-(ˌ)trō\
Definition of RETRO
: relating to, reviving, or being the styles and especially the fashions of the past : fashionably nostalgic or old-fashioned

"when i say this GZA song is corny, i mean it's good like delicious candy corn!"

candy corn is not delicious

deej, man to man, one thing you need to learn to do in arguments is go "maybe you're right"

three words that would go a long way toward lowering your b/p

and your s/b

candy corn is fucking awesome in small doses

deej is on some

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/aa2umu1vILI/0.jpg

maybe if you shoot it up, ingesting by mouth not recommended

xp

i dont think you guys are right!! do i need to repost this AGAIN

i think a basic misunderstanding here:

1. i think, objectively, in a general sense, rapping has shifted towards more nuanced & personality-driven personas than it was in the run dmc era, or the juice crew era that gza came out of.

2. i think SUBJECTIVELY, that as a result i tend to prefer artists who at some level anticipated these changes & had fully developed personas -- by 'fully developed,' i mean that everything-- flow, lyrics, personality, vocal tone, style of delivery, conceptual approach to songs & albums, etc -- fit with who they 'were'. m@tt knows what im getting at here, even if his bias is more towards growing up when this stuff was brand new & therefor repping for it harder than i would.

man there is actually a good discussion here in between all the fighting and it kinda bums me out

deej honestly man i respect your opinions abt music a lot but i do thing lately you seem to feel like ostracized and this is sort of resulting in you acting like a chain chomp from mario bros when you feel attacked.

XD

aka,

1] objectively, gza's style is dated
2] subjectively, that sounds 'corny' to me -- not that gza is corny overall, but relative to raekwon

"personality-driven personas"