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Skipped out at 2:15PM EST here in Boston USA and all three new reissues were already *sold out* at the nearby location of a fairly respectable and sizable local chain. I am somewhat amazed by that. But can't say I am disappointed to have to make yet another trip to the record store.

― BlastsOfStatic (BlastsofStatic), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 18:37 (twenty-one years ago)

so i am going over what rare stuff i already have and think ill go with pornography but man i wish i had the $$ for all of them

― kephm (kephm), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 18:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Ahh just finished listening to the Faith stuff. Nothing mind-blowing on the 2nd disc but it's interesting to see how the album could have taken a very different direction. The unreleased songs would have fitted nicely on say The Top. Charlotte Sometimes must have been an afterthought cuz it sounds as muffled as it did on Standing on the Beach. Part of the charm, I guess...

― Baaderonixxxorzh (Fabfunk), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 19:27 (twenty-one years ago)

GROUSEGRIPE. Just a couple more hours...

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 19:41 (twenty-one years ago)

OMGWTF - the demo of The Hanging Garden is the best thing ever

― Baaderonixxxorzh (Fabfunk), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 20:10 (twenty-one years ago)

*dances about in frustration*

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 20:10 (twenty-one years ago)

It has suddenly danwed on me that IdealCopy is shipping these to me and I won't get them for another week. BASTARDS.

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 20:19 (twenty-one years ago)

See, there's a reason I'm just going to store, slight extra cost be damned.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 20:28 (twenty-one years ago)

all the reissues are $18.97 each plus free shipping at Deep Discount CD .

― don weiner, Tuesday, 26 April 2005 20:36 (twenty-one years ago)

They a spinoff of DeepDiscount DVD? Or vice versa? Not bad, it has to be said (but what's tax I wonder).

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 20:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, but do the give you a NEAT POSTER???

(Also, when did Rob Thomas turn into Sinead O'Connor?????)

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 20:40 (twenty-one years ago)

The few, the proud, the bald.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 20:46 (twenty-one years ago)

so how does that version of forever sound, compared to the one on curiosity? and all mine, as well, if it sounds different?

― ronny longjohns (ronny longjohns), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 00:50 (twenty-one years ago)

YES THEY BELONG TO MEEEEEE

Going to listen to these one a night. 17 Seconds sounds really grand with this remaster, I must say. Into the bonus disc now -- hearing the Cult Hero songs with such crispness is quite a treat.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 03:00 (twenty-one years ago)

"Speaking of Associates: reissue of original Affectionate Punch due in August"

this is the greatest news of the year!

― Marco Damiani (Marco D.), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 05:14 (twenty-one years ago)

It's another version of Forever (from 81 whereas the Curiosity one is from 84). It's OK as such but I prefer later versions
All Mine sounds pretty luch the same. Most of the live cuts on the Faith reissue are also taken from Curiosity.

― Baaderonixxxorzh (Fabfunk), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 09:29 (twenty-one years ago)

argh!

*runs to amazon*

― CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 09:38 (twenty-one years ago)

thanks baaderoni :)

― ronny longjohns (ronny longjohns), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 14:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Ah, the giddy pleasure of recognizing the foundations of Let's Go to Bed, under layers of Porn guitars, on the last track of the 2nd disc...

― Baaderonixxxorzh (Fabfunk), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 14:18 (twenty-one years ago)

I like how the booklets show the Transformation Of The Look over those years...the lipstick appears...

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 14:20 (twenty-one years ago)

See, not all that many of the Disc 2 tracks jump out at me and say "you must listen to me immediately or your full understanding of your favourite band EVAH will be damaged..."

If I were to buy one of the three albums first, I'd go for Seventeen Seconds simply because it's, umm, my favourite Cure album; but the extras don't look all that. Details please, and a compare-and-contrast would also be handy!

― CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 14:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Have I mentioned that I hate all of you? (That poster better be fucking magical.)

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 14:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, Faith and Porn extras are both divided in demos/unreleased songs/live stuff.
Comparison and contrast:
1-live stuff, I'd take Porn since as noted above most of the live cuts on Faith were on Curiosity. Plus you get All Mine, which is pretty much urgent and key
2-demos, nothing too special, EXCEPT the psychedelic Primary and a slowed down Hanging Garden, which are both must haves.
3-unreleased songs, pleasant but average goth fare on Porn, Top-like fun extravaganza on Faith

concluding remarks: Carnage Visors

― Baaderonixxxorzh (Fabfunk), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 14:30 (twenty-one years ago)

The MAGICK poster!!

ihttp://idealcopy.american-data.net//Merchant2/graphics/00000001/large/MUCure

― Baaderonixxxorzh (Fabfunk), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 14:34 (twenty-one years ago)

err, ihttp://idealcopy.american-data.net//Merchant2/graphics/00000001/large/MUCure

― Baaderonixxxorzh (Fabfunk), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 14:34 (twenty-one years ago)

ok, me shut up now, yes?

― Baaderonixxxorzh (Fabfunk), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 14:35 (twenty-one years ago)

haha yeah, having Carnage Visors on CD for the first time almost swings the pendulum decisively towards Faith on its own!

― CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 14:36 (twenty-one years ago)

is this worth getting, as an import to the uk?

http://idealcopy.american-data.net/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=IC&Product_Code=MU-CURE-3PACK-01

― CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 14:39 (twenty-one years ago)

I enjoy the 17 Seconds extras without immediately thinking 'revelation' but a number of them are perfectly fine treats -- the Cult Hero tracks of course (including the live versions!), but the alternate "Three" mix is enjoyable and the live in France tracks good. Sadly, by Smith's own admission, what would have been possibly killer demos -- the original solo-at-home demos for a number of the songs, recorded straight after coming off the Cure/Banshees double-act tour -- have been lost. :-(

I've been enjoying all the liner note info with stuff I'd either missed or never knew, such as that info. For instance, Smith says the reason why "The Final Sound" segues into "A Forest" that way is because while it was supposed to be a long instrumental, the tape ran out and Mike Hedges didn't tell them that because they were on such a tight budget they couldn't afford an extra one! Sounds great of course, I love happy accidents.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 14:41 (twenty-one years ago)

i think this is what Baaderonixxxorzh was trying to post:

http://idealcopy.american-data.net//Merchant2/graphics/00000001/large/MUCure-3Pack01.jpg

if that's the actual poster, it's rub.

― CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 14:44 (twenty-one years ago)

ARGH THAT IS PRECISELY THE PACKAGE I AM WAITING FOR "IDEALCOPY" MY ASS MORE LIKE "TORTUREYOUWITHSLOWNESSCOPY"

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 14:44 (twenty-one years ago)

about a year ago i went through the trouble of recording my carnage visors and curiosity cassettes onto CD's. oh well...

― ronny longjohns (ronny longjohns), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 14:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Er, should I mention I just started listening to 17 Seconds again here at work...?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 14:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, I think I had already had something very similar to this when I used to hang long boxes on my bedroom walls...

― Baaderonixxxorzh (Fabfunk), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 14:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Hahah, uh oh, 1989 Ned to thread on that score...

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 14:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Mind you, at least you could hang some longboxes up as opposed to, I dunno, those horrible plastic bubble things...

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 14:49 (twenty-one years ago)

oooh, that deepdiscountcd link above is tempting. my local tower has these for approx $28 (incl tax) which is just ridiculous.

it seems to me that the big ilm cure heads really dig these so far...i still have to ask, are the liner notes, remastering, and extra material really worth it?

― tricky (disco stu), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 16:14 (twenty-one years ago)

i should add that 17 secs and faith are among my fave cure albums.

― tricky (disco stu), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 16:16 (twenty-one years ago)

I'd say it's totally worth it, but I'm that way.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 16:21 (twenty-one years ago)

i knew you would say that, ned!

i have to say that i am glad they are digipaks.

― tricky (disco stu), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 16:35 (twenty-one years ago)

In relistening to the 17 bonus songs now they're already starting to nestle in stronger. I especially love the crowd cheering "FRANK-IE!" at the end of the Cult Hero live cuts.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 16:36 (twenty-one years ago)

i think i am most curious about the demos especially after reading the comments about the faith ones above. cult hero and "carnage visors" on cd are good things too. my copy of that curiousity tape has gone the way of, well, tape as well. hm. is any of the stuff on these reissues redundant with join the dots? i like to watch the robert smith image trajectory too (does that ever sound nerdy). the hair began at the end of faith didn't it? my memory is a bit fuzzy...

― tricky (disco stu), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 16:45 (twenty-one years ago)

is any of the stuff on these reissues redundant with join the dots?

Nope -- they've said since the start that Join the Dots would not be replicated on the reissues and so far that's true. I am wondering how they'll handle the Japanese Whispers tracks, though.

I should also note (assuming it hasn't been already) if it hasn't been already that the live version of "Faith" on the second disc of that album is in fact the one from the 12" of "Charlotte Sometimes," which wasn't on JtD and so finally has resurfaced.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 16:47 (twenty-one years ago)

THE CURE: Pornography (Deluxe Edition With Bonus CD) Despatched
THE CURE: Faith (Deluxe Edition With Bonus CD) Despatched
THE CURE: Seventeen Seconds (Deluxe Edition With Bonus CD) Despatched
NICK CAVE & THE BAD SEEDS: B-Sides & Rarities (3CD) Despatched

DESPATCHED AIN'T GOOD ENOUGH! I NEED TO SEE "DELIVERED"!

― Onimo (GerryNemo), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 20:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, the Nick Cave box is good too...

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 20:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Trudged all around the west end in my lunchbreak today, no sign of the reissues in London, now facing the grim reality that I'll not get my paws on these suckers till 2nd May. Jeex.

One consolation, the Stereolab box is aces.

― mzui (mzui), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 20:44 (twenty-one years ago)

I am wondering how they'll handle the Japanese Whispers tracks, though.

Seems fairly obvious that they wouldn't bother doing a Japanese Whispers reissue (it being effectively a singles compilation anyway). I dare say either the three A-sides will be on the Top's second disc, or they'll get orphaned like Killing An Arab (to later be compiled on the Cure's Sensational Sixth Semi-Redundant Singles Comp!)

― kit brash (kit brash), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 22:01 (twenty-one years ago)

picked "faith" up earlier. still haven't listened to it (still listening to stereolab) but the packaging is beautiful!

― Aerodynamic (Aerodynamic), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 22:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Seems fairly obvious that they wouldn't bother doing a Japanese Whispers reissue (it being effectively a singles compilation anyway)

Sorta my thought. We'll see. There is also that Glove reissue as well...

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 22:47 (twenty-one years ago)

so there were a couple of nuggets in the liner notes that were interesting/new to me, but I thought it very odd that they didn't explain "Carnage Visors" at all.

― teeny (teeny), Thursday, 28 April 2005 01:16 (twenty-one years ago)

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