ahaha. deej basically won me over on the jacka in the swag thread that one time, i gotta say.
― waka flocka display name (zvookster), Monday, 11 October 2010 23:12 (thirteen years ago) link
their selling points are actually kinda similar. great imagery and metaphors, storytelling and melodic kinda hypnotizing effect. obviously they are opposites when it comes to vocal style though and they have their own melodic tics and signatures that are very different
D-Lo is the shit. his tonite show is one of my favorite discs from the past couple years.
― surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally, Monday, 11 October 2010 23:15 (thirteen years ago) link
yah i love d-lo too don't get me wrong
― waka flocka display name (zvookster), Monday, 11 October 2010 23:18 (thirteen years ago) link
ile
idk i never bought husalah's 'bouncing off the walls' thing -- he seems pretty contained to me for a rapper whose selling point is being unhinged -- he's certainly no e-40 when it comes to vocal tricks
― truly blunted rhyme fiend (J0rdan S.), Monday, October 11, 2010 6:06 PM (28 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
e-40 isnt unhinged at all -- his hyperprecise
― trollin trollin trollin we aint slept in weeks (deej), Monday, 11 October 2010 23:36 (thirteen years ago) link
he's hyperprecise rather
yeah i know, i was just trying to draw a comparison between two abnormal vocalists
― truly blunted rhyme fiend (J0rdan S.), Monday, 11 October 2010 23:37 (thirteen years ago) link
maybe you should get around to actually living w/ his album
― trollin trollin trollin we aint slept in weeks (deej), Monday, 11 October 2010 23:39 (thirteen years ago) link
i already have three roommates
― truly blunted rhyme fiend (J0rdan S.), Monday, 11 October 2010 23:41 (thirteen years ago) link
poor man's slocki that one
― trollin trollin trollin we aint slept in weeks (deej), Monday, 11 October 2010 23:44 (thirteen years ago) link
haha
― truly blunted rhyme fiend (J0rdan S.), Monday, 11 October 2010 23:44 (thirteen years ago) link
D-Lo is crazy to me. Like Lil B/ Waka style naiveté and energy and presence. Same thing can be said about him as far as ability but if anyone doubts his ability to carry a song proper check "It Won't Be Long".
After that new track above I can't even imagine what he and dj fresh are gonna make this hear. All the other dudes in that stable are just boring compared to him. So underrated
― surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally, Wednesday, 13 October 2010 05:33 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah i agree about d-lo he also bodied Husalah & keak on thishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sn96i7pyYsQ
― j. sargent & lil k3v (deej), Wednesday, 13 October 2010 12:17 (thirteen years ago) link
have converted to the church of husalah but (and this might be a challop to like the two other ilxors who have actually heard the album) i prefer his more recent stuff to huslin since da 80's. which is a cool album but i think his personality/voice is more fully formed & unique now. also more energetic and with better ad libs. find he sounds like ghostface on a lot of huslin whereas his verses on mob trial or lwj are unmistakably him. either definitely one of the best rappers out, the only of these nu-bay dudes i fully f/w
― samosa gibreel, Wednesday, 13 October 2010 19:30 (thirteen years ago) link
either way,
this album came out in 1999
http://theanimalplanet.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/mobfigaz_99.jpg
there's nothing "nu" about husalah. i think we were using nu-bay to refer to like livewire/dj fresh affiliated 20-somethings
― surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally, Wednesday, 13 October 2010 19:43 (thirteen years ago) link
mob trial is older than 80s
― j. sargent & lil k3v (deej), Wednesday, 13 October 2010 21:34 (thirteen years ago) link
i think 'nu bay' still applies bcuz these dudes are only popular post-hyphy & its a much diff movement that livewire dudes are more indebted to mob figaz than e.g. e-40
― j. sargent & lil k3v (deej), Wednesday, 13 October 2010 21:35 (thirteen years ago) link
also imo he sounds pretty much the same on recent shit as he did on 80s
― j. sargent & lil k3v (deej), Wednesday, 13 October 2010 21:36 (thirteen years ago) link
also as far as the ghostface comparison, while his voice has the same tenor as ghost's, his raps sound nothing like his -- lyrically/flow-wise he's much closer to raekwon, or like kurupt, chewing his way through each verse. (i stole that particular turn of phrase from jayson green). & he feels like a lot more of a loose cannon relative to ghost
― j. sargent & lil k3v (deej), Wednesday, 13 October 2010 22:08 (thirteen years ago) link
meant this mob trial btw, which is still old as fuck
http://milliondollardream.com/MOBTRIAL35.jpg
i wonder why i thought it was more recent? i think i saw lex recommending it & must've figured
anyways i like hustlin i really do, but i do think there is a significant difference b/w that and his verse on lw j in terms of energy, voice. despite being recognizably the same rapper, idk it seems to me he's doing new things. i should get furly ghost & test out this theory
imo he there are intermittent moments where he sounds exactly like ghostface on 80s, voice & accent-wise at least. but ya obviously there are huge differences flow-wise, though i don't really see much of a connection to kurupt or raekwon, & would be interested in hear you elaborate more on that actually. imo the husalah innovation is finding amazing ways to break meter & a total disregard for traditional rythmic continuity line-to-line. just totally unpredictable but fun as hell to listen to and somehow catchy real catchy
― samosa gibreel, Thursday, 14 October 2010 23:39 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah i mean rhythmically he works in a really unpredictable BUT extremely rhythmic manner -- i think this is important -- its like his patterns are unexpected, but hes not going off-beat or anything. and the way rhyming syllables show up in unpredictable patterns too
but what makes me think of rae/kurupt is the brutality of his flow, the way its intentionally chopping into the beat or something ... those two are both highly rhythmic, confrontational rappers who hit the groove face-forward, where dudes like jacka or curren$y sorta slide around on top or against the grain of the rhythm above the groove
― j. sargent & lil k3v (deej), Thursday, 14 October 2010 23:52 (thirteen years ago) link
its like jacka floats, husalah dives in & fights w/ the current
amen
― samosa gibreel, Thursday, 14 October 2010 23:58 (thirteen years ago) link
so sad that Pfork feels the need to review the latest Pimp C cash-in comp but only has ONE E-40 review in their archive (for My Ghetto Report Card. wtf)
― men just grunt it all out together (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 26 October 2010 19:40 (thirteen years ago) link
was kinda my fault i didnt push for it hard enough
― j. sargent & lil k3v (deej), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 00:14 (thirteen years ago) link
I'M SO ME'D OUTME ME MEOOOOOHH MEI'M IN LOVE WITH ME
― bitch i'm jjjusten at em (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 30 October 2010 17:46 (thirteen years ago) link
the fuck?
― j. sargent & lil k3v (deej), Saturday, 30 October 2010 20:47 (thirteen years ago) link
what song is that
"How I'm Feeling Right Now" off Night Shift
― bitch i'm jjjusten at em (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 30 October 2010 21:01 (thirteen years ago) link
sweet
― j. sargent & lil k3v (deej), Saturday, 30 October 2010 22:19 (thirteen years ago) link
i'm on an independent label get paid under the tablei sell dope cuz there ain't no cable sip syrup when I'm able
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXbUj55nBxU
― surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally, Thursday, 11 November 2010 17:29 (thirteen years ago) link
HOOD GO HAM WHEN IT'S WATER AND CARL
― based lord sotosyn (The Reverend), Tuesday, 23 November 2010 11:37 (thirteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bH-A3Be7lVY
lol at ray j but meh
― The Reverend, Tuesday, 18 January 2011 07:24 (thirteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7EnaUB2aQ0
― odd taran wild'n gang killam all (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 3 February 2011 23:13 (thirteen years ago) link
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
― The Reverend, Thursday, 3 February 2011 23:26 (thirteen years ago) link
lol that guy looks like he is HAMMERED
― bien-pensant vibe (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 3 February 2011 23:28 (thirteen years ago) link
http://blog.timothywatters.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/2010-E-40-TTW-oil-on-canvas-painting-art-poster-tim-watters.jpg
― bien-pensant vibe (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 3 February 2011 23:39 (thirteen years ago) link
what's water and Carl anyway
― ullr saves (gbx), Thursday, 3 February 2011 23:48 (thirteen years ago) link
Water is a chemical substance with the chemical formula H2O. Its molecule contains one oxygen and two hydrogen atoms connected by covalent bonds. Water is a liquid at ambient conditions, but it often co-exists on Earth with its solid state, ice, and gaseous state, water vapor or steam.
Carl is a popular given name as well as the name of various places. The most popular male variations are Karl, Charles; the popularity stems from the long lines of historical nobility using these names. There also exist many female variations such as Charlotte and Carla. Carlos and Carla rank as 3rd most popular names in many Spanish-speaking countries.
― The Reverend, Thursday, 3 February 2011 23:50 (thirteen years ago) link
u shut up
― ullr saves (gbx), Thursday, 3 February 2011 23:51 (thirteen years ago) link
lol
― bien-pensant vibe (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 3 February 2011 23:52 (thirteen years ago) link
(I don't know this one in particular - I mean, "water" could be referring to himself as it's one of his nicknames, but 40-water itself is, duh, 40 of malt liquor)
Water = E-40 Water Fonzarelli
Carl = Clyde Carson
― The Reverend, Thursday, 3 February 2011 23:53 (thirteen years ago) link
the water I sorta guessed, just can't figure the Carl part. whatever, I guess that's just part of lightweight jammin
― ullr saves (gbx), Thursday, 3 February 2011 23:55 (thirteen years ago) link
"Niggas don't really know that I got my name from drinkin' beer"
― The Reverend, Thursday, 3 February 2011 23:55 (thirteen years ago) link
my guess would be Carl is one of the other rappers on the song (Clyde Carson)...?
lol many x-posts
― bien-pensant vibe (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 3 February 2011 23:59 (thirteen years ago) link
i'm secretly a little bit proud to be the first person on ILX to single out the goodness of Lightweight Jammin'
― odd taran wild'n gang killam all (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 4 February 2011 00:23 (thirteen years ago) link
i got thrown off the scent cuz the nation of thizzlam dudes were hating on it!! crazy
― *kl0p* (deej), Friday, 4 February 2011 00:25 (thirteen years ago) link
I discovered that when you put this on repeat it's impossible to tell when it loops back around
― dayo, Friday, 18 February 2011 01:04 (thirteen years ago) link