and everyone in salem probably needs a bath.
― Daniel, Esq., Monday, 11 October 2010 00:55 (thirteen years ago) link
I love that their site is http://s4lem.com/
― markers, Monday, 11 October 2010 00:57 (thirteen years ago) link
are these guys the goths of the 2010s
― max, Monday, 11 October 2010 00:58 (thirteen years ago) link
they feel more like the ministry of the 2010s. were ministry "goth"?
― Daniel, Esq., Monday, 11 October 2010 00:59 (thirteen years ago) link
i think of the knife as neo-goths. unless they were the 2000s goths, now replaced by salem's 2010 goths.
― Daniel, Esq., Monday, 11 October 2010 01:00 (thirteen years ago) link
i think markers is like one of those characters in SVU where stabler & benson break into his apartment and he has salem press clippings and high res, long range photos plastered all over one room in his place
― truly blunted rhyme fiend (J0rdan S.), Monday, 11 October 2010 01:00 (thirteen years ago) link
irl lol
― markers, Monday, 11 October 2010 01:00 (thirteen years ago) link
they feel more like the minstrelsy of the 2010s
do they actually rap a lot? i havent heard them rap at all yet
― max, Monday, 11 October 2010 01:01 (thirteen years ago) link
IAMSOUND is a bad label btw imo
― truly blunted rhyme fiend (J0rdan S.), Monday, 11 October 2010 01:04 (thirteen years ago) link
everybody cool it the crunk police are here
― drawl the whine (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Sunday, October 10, 2010 7:49 PM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
if i say the sky is blue will u argue with me?
― trollin trollin trollin we aint slept in weeks (deej), Monday, 11 October 2010 01:08 (thirteen years ago) link
ministry >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
im not even gonna finish
crunk police
http://funnypicblast.com/wp-content/imgdir/2008_09/sexy-policewoman-pic3.jpg
― truly blunted rhyme fiend (J0rdan S.), Monday, 11 October 2010 01:09 (thirteen years ago) link
that is not deej.
― Daniel, Esq., Monday, 11 October 2010 01:10 (thirteen years ago) link
well, i mean, maybe, but i doubt it.
stop posting photoes of my wife
― trollin trollin trollin we aint slept in weeks (deej), Monday, 11 October 2010 01:15 (thirteen years ago) link
yup
― drawl the whine (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Monday, 11 October 2010 01:34 (thirteen years ago) link
http://i53.tinypic.com/15hblw2.gif
― markers, Monday, 11 October 2010 01:40 (thirteen years ago) link
markers you've had better shticks
― truly blunted rhyme fiend (J0rdan S.), Monday, 11 October 2010 01:44 (thirteen years ago) link
actually I am usually pretty down on markers but his doggedness on this subject is developing its own sort of charm seeing as the actual truth about salem can be summed up by a certain jpg that bought whiney a temp-ban
― drawl the whine (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Monday, 11 October 2010 01:46 (thirteen years ago) link
markers, you can't clown on salem too much. the disc got a 7.5 from p4kmedia. that means salem is 75% good, so you can only clown on it 25% of the time.
― Daniel, Esq., Monday, 11 October 2010 01:58 (thirteen years ago) link
<3 y'all
― markers, Monday, 11 October 2010 02:00 (thirteen years ago) link
bought this today
― moonship journey to baja, Monday, 11 October 2010 02:08 (thirteen years ago) link
i am truly sorry for your lots
― underrated SCAREosmith albums I have loved (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 11 October 2010 04:35 (thirteen years ago) link
idg why this band is popular
― swagula (Lamp), Monday, 11 October 2010 05:09 (thirteen years ago) link
who cares, it's clearly an opportune time for me to make my grand entrance into the pop world making half-assed mumbly music with casio beats
― jukebox bieber jukebox bieb uh huh huh (crüt), Monday, 11 October 2010 05:11 (thirteen years ago) link
the rap beat curtis sent me last sunday >> anything i've heard by salem
― truly blunted rhyme fiend (J0rdan S.), Monday, 11 October 2010 05:13 (thirteen years ago) link
i like half-assed music mumbly music w/casio beats i dont like this oh well who cares but its not v interesting? like i mean id start a thread about the new C V L T S tape that i think is amazing but its not getting 500+ posts enh idk who cares, sure this is dumm to care about really
this band always has such terrible artwork though
― swagula (Lamp), Monday, 11 October 2010 05:18 (thirteen years ago) link
^^ was this post written by fred armisen's impression of joy behar?
― truly blunted rhyme fiend (J0rdan S.), Monday, 11 October 2010 05:21 (thirteen years ago) link
just a fantastic reference there
i started writing up something with actual words but its an ilm thread about salem so
― c (Lamp), Monday, 11 October 2010 05:26 (thirteen years ago) link
glad you stopped by
― truly blunted rhyme fiend (J0rdan S.), Monday, 11 October 2010 05:34 (thirteen years ago) link
thread policing on the ilm thread about salem is so nagl
― jukebox bieber jukebox bieb uh huh huh (crüt), Monday, 11 October 2010 05:39 (thirteen years ago) link
lol i wasn't thread policing, i was making fun of lamp for saying "eh who cares" like 8 times in two sentences
― truly blunted rhyme fiend (J0rdan S.), Monday, 11 October 2010 05:41 (thirteen years ago) link
exaggerated apathy is the only valid response &c &c
― c (Lamp), Monday, 11 October 2010 06:02 (thirteen years ago) link
I didn't actively hate this when I listened to it this morning but I still can't really see what the point of this music actually is. Can't think its whole doomladen vibe would be better with some actual space to the music, and less ridiculously tinny drum sounds.
― Matt DC, Monday, 11 October 2010 08:44 (thirteen years ago) link
the point of this music is when it's late at night and you want some background music that's also a little ~discomfiting~ but that you don't need to pay much attention to
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Monday, 11 October 2010 09:12 (thirteen years ago) link
It seems to demand too much attention for that, a bit like the Flying Lotus album. Although Cosmogramma >>> King Night.
― Matt DC, Monday, 11 October 2010 09:38 (thirteen years ago) link
Bohren and der Club of Gore are the go-to for this surely. I agree with Matt, whether you love or loathe Salem I'd find it hard to use this as background music.
― Tim F, Monday, 11 October 2010 09:49 (thirteen years ago) link
There's also the problem that Southern rap drum sounds sound like shit when divorced from actual rap music, especially music that aspires towards heaviness (both this and Lil Wayne's atrocious rock record spring to mind).
― Matt DC, Monday, 11 October 2010 09:54 (thirteen years ago) link
The whole sounding like shit thing works well for Salem imo
― scaruffi kaleidoscope (Drugs A. Money), Monday, 11 October 2010 10:51 (thirteen years ago) link
also, how does one get arrested by the Crunk Police?
Wait, I got it: "In 2007, the hottest name in crunk was in fact...Belle and Sebastian."
― scaruffi kaleidoscope (Drugs A. Money), Monday, 11 October 2010 10:57 (thirteen years ago) link
There's also the problem that Southern rap drum sounds sound like shit when divorced from actual rap music,
this is the kind of assertion about which I am really suspicious - any musical sound in any genre context could be just great depending on how it was used in my opinion - the notion that particular sounds/textures/tones can't sound good except in a given genre context strikes me as a claim that'd require more defense than could be mustered on its behalf
― drawl the whine (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Monday, 11 October 2010 12:43 (thirteen years ago) link
Okay can we please not compare one of the year's most brilliant albums to one of its most desperately boring and overhyped?
― i'm just saying let ilxor say something nice to me ffs (ilxor), Monday, 11 October 2010 13:26 (thirteen years ago) link
wait which one is which?
― call all destroyer, Monday, 11 October 2010 13:29 (thirteen years ago) link
Anyone who's seen me in the Flying Lotus thread or gushing about his live set should know the answer to that.
― i'm just saying let ilxor say something nice to me ffs (ilxor), Monday, 11 October 2010 13:33 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah missed that thread
― call all destroyer, Monday, 11 October 2010 13:35 (thirteen years ago) link
Yeah I thought Cosmogramma was an unlistenable rehash of some of the worst elements of noodly up-its-own-bottom IDM. I couldn't sit through hardly any of it.
What puzzles me on this thread isn't the people who don't like Salem, as this is an aesthetic decision, but the people who say it's "derivative" or "boring" or "not sure what it's for" etc... I mean, this is not really like a lot of music that's been out before, despite certain allusions to industrial, hip hop and house music. They def seem to be doing their own thing - it's an original sound and aesthetic, so I can't see how it could be classed as uninteresting.
― village idiot (dog latin), Monday, 11 October 2010 13:46 (thirteen years ago) link
really? something can't be both original and boring?
― call all destroyer, Monday, 11 October 2010 13:53 (thirteen years ago) link
I agree that parts of the album do drag a bit, and maybe parts of it could have been done better. But the quintessence of Salem IS interesting and original, and it also seems obvious what this music is "for". I don't agree with those on this thread who are all "Oh it's Salem, oh YAWWWWN I've seen all this before..." because the only band I can really equate with them based on aesthetic value are Ministry, who don't really sound like Salem much at all and haven't done anything worthwhile in years.
― village idiot (dog latin), Monday, 11 October 2010 13:57 (thirteen years ago) link
i mean, they are definitely "original" but only because they're a watered-down, whitenized and hipster chic version of something I already like.
― like the G6 summit (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 11 October 2010 14:03 (thirteen years ago) link