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That remark makes me realize why people say Tim is crazy!

― Lion-O (nordicskilla), Thursday, 13 October 2005 18:09 (twenty years ago)

"the 80s entry in the production trilogy" - roffl.

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Thursday, 13 October 2005 18:19 (twenty years ago)

crazy!

― gear (gear), Thursday, 13 October 2005 18:21 (twenty years ago)

WE'RE NOT CRAZY!

http://www.toliveandshaveinla.com/flemmas/vonbg.jpg

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Thursday, 13 October 2005 18:39 (twenty years ago)

Anyway ... guys ... I'm not saying those records are bad. Even Sweet Sixteen! (Actually, I think that second NMH solo album is something that you might call a genuinely bad album, even if there are a couple of good songs.) But the later Royal Trux records did just strike me as being more of the same and I lost interest in them.

And I didn't expect that from them and wondered why it happened. Every time they put out a record for a long time, it was something new.

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Thursday, 13 October 2005 18:49 (twenty years ago)

Seriously, they were my favorite band! There was a visionary quality to them for a while.

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Thursday, 13 October 2005 18:51 (twenty years ago)

what's wrong with the title of veterans of disorder?!

― gear (gear), Thursday, 13 October 2005 19:14 (twenty years ago)

I suppose if they had been DOING SOMETHING and not just treading water, it wouldn't have seemed as pathetic. I mean, what, I'm supposed to give them their propers because they're VETERANS???

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Thursday, 13 October 2005 19:20 (twenty years ago)

I mean, what, I'm supposed to give them their propers because they're VETERANS???

yes, just like the beatles.

― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 13 October 2005 19:36 (twenty years ago)

dunno what that's supposed to mean

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Thursday, 13 October 2005 19:37 (twenty years ago)

just a bit of fun, let's be cool.

― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 13 October 2005 19:38 (twenty years ago)

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Thursday, 13 October 2005 19:39 (twenty years ago)

preferred order:

Veterans of Disorder
Sweet Sixteen
Twin Infinitives
Singles Live Unreleased
Thank You
Accelerator
Pound For Pound
Cats and Dogs
Royal Trux (1992)
Hand of Glory
Royal Trux (1988)

and I really like RTX 1988!

― gear (gear), Saturday, 15 October 2005 04:10 (twenty years ago)

Neil Michael Hagerty Band live from May 30th, 2001:
http://s41.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=01KJ7NBVYPPXC08U0W05K9HFCH

― Mike Dixn (Mike Dixon), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 21:59 (twenty years ago)

hey Tim do you like RTX/Hagerty solo?

― gear (gear), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 22:02 (twenty years ago)

I kinda liked the first album, but thought the second one (that NMH Plays That Good Ol' Rock 'n' Roll (!!!) one) was not so good. I haven't followed him since. I have some curiousity about what he's been doing.

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 22:03 (twenty years ago)

I like that 1st song on the 1st solo album - the one that has that silly "Rock the Boat" allusion.

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 22:05 (twenty years ago)

The third album is astoundingly good, especially the first half.

― Mike Dixn (Mike Dixon), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 22:07 (twenty years ago)

Did they ever really work with post-Kenickie scamps Chicks, or was that just a vicious rumour?

― carson dial (carson dial), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 22:09 (twenty years ago)

You'd probably dig All Night Fox.

― gear (gear), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 22:11 (twenty years ago)

Did they ever really work with post-Kenickie scamps Chicks, or was that just a vicious rumour?
Neil and Jennifer supposedly produced a "major label pop record", but I've never been able to figure out what record, or if it's even true.

― Mike Dixn (Mike Dixon), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 22:43 (twenty years ago)

it's true

http://www.rtxarchive.com/archive/articles/wire199.html

― jhoshea (scoopsnoodle), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 23:12 (twenty years ago)

"We had this Grateful Dead CD case," he says, "and it has the Steal Your Face skull flash logo on it. One of The Chick's said, "What is that, Pepsi?'. We said, 'No it's The Grateful Dead!' She's like, 'Who?'."

― jhoshea (scoopsnoodle), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 23:14 (twenty years ago)

damn good article

― gear (gear), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 23:20 (twenty years ago)

Mike Dixn - Thanks!!

― morris pavilion (samjeff), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 23:33 (twenty years ago)

"They wanted to be part of what we did," adds Jennifer. "They wanted their input but there was nothing to talk about with them. I got on the phone with Virgin's vice-president for the last time and it was all about the demographic. We're talking 17 and under, that's all they cared about. Personally I wouldn't talk to anybody under the age of 17, much less make music for them."

― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 23:35 (twenty years ago)

That quote is kind of annoying. What, you gotta be at least eighteen to appreciate the fact that although they didn't come up with a set of songs that were as good as the songs they did on the three albums prior to Sweet Sixteen, they at least made some kind of stoner friendly mess/head music album?

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 02:23 (twenty years ago)

"Pound for pound, the trailer park noise symphonies of Royal Trux out-weird everything this side of Ornette Coleman and The Grateful Dead."- Gawd.

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 02:59 (twenty years ago)

you're like 35, right?

― hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 03:04 (twenty years ago)

What's it to you?

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 03:12 (twenty years ago)

nothin', just asking.

― hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 03:24 (twenty years ago)

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 03:24 (twenty years ago)

ah ok.

― hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 03:26 (twenty years ago)

Hagerty's description of Sweet Sixteen in that Wire article is interesting: "Take every bad idea that rock's ever produced, put it all into songs and then use a contemporary rock producer from 1996 to mix it in a complete middle-of-the-road rock way"

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Saturday, 22 October 2005 22:58 (twenty years ago)

Not to say that it's an interesting concept for a record because I don't think that record is very good. But interesting with regard to the question of the degree to which his music is satire.

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Saturday, 22 October 2005 23:12 (twenty years ago)

three weeks pass...

hey, i found this site by search engine.

can anyone send me those Drag City Supersessions tracks? i've been looking for those for ages!

― jointchief, Sunday, 13 November 2005 16:29 (twenty years ago)

$2.25

― Mike Dixn (Mike Dixon), Sunday, 13 November 2005 16:41 (twenty years ago)

they're not so hot. cally's red sovine cover is worth a listen though.

― god body, Monday, 14 November 2005 09:05 (twenty years ago)

I don't like them

― Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Monday, 14 November 2005 09:09 (twenty years ago)

I like the Hag songs.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 14 November 2005 14:56 (twenty years ago)

Can you describe what you think is great about the arrangements and post-production?

---I don't think it, you work it out

― Schwip Schwap (schwip schwap), Monday, 14 November 2005 15:24 (twenty years ago)

You'll thank me one day, maybe, it'd be sweet if you dug it

― Schwip Schwap (schwip schwap), Monday, 14 November 2005 15:28 (twenty years ago)

detoxes are evil

― sexyDancer (sexyDancer), Monday, 14 November 2005 15:51 (twenty years ago)

Anyone have an idea where I could get the "What is Royal Trux?" video, other than Ebay?

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 18 November 2005 15:40 (twenty years ago)

I guess not. :(

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 18 November 2005 18:01 (twenty years ago)

You could come over to my house, get lit and watch half of it before getting bored or something.
"Wow, they really are fucked up on drugs" is a big part of it.

― detoxyDancer (sexyDancer), Friday, 18 November 2005 18:15 (twenty years ago)

BUT I WANT IT

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 18 November 2005 18:19 (twenty years ago)

I haven't watched it yet, but the best thing about the new Howling Hex DVD is that it's only half-an-hour long.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Friday, 18 November 2005 18:20 (twenty years ago)

You get to see them drive in a van to Dan Koretzky's house where they all proceed to sit on a couch .. it's great!

What's great is the short tape they released to promote Thank You. It's them hanging out at the house in Virginia making coffee!

― Stormy Davis (diamond), Friday, 18 November 2005 18:22 (twenty years ago)

I kind of want to see that too, because I think they were very near where my gf's dad lives out in central VA.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 18 November 2005 18:27 (twenty years ago)

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