― Dan Perry, Monday, 29 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― DeRayMi, Monday, 29 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― Roger Fascist, Monday, 29 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
D'you think it's bad timing or coincidence that the band disolved after Ritual?
― dyson, Monday, 29 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
Another point is the production on Shocking which I find a little flat - I don't feel that Jerden and Champagne were able to get the best out of the musicians or the Jane's sound at this point, although having said that, I do dig the rawer edge and the more incendiary drum sound.
Whereas on Ritual, the guys at the controls were able to set them for the heart of the sun and that's where the music takes me. As for the first few tracks, I dunno man... from the lead-in narrative, I'm hooked and that buzzsaw Navarro riff. Jesus. Then there's that pop-bass on No One's.. Oh mama. The album is littered with winning creative decisions. Y'know, sometimes in fact, Obvious is my favourite track off Ritual though I'm not sure why. Do you get thet?
Out of curiosity, anyone know about the new Jane's material? From what I can gather of the websites out there, they are in the studio working with fucking Paul Oakenfold! Where the hell is Jerden when you need him?
― Roger Fascist, Tuesday, 30 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
Where I deviate from the fan party line is that I think _Nothing's Shocking_ and _Ritual De Lo Habitual_ are equal; _NS_ is more consistent, but _RdlH_ has better songs on it. If I wanted to listen to an entire album, I'd grab _NS_. If I wanted to play selected songs, I'd grab _RdlH_.
― Dan Perry, Tuesday, 30 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
OK, so it's not the Academy but it's not a bad compromise.
Better get on the blower to the ticket agencies pronto then...
Hello.
― Roger Fascist, Tuesday, 6 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― ron (ron), Tuesday, 14 January 2003 03:50 (twenty-three years ago)
― ron (ron), Tuesday, 14 January 2003 03:53 (twenty-three years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 14 January 2003 04:22 (twenty-three years ago)
― ron (ron), Tuesday, 14 January 2003 04:50 (twenty-three years ago)
uh, Neil Young? The only thing Jane's brought together were fratboys and fratgirls.
Verdict - Dud. They lie too much for truthseekers and are too pretentious to create something communal. And the junk culture stuff I have no use for.
Exception: Jane Says. Momentarily, the dream is alive. Especially when Dave Navarro isn't around.
― gabbneb, Tuesday, 14 January 2003 08:46 (twenty-three years ago)
Classic. Shocking is only nearly classic, but Ritual is beyond classic.
― Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 14 January 2003 08:58 (twenty-three years ago)
― Roger Fascist (Roger Fascist), Tuesday, 14 January 2003 09:39 (twenty-three years ago)
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 14 January 2003 09:47 (twenty-three years ago)
― Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 14 January 2003 10:51 (twenty-three years ago)
― Ian John50n (orion), Monday, 10 October 2005 03:45 (twenty years ago)
― Cunga (Cunga), Monday, 10 October 2005 04:06 (twenty years ago)
provided you skip "Been Caught Stealing."
Are you mad? (Mind you, the song always sounded better live.)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 10 October 2005 05:13 (twenty years ago)
I don't know much about Farrell as a person/ality. Why is he punchable?
― Sundar (sundar), Monday, 10 October 2005 05:44 (twenty years ago)
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 10 October 2005 06:58 (twenty years ago)
― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Monday, 10 October 2005 08:30 (twenty years ago)
Completely dud. Their brains are fried to the max. They look like shit. They're music is just plain bonkers like Zappa's: tries to be funny but fails miserably. I suspect they tried to do the sock thing but they couldn't find any baby socks...
And to think I'm reading the Brendan Mullen oral biography now. I still really don't understand why I even bothered to buy the book, even though I am not as hostile towards them as I once was. That said, PF seems to be such a dick. I also can't believe the "they are incredibly seminal, paved the way for the rest" bullshit line. I mean, maybe they were (in reality) but I refuse to believe it anyway.
― stevienixed, Monday, 11 June 2007 07:11 (eighteen years ago)
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Classic Classic Classic
― nicky lo-fi, Monday, 11 June 2007 07:39 (eighteen years ago)
My little sister came over the other day to rip all my Jane's Addiction CDs. Her quip: "Yeah, I've really wanted to listen to Jane's Addiction lately, but couldn't bring myself to buy them." They belong to a different era, and stick out like a sore thumb in this one. But we listened to Nothings Shocking, and it still pushed my wig back with its bombastic excellence.
Kids who could never see eye to eye on anything - long hair in front vs. hair long in back, dead milkmen vs. led zeppelin, goth chicks and smiths fans, our u.s. equivalents of ravey davey and also student grant could all sing along
Jane's pretty much united the smoking section at my high school.
― kingkongvsgodzilla, Monday, 11 June 2007 07:47 (eighteen years ago)
Classic.
Just Because.
― SeekAltRoute, Monday, 11 June 2007 10:06 (eighteen years ago)
i like them a lot but they definitely shone in a particular time and place. it resonates a lot less now, but the succession of 'three days' and 'then she did...' is still pretty mindblowing.
― Charlie Howard, Monday, 11 June 2007 14:46 (eighteen years ago)
I saw Satellite Party (Perry's new band) supporting Velvet Revolver on Thursday night. Never heard anything by them before, they were... ok. They did two JA songs - Stop! and Mountain Song - which got the biggest applause of the night.
It was a little bit sad though. I think maybe half of the people there knew who Perry Farrell was, half of them didn't care. People were just talking and drinking and paying no attention to this man who gave me one of the greatest nights of my life - Jane's Addiction live in a club in London in about 1987
― nate woolls, Monday, 11 June 2007 15:04 (eighteen years ago)
I find JA kind of annoying, but I missed out on them at the time they were around, hence missing out on their cultural context, which a lot of the above comments talk about.
also, i once saw my dad flipping channels, and the "been caught stealing" video was on. He muttered, "obscene son of a bitch..." under his breath before changing the channel.
― Richard Wood Johnson, Wednesday, 25 July 2007 15:48 (eighteen years ago)
yeah, now (this day and age) really isn't a particularly appropriate time to be considering this question somehow
― Charlie Howard, Thursday, 26 July 2007 07:40 (eighteen years ago)
Flipped my lid over "Jane Says" again which I played while running last week, and also heard in a small bar (pub) just after the World Cup.
― Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You, Monday, 16 June 2008 12:14 (seventeen years ago)
UGH @ this band
― stephen, Monday, 16 June 2008 23:41 (seventeen years ago)
Mostly dud. I liked the second half of Ritual where Farrell's awful lyrics and singing kind of disappear beneath the jam session when it came out, but they were so omnipresent at the time I might just have been looking for a silver lining to make listening to that album less annoying. The "hits" are all uniformly terrible.
― Alex in SF, Monday, 16 June 2008 23:58 (seventeen years ago)
"then she did" is one of the great all time sublime epic jams. i've been playing it on the juke box every time i hit the pool hall. i don't lose when it's on
― kamerad, Tuesday, 17 June 2008 00:19 (seventeen years ago)
they had their moments.
― Zeno, Tuesday, 17 June 2008 00:25 (seventeen years ago)
"pets" was played somewhere last week. brought back some memories. good song.
― Zeno, Tuesday, 17 June 2008 00:27 (seventeen years ago)
Pets, yeah. That one was pretty good. Wasn't that a side project after JA though?
― Bimble, Tuesday, 17 June 2008 02:20 (seventeen years ago)
The "hits" songs are all uniformly terrible.
― stephen, Tuesday, 17 June 2008 02:29 (seventeen years ago)
Porno for Pyros xpost
― Zeno, Tuesday, 17 June 2008 02:30 (seventeen years ago)
i think it's been mentioned 10 x in this thread, but the second half of ritual makes all the other silliness associated with this band almost worth it.
― will, Tuesday, 17 June 2008 03:05 (seventeen years ago)
Ritual and Nothing's Shocking are awesome.
Perry Ferrell is a dick.
― HI DERE, Tuesday, 17 June 2008 03:21 (seventeen years ago)
Back once more:
...it was confirmed on Dave Navarro's blog Tuesday that the entire lineup would reunite Thursday for a full show at La Cita Bar in downtown Los Angeles. The night is hosted by Shepard Fairey, who will break away from maniacally screenprinting Obama posters and T-shirts for the evening.
Eric A's been back with them this time around. Too little, too late. (His solo album's all right enough.)
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 23 October 2008 14:37 (seventeen years ago)
http://xiola.org/
2.25.09
i got my hands on some digital pics of jane's addiction's boxset cabinet of curiosities coming out april 21st and a track list. the packaging looks cool as shit. from the pics you can see quite a bit went into packaging. there is one main booklet, four individual sleeves highly decorated. it's gonna be four discs, 3 audio, one dvd.
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unofficial track list
DISC [1]0.CD1.JANE SAYS (RADIO TOKYO DEMO) [UNRELEASED]2.PIGS IN ZEN (RADIO TOKYO DEMO) [SCREAM - THE COMPILATION]3.MOUNTAIN SONG (RADIO TOKYO DEMO) [OST: DUDES]4.HAD A DAD (RADIO TOKYO DEMO) [SINGLE]5.I WOULD FOR YOU (RADIO TOKYO DEMO) [SINGLE]6.IDIOT'S RULE [APRIL 1987 DEMO]7.CLASSIC GIRL [APRIL 1987 DEMO]8.UP THE BEACH [APRIL 1987 DEMO]9.SUFFER SOME [APRIL 1987 DEMO]10.THANK YOU BOYS [APRIL 1987 DEMO]11.SUMMERTIME ROLLS [APRIL 1987 DEMO]12.CITY [APRIL 1987 DEMO]13.OCEAN SIZE [APRIL 1987 DEMO]14.STOP [APRIL 1987 DEMO]15.STANDING IN THE SHOWER?THINKING [APRIL 1987 DEMO]16.AIN'T NO RIGHT [APRIL 1987 DEMO]17.THREE DAYS [APRIL 1987 DEMO]
DISC [2]0.CD1.TED, JUST ADMIT IT [HULLY GULLY DEMO (9/1987)]2.MACEO [HULLY GULLY DEMO (9/1987)]3.NO ONE'S LEAVING [HULLY GULLY DEMO (9/1987)]4.MY TIME (REHEARSAL) [UNRELEASED]5.BEEN CAUGHT STEALING (12"" REMIX) [SINGLE]6.RIPPLE [DEDICATED]7.DON'T CALL ME NIGGER, WHITEY [PROMO] *JANE'S ADDICTION & BODY COUNT8.L.A. MEDLEY (LIVE) [SINGLE]9.KETTLE WHISTLE (LIVE) [VARIETY ARTS CENTER(7/10/1987)]10.WHOLE LOTTA LOVE (LIVE) [SACRAMENTO (7/8/1987)]11.1970 (LIVE) [SEATTLE (12/11/1987)]12.BOBHAUS (LIVE) [SEATTLE (3/29/1989)]13.JUST BECAUSE (ACOUSTIC) [UNRELEASED]14.SUFFER SOME (LIVE) [SINGLE]15.THE PRICE I PAY (LIVE) [SINGLE]
DISC [3]0.CD1.DRUM INTRO [HOLLYWOOD PALLADIUM (12/19/90)]2.UP THE BEACH (LIVE) [KETTLE WHISTLE]3.WHORES (LIVE) [HOLLYWOOD PALLADIUM (12/19/90)]4.1% (LIVE) [HOLLYWOOD PALLADIUM (12/19/90)]5.NO ONE'S LEAVING (LIVE) [SINGLE]6.AIN'T NO RIGHT (LIVE) [SINGLE]7.THEN SHE DID (LIVE) [HOLLYWOOD PALLADIUM (12/19/90)]8.HAD A DAD (LIVE) [HOLLYWOOD PALLADIUM (12/19/90)]9.BEEN CAUGHT STEALING (LIVE) [HOLLYWOOD PALLADIUM (12/19/90)]10.THREE DAYS (LIVE) [KETTLE WHISTLE]11.MOUNTAIN SONG (LIVE) [HOLLYWOOD PALLADIUM (12/19/90)]12.STOP! (LIVE) [KETTLE WHISTLE]13.SUMMERTIME ROLLS (LIVE) [HOLLYWOOD PALLADIUM (12/19/90)]14.OCEAN SIZE (LIVE) [HOLLYWOOD PALLADIUM (12/19/90)]
DISC [4]0.DVD1.MOUNTAIN SONG (UNEDITED) [SOUL KISS]2.CITY [SOUL KISS]3.HAD A DAD [PROMO CLIP]4.MOUNTAIN SONG [PROMO CLIP]5.STOP! [PROMO CLIP]6.AIN'T NO RIGHT [PROMO CLIP]7.BEEN CAUGHT STEALING [PROMO CLIP]8.CLASSIC GIRL [PROMO CLIP]9.OCEAN SIZE [PROMO CLIP]10.JANES SAYS [PROMO CLIP]11.WHORES [LIVE - ITALY]12.THREE DAYS [LIVE - ITALY]13.THEN SHE DID [LIVE - ITALY]14.DON'T CALL ME NIGGER WHITEY (LIVE) [UNRELEASED]
― Bee OK, Friday, 27 February 2009 06:35 (seventeen years ago)
Hmm. Well that I'll get.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 27 February 2009 06:38 (seventeen years ago)
"Median: $129.50"
Sounds about right for early 90s major label vinyl!
― I am the agent of Judas Priest (Matt #2), Thursday, 26 September 2024 15:30 (one year ago)
that podcast just appeared on my spotify btw
― StanM, Thursday, 26 September 2024 15:49 (one year ago)
Listening now!
― calstars, Thursday, 26 September 2024 15:51 (one year ago)
The vinyl of Ritual WEA put out a couple of years ago - on clear 2LP - sounds AMAZING. Other copies I've owned sounded ASS. CAVEAT EMPTOR.
― Judge Judy, executioner (stevie), Thursday, 26 September 2024 15:53 (one year ago)
Ritual will always be two sides for me. Been Caught Stealing going right into Three Days is bad sequencing. On CD or streaming, one needs to get up and take a quick intermission before starting Three Days.
― beard papa, Thursday, 26 September 2024 16:34 (one year ago)
the podcast is a unique view behind the curtain
― StanM, Thursday, 26 September 2024 16:40 (one year ago)
Ritual will always be two sides for me.
totally get this and am generally not a fan of spreading albums over two discs if they were originally 1LPs, but this does deliver perhaps the greatest Side C in all of rock.
― Judge Judy, executioner (stevie), Thursday, 26 September 2024 16:52 (one year ago)
Well, that was definitely a bummer of a story, but I'm happy that someone as lucid and seemingly objective as this guy was able to go on record in such depth. Interesting that - substance issues notwithstanding - the initial disagreement on the tour had to do with the rest of the band putting their foot down about not having Perry's wife dance on stage (or in video projections). The only time I saw them was on the 1997 Relapse tour, which was the first tour that Etty was dancing as well. I remember that, even as a 19-year-old knucklehead horndog, my reaction to the dancers was "ok, that's interesting I guess, but I'm here to see Jane's Addiction." I guess that was a running shtick!
― peace, man, Thursday, 26 September 2024 18:22 (one year ago)
That was a heck of a listen (the podcast).
― Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 26 September 2024 20:56 (one year ago)
the isolated voice clip was... wow
― StanM, Friday, 27 September 2024 11:55 (one year ago)
soooo… Deconstruction up on streaming, cool development…
then today Eric posts on insta playing some bass to Perkins’ drumming and saying he is looking forward to Navarro adding guitar
don’t know exactly where it is heading but glad these guys are building on the cool chemistry they had on those last JA shows
― Cognosc in Tyrol (emsworth), Saturday, 4 January 2025 06:01 (one year ago)
Sad news that Dave Jerden has passed on. Produced/engineered a shit ton of notable records (partially start your career engineering on Remain in Light? sure!), but I'll always associate him with the original two studio albums. You can hear the demos, you can hear the early live tapes, but Jerden made it all sound even MORE amazing in studio somehow, in terms of sheer contrast and detail alone. The opening of this track will always send me:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDIAJhharwQ
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 6 February 2025 23:54 (one year ago)
Not one of my favorite producers, but RIP all the same. I always got him confused with ubiquitous Hollywood music supervisor Dave Jordan.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 7 February 2025 00:12 (one year ago)
This is a good interview with Dave Jersen from a few years ago.
https://tapeop.com/interviews/86/dave-jerden-Talking-Heads-Stones-Herbie-Hancock/
Michael Beinhorn has some good insight also on working on Herbie’s Future Shock out there.
― The Artist formerly known as Earlnash, Friday, 7 February 2025 00:40 (one year ago)
I never realized Beinhorn had that career as a producer of a million terrible records.
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Friday, 7 February 2025 01:50 (one year ago)
(obv not Herbie, I meant RHCP)
here we go!
― Cognosc in Tyrol (emsworth), Wednesday, 16 July 2025 22:03 (ten months ago)
Been Caught Litigating
― Lithium Just Madison (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 16 July 2025 22:42 (ten months ago)
hours later:https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/perry-farrell-sues-janes-addiction-onstage-fight-1235387568/
― StanM, Wednesday, 16 July 2025 23:38 (ten months ago)
Three days was the recess
― calstars, Thursday, 17 July 2025 00:21 (ten months ago)
People think Perry's statement doesn't look very lawyer-like:https://www.reddit.com/r/janesaddiction/s/PQAXLlR1fq
― StanM, Thursday, 17 July 2025 00:25 (ten months ago)
Well guess all the lawsuits got settled!
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― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 17 December 2025 21:07 (five months ago)
I have to say, they kicked fuckin' ass when they played London last year. Sad they couldn't hold it together.
― I said awfully coy u are. (stevie), Wednesday, 17 December 2025 22:16 (five months ago)
Eric has posted on IG a few snippets featuring Dave N and Perkins - sounded great, would be pretty interested in a project featuring those 3 instrumentally or with guest vocals of some kind
― Cod:Shellfish (emsworth), Wednesday, 17 December 2025 22:25 (five months ago)
just spitballin here but that's a backing band that could pull Rollins out of retirement
― I said awfully coy u are. (stevie), Wednesday, 17 December 2025 22:48 (five months ago)
Hank's Addiction
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 17 December 2025 22:51 (five months ago)
hey now
― I said awfully coy u are. (stevie), Thursday, 18 December 2025 00:12 (five months ago)
They should offer his job to Casey Niccoli
― beard papa, Thursday, 18 December 2025 00:27 (five months ago)
that first article said that navarro had a $25k/month professional disability policy that he had cancelled to resume playing last year. i am very glad he was able to devise a workable strategy for working with his illness. because that's not nothing, if i understand it right.
― look, he's country's own david bowie- deal with it (Hunt3r), Thursday, 18 December 2025 00:53 (five months ago)
That post has similar vibes to thishttps://preview.redd.it/a-moose-once-bit-my-sister-v0-v3ppph6h6wle1.png?width=1080&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=751f4637b8e936064cb959a462faceea28a0a81e
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 18 December 2025 00:54 (five months ago)
Perry also posted a statement:
To everyone in Boston, and around the world.I’d like to address what happened on stage last year. I’ve reflected on it and know I didn’t handle myself the way I should have. I apologize to our patrons and my bandmates for losing my temper and for disrupting the show.Jane’s Addiction has been at the center of my life for decades.The band, the songs, the patrons and the impact that we’ve had on music and culture mean more to me than any words I could ever possibly write down.My aim has always been to give our audience the best possible show, something real, honest and positive. In Boston, we fell short of that, and I’m truly sorry to everyone who was impacted.From the bottom of my heart, I want to thank each and every one of you for your continued love and support.
I’d like to address what happened on stage last year. I’ve reflected on it and know I didn’t handle myself the way I should have. I apologize to our patrons and my bandmates for losing my temper and for disrupting the show.
Jane’s Addiction has been at the center of my life for decades.
The band, the songs, the patrons and the impact that we’ve had on music and culture mean more to me than any words I could ever possibly write down.
My aim has always been to give our audience the best possible show, something real, honest and positive. In Boston, we fell short of that, and I’m truly sorry to everyone who was impacted.
From the bottom of my heart, I want to thank each and every one of you for your continued love and support.
While searching for a text of it that was easy to copy & paste, I was reminded of Casey's article from earlier in the summer of '24, which Ned linked to, above:
Well this is a read. A good one.https://www.huffpost.com/entry/janes-addiction-casey-niccoli-artist_n_668d9f4ce4b08f09c1fb7a11― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, July 17, 2024 3:37 PM (one year ago) bookmarkflaglink
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/janes-addiction-casey-niccoli-artist_n_668d9f4ce4b08f09c1fb7a11
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, July 17, 2024 3:37 PM (one year ago) bookmarkflaglink
Such a classic girl gives a man a great ideaHears you tell your friends, "hey man, why don't you listen to my great idea?"
― peace, man, Thursday, 18 December 2025 11:14 (five months ago)