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i got the album - it has its moments, stuff like 'Suntower' is very much like the 'Don Solaris' material - i'm not as into that side of things from them. 'Lemonsoul' is not bad, features the bloke from Elbow on vocals. there are a lot of tracks on it and i haven't quite given it enough listens but its a pretty typical album by the band as they have been for the last 7 years really.

http://www.808state.com/news/news.htm has more details, and they do put a lot of tunes up for people to download as well - esp. demos, live stuff, unreleased shit, bonus tracks from Japan-only editions etc. - top geezers still

― stevem (blueski), Thursday, 3 April 2003 18:54 (twenty-three years ago)

Thanx stevem! [btw. that page of yours turned out to be a real find for me: Plone, Audio Bullys; never heard (of) them before: terrific stuff!]

― willem (willem), Thursday, 3 April 2003 18:59 (twenty-three years ago)

glad u like willem - i just hope the feds arent onto me yet...

my Pick 10 Only:

Pacific (all 18 or so versions of it)
Cubik
Olympic (Flutey mix)
Ski Family
Lift
Sunrise
Azura
Planet Rock remix (cos it sounds just like Plan 9)
Cobra Bora (Call The Cops mix)
Qmart (ft Bjork)

hardest POX i'll ever compile tho

― stevem (blueski), Thursday, 3 April 2003 19:02 (twenty-three years ago)

Er, Flow Coma is a no-brainer, right?

― Lukas (lukas), Thursday, 3 April 2003 19:48 (twenty-three years ago)

classic. one of my favprite band names also.

― kephm, Thursday, 3 April 2003 20:43 (twenty-three years ago)

Classic, although 2 of them did work at the rip-off scam "sound-engineering" college I went to for a while.

Some of my fondest memories are of being in one of my brothers friends cellars aged about 13 whilst he DJ'ed 808 State and loads of other stuff and people from all over the country "partied down". I didn't figure out why they were all so friendly for years and years.

― Lynskey (Lynskey), Thursday, 3 April 2003 20:54 (twenty-three years ago)

eight months pass...

Don Solaris! What a weird album.

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Thursday, 18 December 2003 17:53 (twenty-two years ago)

i only really like the first half, the second half seems more 'go nowhere' to me. 'Bird' is quite something, 'Bond' was an extraordinary grower, 'Azura' i loved from the start of course, 'Lopez' is a bit weak perhaps, but there's always the Propellerheads mix, 'Balboa' are pretty cool, 'Joyrider' i could never make my mind up on, half Balearic brilliance, half 80s British Airways advert.

― stevem (blueski), Thursday, 18 December 2003 18:22 (twenty-two years ago)

I haven't heard it in ages, but I seem to remember it having some weird cover art. *googles*

Aaaaah, yes! Here we go...

http://www.artistdirect.com/Images/Sources/AMGCOVERS/music/cover200/drd000/d055/d055538d407.jpg

Hahahahahaha!

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Thursday, 18 December 2003 23:33 (twenty-two years ago)

Cock of the North.

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Thursday, 18 December 2003 23:34 (twenty-two years ago)

two years pass...

Man I'm listening to it now and forgot how great 'Reaper Repo' is.

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Thursday, 20 July 2006 13:24 (nineteen years ago)

it's all about Cubik, innit?

― wogan lenin (dog latin), Thursday, 20 July 2006 13:50 (nineteen years ago)

No love for "10 x 10"???

― Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Thursday, 20 July 2006 15:29 (nineteen years ago)

right here

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Thursday, 20 July 2006 15:31 (nineteen years ago)

Ex:el (or however it's spelled) is one of my touchstones. They're also one of the few acts I've seen at least five times.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 20 July 2006 15:39 (nineteen years ago)

xpost: HOORAY

― Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Thursday, 20 July 2006 17:11 (nineteen years ago)

i always remember "state ritual" as played on jeff young's big beat and john peel as one of my earliest exposures to house.

― michael wells (michael w.), Thursday, 20 July 2006 22:53 (nineteen years ago)

Don Solaris is always $0.99 on eBay, at any given time. It's not bad. It's really good, actually; go buy it now. But ex:el, and most especially Newbuild... oh man. A tad dated, sure, but C C C!!!!!!

― less-than three's Christiane F. (drowned in milk), Thursday, 20 July 2006 23:26 (nineteen years ago)

six months pass...

I have the cassette of 808 Utd. State 90 and it's surprising how much I still play this thing compared to my other cassettes. "Ancodia" is a personal fave, but I always play the first side in its entirety. I guess I should try harder to make it over to the other side now and then.

― MY NAME IS FREEZER BURN (Bimble...), Sunday, 11 February 2007 16:57 (nineteen years ago)

Does anyone have "Pacific Break"? I only ever saw it on vinyl (and possibly cassette) versions of the Tommy Boy 12"

― Spencer Chow, Wednesday, 21 February 2007 20:18 (nineteen years ago)

I have it on cassette...it's pretty worn out after all these years...I've also been seeking it on CD...pure bliss...

― henry s, Wednesday, 21 February 2007 20:46 (nineteen years ago)

I seem to recall a Frankie Bones credit on that particular mix.

― Spencer Chow, Wednesday, 21 February 2007 22:47 (nineteen years ago)

Aren't they rereleasing all the early stuff?

― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 21 February 2007 22:48 (nineteen years ago)

Not sure, but this particular mix is exceedingly rare (and wonderful). I've never found a digital copy.

― Spencer Chow, Wednesday, 21 February 2007 22:53 (nineteen years ago)

two months pass...

OMG OMG I just ordered the "Opti Buk" DVD from ZTT's webshop (6gbp shipped WORLDWIDE) and I am soooooooo excited!!

― Stevie D, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 06:20 (nineteen years ago)

the old gig footage (G-Mex i guess) on the DVD is pretty cool. the videos are all kinda lame tho heh.

― blueski, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 09:57 (nineteen years ago)

I was bumping Utd State 90 a week and a half ago and it's startling how that album still feels urgent and fresh everytime I hear it. The transition from "Pacific" to "Boneyween" is one of the greatest things ever.

― HI DERE, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 12:09 (nineteen years ago)

God, Ex:el is so brilliant. Somehow I managed to see them three times in their heyday.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 12:34 (nineteen years ago)

one thing that annoys me about Ex:El is the slight cross-fading of tracks - some of them start just before the previous track has finished.

― blueski, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 13:17 (nineteen years ago)

I owe 808 State for uncorking the deep mysteries of Bernard Sumner.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 13:30 (nineteen years ago)

I saw them three times, too! So awesome.

― HI DERE, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 13:55 (nineteen years ago)

kinda wish i hadn't sold newbuild

― am0n, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 14:18 (nineteen years ago)

wotever happened to Martin Price?...and is Eastern Bloc Records still going?

― henry s, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 14:22 (nineteen years ago)

saw them twice in the same week with Meat Beat Manifesto.

― dan selzer, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 14:32 (nineteen years ago)

only saw them twice ever, around 97/98. the 'Don Solaris' tracks sounded a lot better live at least, esp. 'Balboa'.

― blueski, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 14:33 (nineteen years ago)

i saw them at 2 different festivals that i can recall. one just after ex:el and one around don solaris. i have a feeling i'd seen them a 3rd time, but no real proof

― Alan, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 14:35 (nineteen years ago)

i'm really liking newbuild right now, having never given 808 state much of a chance. "compulsion" is especially nice. what should i try next?

― andrew m., Wednesday, 2 May 2007 14:40 (nineteen years ago)

A Guy Called Gerald - Automannik

― henry s, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 14:53 (nineteen years ago)

I still hold "Voodoo Ray" as superior to anything 808 ever did.

― Stevie D, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 23:26 (nineteen years ago)

three months pass...

random q - anyone got an emailable copy of the only rhyme that bites? need it for a gig tonight...

― CharlieNo4, Sunday, 26 August 2007 15:02 (eighteen years ago)

three months pass...

Apparently TOMBOT THE MENTALIST hates "Pacific"!

― HI DERE, Monday, 10 December 2007 22:46 (eighteen years ago)

That's like hating oxygen.

― Alex in NYC, Monday, 10 December 2007 22:57 (eighteen years ago)

when I compared it to the OG mixes of Strings Of Life it should probably be noted that both these tracks are things I was reading about online and in magazines before I actually acquired my own copies to listen to - sort of like with SAWII, there was this massive hype revolving around the tracks, then I heard them, and was like "lol what, I guess this is the problem of being into dance music but not having access to a big druggy club scene or something"

― El Tomboto, Monday, 10 December 2007 23:03 (eighteen years ago)

I read an article about 808 State in 1990 and bought Utd State 90 as a leap of faith. "Pacific 202" was an instant winner for me.

― HI DERE, Monday, 10 December 2007 23:05 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah with SoL and Pacific I was nearly a decade late to the party. Next to everything else I was getting at the time it was very "wtf nice keyboard presets, doofs"

― El Tomboto, Monday, 10 December 2007 23:06 (eighteen years ago)

They both probably directly inspired everything else you were getting at the time tho.

― blueski, Monday, 10 December 2007 23:55 (eighteen years ago)

btw i think the riff was played with a WX5 not bullshit sax

Massey mimes poorly/amusingly with it (or what looks like it) here

― blueski, Tuesday, 11 December 2007 00:05 (eighteen years ago)

yamaha's wind synth with the sax patch totally qualifies as "bullshit sax"

― El Tomboto, Tuesday, 11 December 2007 00:16 (eighteen years ago)

that youtube clip is amazing and great, though

― El Tomboto, Tuesday, 11 December 2007 00:20 (eighteen years ago)

Aren't they rereleasing all the early stuff?

Does this mean one ought to divest one of one's "Creed Records" (State 2, 3 & 4) collection?! sum nice wax dere.

― Saxby D. Elder, Tuesday, 11 December 2007 00:54 (eighteen years ago)

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I got Gorgeous and Orbital Green right around the same time. Still think Gorgeous is the better album. Belfast is the best thing on either but i'd rather listen to Gorgeous than Green.

― brotherlovesdub, Tuesday, 18 January 2011 22:44 (fifteen years ago)

xp i'm sure lots of ppl are impressed by yr impeccable taste but "clowntown" doesn't need you

― =(^ • ‿‿ • ^)= (corey), Tuesday, 18 January 2011 23:10 (fifteen years ago)

one year passes...

why did I wait until today to listen to Outpost Transmission

I mean, it does have many of the problems of latter-day 808 State re: trend-chasing and a sense of lost vitality, but there is still a good chunk of beauty to be found there (a la "Long Orange (Testa)")

― I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:18 (fourteen years ago)

two months pass...

http://open.spotify.com/user/djperry1973/playlist/5dRSDZ9YttPxipG4LwjGcY

I made a playlist of the Utd. State 90 track list since the album doesn't exist in that form on Spotify

― God, Music and Romeo and Juliet (DJP), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 21:28 (fourteen years ago)

six months pass...

you know what track gets constantly underrated, is "Cobra Bora"

― The Owls of Ja Rule (DJP), Thursday, 11 October 2012 15:11 (thirteen years ago)

two years pass...

Oof. Darren Partington has been jailed and the whole thing sounds atrocious.

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/former-808-state-dj-locked-8409159#ICID=sharebar_twitter

― Ned Raggett, Friday, 9 January 2015 00:26 (eleven years ago)

Holy shit! :/

― You’re being too simplistic and you’re insulting my poor heart (Turrican), Friday, 9 January 2015 22:11 (eleven years ago)

one year passes...

tried listening to Newbuild in the car this morning and I used to love it SO MUCH but my gosh does it just sound like a bunch of noodley sketches w/o any actual songs. It's like an album made entirely of deluxe-edition bonus track demos.

― police patrol felt the smell of smoke and found that goat burns (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 20 January 2016 20:52 (ten years ago)

I've never really gotten into Newbuild in and of itself; Utd State 90 served as a much better entry point into their world for me

― its subtle brume (DJP), Wednesday, 20 January 2016 21:06 (ten years ago)

otm, that and even Quadrastate

― police patrol felt the smell of smoke and found that goat burns (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 20 January 2016 21:23 (ten years ago)

Quadrastate the near mythical sweet spot b/w Newbuild and Ninety IMO.

― Tim F, Wednesday, 20 January 2016 21:25 (ten years ago)

DJP did you ever hear this? omg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfM-BsBhmhw

― police patrol felt the smell of smoke and found that goat burns (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 20 January 2016 21:26 (ten years ago)

three years pass...

this new 808 State album really feelin like one of those fake leaks you'd get on Kazaa back in the day

― frogbs, Wednesday, 23 October 2019 19:29 (six years ago)

Wasn't aware there was a new one. Will have to investigate, despite your discouraging (but likely accurate) description. Coincidentally, I pulled out he Cubik 12" last week and remembered how much I liked it.

― Paul Ponzi, Wednesday, 23 October 2019 19:52 (six years ago)

one year passes...

They're finally putting all of the old singles with b-sides and mixes on Spotify and it's fucking glorious

"Open Your Mind (Open Mix)" for example: https://open.spotify.com/track/2doL5gTiCITQaMPIYfwUjV?si=oFksJTmsSI-rwVZ88MSg1w

― 80's hair metal , and good praise music ! (DJP), Friday, 16 April 2021 14:25 (five years ago)

omg omg omg

― Warmed Regards, (Stevie D(eux)), Friday, 16 April 2021 16:01 (five years ago)

It's been so patchy with them! For a while the 2CD deluxe editions were all on there, and then suddenly they weren't

― Warmed Regards, (Stevie D(eux)), Friday, 16 April 2021 16:02 (five years ago)

two months pass...

also Don Solaris is massively underrated
― Indolence Mission (DJP), Tuesday, January 18, 2011 3:57 PM bookmarkflaglink

I would like to point out that I was OTM in this thread

― an eco-conscious Music Box (DJP), Thursday, 24 June 2021 14:51 (four years ago)

Black Dartangnon is so dreamy I could listen to it forever

― Diggin Holes (Ste), Thursday, 24 June 2021 15:04 (four years ago)

i pretty much like everything they did up to gorgeous where i actually started with them and they pretty much lost me afterwards!

― xzanfar, Thursday, 24 June 2021 15:36 (four years ago)

four months pass...

Its with a heavy heart to inform you of the passing of Andrew Barker . "His family and friends asks that people respect their privacy at this time but remember him for the joy he brought through his personality and music. You’ll be sadly missed” pic.twitter.com/cPR8W3byJl
— 808 State (@state808) November 7, 2021

― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Sunday, 7 November 2021 15:01 (four years ago)

i gave don solaris another chance for andrews sake but after the 20th listen now it is pretty much garbage but bond and azura are ok but that is not saying much!

― xzanfar, Sunday, 7 November 2021 19:29 (four years ago)

classy post

― Paul Ponzi, Sunday, 7 November 2021 19:57 (four years ago)

now i am listening to prebuild most is poor quality!

― xzanfar, Monday, 8 November 2021 00:29 (four years ago)

newbuild is fantastic though.

― toxic psycho "gifted child" asshole (RobbiePires), Monday, 8 November 2021 00:30 (four years ago)

not sure why rephlex put that out, newbuild is a perfectly formed document, all killer no filler. prebuild just sounds like outtakes, and it should have stayed that way. Curious enough for die hard acid heads like myself, but for historical purposes.

― toxic psycho "gifted child" asshole (RobbiePires), Monday, 8 November 2021 00:36 (four years ago)

yes everything from newbuild to gorgeous is great!

― xzanfar, Monday, 8 November 2021 00:36 (four years ago)

utd state 90 is the best after newbuild before exel

― xzanfar, Monday, 8 November 2021 00:42 (four years ago)

sad news. he used to work in eastern bloc in manchester circa 1990 when he was half of the spinmasters dj crew with darren partington. i used to buy records over the phone from eastern bloc. i'd phone up once a week and he'd play the latest belgian imports over the phone and i'd buy some, which nowadays seems an insane way to do record shopping. anyway, he was a lovely guy and would always refer to a particularly great belgian techno 12" as a "stormtrooper". i always got a kick out of that. gone too soon!

― stirmonster, Monday, 8 November 2021 02:40 (four years ago)

I saw them supported by K Klass and MC Tunes at Sheffield Octagon in '90 and was tripping at the time and it was a fun stupid night. Never really rated them that highly tbh but that memory was good!

― calzino, Monday, 8 November 2021 03:27 (four years ago)

Love that, stirmonster

They just finished a short UK tour as well. FFS only 53

― nashwan, Monday, 8 November 2021 09:33 (four years ago)

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