― N., Monday, 11 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
The band they assembled for that "DSMD" looks even crazier on video.
― Tim, Thursday, 14 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Ondes Martinot, Thursday, 14 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
That's the greatest start to a post in history.
― Ally, Thursday, 14 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
"were just human and were just putting human feelings across"
not his words exactly but they looked right this way.
― del a robbo, Thursday, 2 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
DUD
― Rockist Scientist, Thursday, 21 November 2002 18:38 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 21 November 2002 18:44 (twenty-one years ago) link
― joan vich (joan vich), Thursday, 21 November 2002 19:34 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Aaron W, Thursday, 21 November 2002 19:46 (twenty-one years ago) link
thisreminds of the subway sect thread where pinefox dismissed them on one song.
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Thursday, 21 November 2002 22:30 (twenty-one years ago) link
― mark s (mark s), Thursday, 21 November 2002 22:35 (twenty-one years ago) link
I hate bands with clever names. They should have names that aren't trying to be clever at all, like Ray Gae & Skadorfis Skadorfis Skadorfis Skadorfis (featuring members of mid-90's ska stars, Orafice Skadorafice).
― Helltime Producto (Pavlik), Thursday, 21 November 2002 22:38 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Thursday, 21 November 2002 22:54 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Rockist Scientist, Thursday, 21 November 2002 22:59 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Tom (Groke), Thursday, 21 November 2002 23:57 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Aaron W, Friday, 22 November 2002 00:18 (twenty-one years ago) link
I think for precisely the Soul/Stax/Northern Soul influences cited by Dr. C, 1980s Americans wouldn't have found Dexy's accessible because of the soul influences but in spite of them. Americans don't have the same tradition of Blue Eyed Northern Soul as the British (we have the original) -- I have always been curious about Nothern Soul, actually. What is it?
Dexy's only made sense to me in the context of British post-punk -- artists like the Jam, Secret Affair, Magazine -- because Kevin's Rowland's vocals and attitude make the overall effect come off more like the Boomtown Rats than conventional soul artists. He sounds more angry than hurt. 1980s American angry was more along the lines of JFA and the DKs and, you know, so Dexy's wouldn't necessarily appeal to that audience, either. And Dexy's do the weird, 2-part song thing that we American's don't usually understand (like in "Geno," the Jams's "Little Boy Soldiers;" Queen's "Bohemian Rhapsody" . . . ) Ok there are exceptions, but it usually presents a major stumbling block.
Classic, by the way. I never, ever, ever tire of of Don't Stand Me Down. I think 25% of my ILM posts mention it.
(Here is where I can put in my plug for Kevin's solo album "The Wanderer" --no, not that horrible covers record from a couple years ago but a county and western album from 1988 or so. Has anyone on the face of this earth besides me ever heard it?)
― felicity (felicity), Friday, 22 November 2002 02:45 (twenty-one years ago) link
I was just listening to this right now, being as I'm listening to Too-Rye-Ay, and now my memory of this song is the exultant sing/dance/shoutalong to it at the ending of Tom E's wedding FAP in London last October -- and Mike Daddino dancing on a chair to boot.
Yeah, pretty damn classic.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 7 June 2004 19:12 (twenty years ago) link
― cozen (Cozen), Monday, 7 June 2004 20:54 (twenty years ago) link
― El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Monday, 7 June 2004 21:43 (twenty years ago) link
I can essentially stand by what I and the lovely Msrk S said.
A question unanswered here is: why do Geezers love Dexy's?
― the junefox, Monday, 7 June 2004 21:48 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 7 June 2004 21:54 (twenty years ago) link
Classic - Come on Eileen is one of the greatest pop songs ever written, and each of their albums is my favourite in a different way. If forced I might opt for Don't Stand Me Down as their masterpiece, but that's only because it's the last one I listened to. One of my favourite bands...
― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Monday, 7 June 2004 23:06 (twenty years ago) link
New Dexys album in 2012. Involves Mick Talbot.
http://thequietus.com/articles/06562-new-dexys-album-in-2012
― Alba, Monday, 11 July 2011 00:51 (twelve years ago) link
Obviously there's been talk of this before but it feels like something might actually be occurring this time...
― Rebekah Brooks Ate My Country (Doran), Monday, 11 July 2011 00:53 (twelve years ago) link
Kind of extcited and very nervous for this. I did like the two new songs on the best of and that demo they put on Myspace a few yeas ago was pretty cool so I'm hoping this will of a similar quality. The reunion show I saw them do in 2003 was the best gig I've ever been to, so much love for this band.
― Kitchen Person, Monday, 11 July 2011 01:01 (twelve years ago) link
Guitarist is this fellow:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neil_Hubbard
Seems like quite a lineup.
― timellison, Monday, 11 July 2011 01:09 (twelve years ago) link
http://new.assets.thequietus.com/images/articles/6562/kev_1310344176_crop_420x300.jpghttp://www.boxofficefootball.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/Arshavin-Meerkat.jpg
― Mark G, Monday, 11 July 2011 10:24 (twelve years ago) link
"Here is the influence "Don't Stand Me Down" had on the course of popular music.
None whatsoever.
You are all stupid scum and deserve to die, but that's another story."
http://www.hungoverdrawn.co.uk/dexys/03.html
― piscesx, Tuesday, 12 July 2011 01:16 (twelve years ago) link
only the plinth remains.
― Mark G, Tuesday, 12 July 2011 08:22 (twelve years ago) link
Chris Roberts all over the MFing money
― Everyday is a Whining Choad (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 08:27 (twelve years ago) link
Dug this out last week (I took a long time to find the DVD edition when I bought it. It should have been made obligatory)
The improvements (missing tracks added, general sonic improvements) and the fact that there were at least two singles that should have been issued, means that this was designed by KRowland to be a 'neglected masterpiece'.
As it was, the LP version was dominated by the conversational bits. It needed more songs, and now it has them.
― Mark G, Tuesday, 12 July 2011 08:31 (twelve years ago) link
At the moment, I am listening to "The Projected Passion Revue" on Spotify, I recommend this.
― Mark G, Tuesday, 12 July 2011 08:36 (twelve years ago) link
wd have to listen to it separately, i will never contradict K. Rowland's decisions on anything
― Everyday is a Whining Choad (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 08:37 (twelve years ago) link
Well, he decided it should come out, so yeh.
― Mark G, Tuesday, 12 July 2011 08:39 (twelve years ago) link
As it was, the LP version was dominated by the conversational bits. It needed more songs
I dont agree with this at all.
― Tim, Tuesday, 12 July 2011 09:24 (twelve years ago) link
Well, that's how it seemed to me at the time.
(Yeah, that does read a bit Geirlike: purely my opinion there, probably should have played it more at the time.)
.. buat having "Kev Rowl's 13th dream" opening it now makes so much more sense, why did they not have it there in the first place? Running time issues?
― Mark G, Tuesday, 12 July 2011 09:27 (twelve years ago) link
BECAUSE IT'S PERFECT AS ORIGINALLY RELEASED
― Everyday is a Whining Choad (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 09:41 (twelve years ago) link
otm, 13th Dream a huge opener. Occasional Flicker makes sense, sort of, as statement of intent, but it's slow burn.
Quietus article mentions it, but in case Londoners do not know, Rowland DJing at How does It Feel on Saturday. I enjoyed it last time - he plays some 70s soul, sings along a bit (led crowd in acapella continuation of 'Let's Go Round Again'), generally A Good Time (though I spent large part of evening working myself up to say thank you for all the music, meant a lot to me etc etc to him). Will try to get along, but may have to persuade girlfriend. Not her crowd.
― you don't exist in the database (woof), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 09:45 (twelve years ago) link
sorry xp otm, nv offtm
how often does he do this?
― thomp, Tuesday, 12 July 2011 09:48 (twelve years ago) link
once every couple of years I think. This is the third time.
― you don't exist in the database (woof), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 09:51 (twelve years ago) link
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/c/c1/Dexys_Midnight_Runners_Don%27t_Stand_Me_Down_Director%27s_Cut.jpg/220px-Dexys_Midnight_Runners_Don%27t_Stand_Me_Down_Director%27s_Cut.jpg http://www.strikeforce.com/imagesprites/vs.png http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/3/31/Dexys_Midnight_Runners_Don%27t_Stand_Me_Down.jpg/220px-Dexys_Midnight_Runners_Don%27t_Stand_Me_Down.jpg
― Mark G, Tuesday, 12 July 2011 09:56 (twelve years ago) link
maybe in two years i'll go
er, the director's cut looks way better at cd size, the original only works at vinyl size, so y'know
― thomp, Tuesday, 12 July 2011 09:57 (twelve years ago) link
only saw the 12 minute This Is What She's Like Video (dailymotion + adverts, couldn't find a full youtube, soz) a few months ago – really show how great that look is/was.
― you don't exist in the database (woof), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 10:13 (twelve years ago) link
The CD+DVD version sold for around £10 recently on ebay.
There's two on there now, but for £84 or £40, maybe waiting would be best...
― Mark G, Tuesday, 12 July 2011 10:16 (twelve years ago) link
I always thought the Creation issue was just fine. The "poor mastering" or whatever always struck me as total revisionist horseshit, an outgrowth of KR's tendency toward self-loathing (just as the "MY DEAR FRIEND VINCENT CRANE, RIP" stuff on the original DSMD reissue seemed way over the top in retrospect -- probably had more to do with the fact that the dude died and struggled with manic depression all his life than the fact that he was one of Kev's soul brothers).
Love the guy, but he's not the guy I go to for a strict accounting of the past.
― Naive Teen Idol, Tuesday, 12 July 2011 21:11 (twelve years ago) link
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6016/5931169483_b81253c34d_b.jpg
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6027/5931732896_f3f588d26d_z.jpg
― Colin Allstations (PaulTMA), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 21:39 (twelve years ago) link
KR looks like Alan Partridge in the pic from the opened-up booklet
― And we were wearing a lot of athletic shorts. (jamescobo), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 22:12 (twelve years ago) link
I've always loved Don't Stand Me Down but the Director's Cut made it an even better album for me. Kevin Rowland's 13th Time works so much better as an opener than The Occasional Flicker. I seem to remember in the sleeve notes Kevin said he didn't want it on the original issue as he thought some of the drums were slightly out of time, didn't hear it myself. Not many moments in songs make me smile as much as him telling his joke half way through the song, especially the other band members reactions.
The DVD is essential, This Is What She's Like is so much fun but it's the performance of Listen To This that sums up just why I love them so much.
― Kitchen Person, Tuesday, 12 July 2011 22:20 (twelve years ago) link
It just gets stranger and stranger.In G2 today, a confused piece by Barney Hoskyns about Southern rock (i.e. Allmans, Skynyrd) which basically says that Southern rock is great but actually it's not because of the area's history of racism. Great logical thinking there.I don't get either why the Grauniad has suddenly decided to have a downer on Amazon. Lots of drivel both in print and on the website about poor benighted booksellers being put out of business by Amazon, it stops new writers coming through EXCUSE ME! Haven't I had a book out for the best part of a year? And who is stocking it in their shops? Precisely one in central London and it's not just me either - all you see when you go into Waterstones is the same old bullshit, celebrity kitchen nightmares and lots of loss-leader discounts. Take away the discounts and you have Daunt Books. Whereas Amazon actually stocks my book and that's where nearly all my sales have come from. If places like Waterstones were serious they'd tell their Finance & Marketing departments to go take a hike and actually take chances on stocking books by new or unknown writers. Rave reviews in The Wire and Mojo, called the best music book of 2011 in the Telegraph of all places - but none of that means anything to the chains - finance say shit, Waterstones jump on the shovel.So I don't actually give a toss about how much tax Amazon are or aren't paying; they sell new writers, and bookshops do not, and until that changes bookshops have no right to have a go because they should be doing a hell of a lot more for the likes of us.
In G2 today, a confused piece by Barney Hoskyns about Southern rock (i.e. Allmans, Skynyrd) which basically says that Southern rock is great but actually it's not because of the area's history of racism. Great logical thinking there.
I don't get either why the Grauniad has suddenly decided to have a downer on Amazon. Lots of drivel both in print and on the website about poor benighted booksellers being put out of business by Amazon, it stops new writers coming through EXCUSE ME! Haven't I had a book out for the best part of a year? And who is stocking it in their shops? Precisely one in central London and it's not just me either - all you see when you go into Waterstones is the same old bullshit, celebrity kitchen nightmares and lots of loss-leader discounts. Take away the discounts and you have Daunt Books. Whereas Amazon actually stocks my book and that's where nearly all my sales have come from. If places like Waterstones were serious they'd tell their Finance & Marketing departments to go take a hike and actually take chances on stocking books by new or unknown writers. Rave reviews in The Wire and Mojo, called the best music book of 2011 in the Telegraph of all places - but none of that means anything to the chains - finance say shit, Waterstones jump on the shovel.
So I don't actually give a toss about how much tax Amazon are or aren't paying; they sell new writers, and bookshops do not, and until that changes bookshops have no right to have a go because they should be doing a hell of a lot more for the likes of us.
― Tim, Saturday, 5 May 2012 22:48 (twelve years ago) link
Wurgh? I don't know what happened there, some strangeness with my phone - It seems to have quoted some text by Marcello on a thread from a while back. Sorry about that.
ANYWAY I've lived with "One Day I'll Soar" for a week or two now and it has grown on me as much as - more than - I'd hoped. It sounds like Dexys, which is a great start. It's closest in feel to "Don't Stand Me Down" but there are some delicious flavours of classy '70s soul: some WIllie Mitchell feeling here, some Philly business there. Like DSMD it doesn't have anything as hooky as "Come On Eileen" or "Geno" but the songs insinuate themselves very nicely. As ever with Dexys, you wind up feeling you have learned quite a lot about Kevin, sometimes maybe too much, but I find there are quite a number of laugh-out-loud moments on here too.
I adore the thing he does with the in-song conversations, and I don't know of anyone who does anything even vaguely similar. Do you?
I am now extremely excited about seeing them play the whole thing on Tuesday, especially with Nate's positive report here.
― Tim, Sunday, 6 May 2012 07:07 (twelve years ago) link
Sorry I didn't reply. The new songs really were great, although the un-song conversations were a bit strange to see live - KR leaning on the other guy's shoulder and whispering in his ear; singing to pictures of a girl projected onto a screen, and then acting out scenes with the same girl later on.
Also, seeing them play an extended version of Come On Eileen made me appreciate what a great song it really is. Overplayed to death, but actually a brilliant song.
― nate woolls, Sunday, 6 May 2012 08:35 (twelve years ago) link
Blatant self-promotion post but my 7000 word, 12-page interview/feature on Dexys is the cover story in the new Uncut.
http://www.uncut.co.uk/sites/default/files/imagecache/magazine_small/2012/04/u181-uncut-cover-uk-crop.jpg
Still only £4.80!
― Stevie T, Sunday, 6 May 2012 09:35 (twelve years ago) link
Tim, so glad to hear the new album is strong. Really can't think of anyone else that does the conversations in the same way, it's what makes Don't Stand Me Down such an incredible album. Is the new album out there now or do you have a promo copy?
Nate, I saw them on the 2003 tour and they did lots of strange skits and lots of banter during the songs. It was without doubt the strangest and best gig I've ever been to. I won't be able to catch them this time unfortunately but would love to see them again. I totally agree with your thoughts on Come On Eileen, it's so overplayed and not one of my favourite Dexys songs at all but when they played it, it was so great and seeing the reaction it got was really something. I think I've appreciated the song a lot more since.
Steve, I just bought Uncut yesterday (saving it for a long flight next week) It's the first music magazine I've bought in ages. Really looking forward to reading the article.
― Kitchen Person, Sunday, 6 May 2012 10:44 (twelve years ago) link
I got lucky with a promo - it's out at the start of June I believe.
― Tim, Monday, 7 May 2012 10:01 (twelve years ago) link
new album http://open.spotify.com/album/2g7CqCHV0BEbWa2FgnTGWN
― it looks like something rupert the bear would wear (Algerian Goalkeeper), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 18:32 (twelve years ago) link
I really enjoyed it
This is brilliant. I'm so relieved.
― Kitchen Person, Tuesday, 5 June 2012 21:23 (twelve years ago) link
im listening to it again right now funnily enough
― it looks like something rupert the bear would wear (Algerian Goalkeeper), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 21:28 (twelve years ago) link
This tour came to Australia for two theatre shows last week. It was ridiculously, heart-swellingly great.
― ( ͡° ͜ʖ͡°) (sic), Tuesday, 20 November 2012 02:08 (eleven years ago) link
People of a certain age will connect as deeply to this as I did to the records-over-the-phone sequence in The Virgin Suicides.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRyheUEkHuA
― clemenza, Tuesday, 20 November 2012 03:35 (eleven years ago) link
This. I don't think I've ever had so much *fun* at any type of show/concert ever.
― After Cease To Exist Button (King Boy Pato), Tuesday, 20 November 2012 10:01 (eleven years ago) link
I have just:
a) bought my tickets for the Duke of York's residency
b) Listened to Projected Passion Revue & thumped a wall in excitement harder than I intended at moment where Soon goes into Plan B.
Excited, knuckles hurt slightly, can't wait till April.
― woof, Tuesday, 19 March 2013 21:38 (eleven years ago) link
Going in I was a bit unsure about the new album & wondering whether my head was in the right place for latest part of the journey of K Rowland, but that was spectacular, an amazing evening. Really really fun, charming & the band are in great shape. Cathartic.
obvs highlight was This is What's She's Like, but Old – 'I'm getting old! What can I do? Absolutely nothing!' - was immense.
― woof, Thursday, 25 April 2013 10:23 (eleven years ago) link
Sounds great, wish I could have gone to see them this time round. The show I saw them do in 2003 was maybe the best gig I've ever seen.
― Kitchen Person, Thursday, 25 April 2013 11:06 (eleven years ago) link
I saw them in 2003 too - I don't think it was quite up there with that, but haha yeah that's a v high bar, those shows were something else.
― woof, Thursday, 25 April 2013 11:31 (eleven years ago) link
I went there not really knowing what to expect, just thought they would be doing a straight forward hits set I guess. I did not expect all the sketches and little details they added to those songs. It was funny, moving and just ridiculous at times. This Is What She's Like (like you said) was the big highlight for me but really the setlist was perfect. Love this band so much.
― Kitchen Person, Thursday, 25 April 2013 11:37 (eleven years ago) link
yeah, this has a lot of those same elements - drama, intensity, self-mockery - & carried some bits over - like the 'how can I stop the burning?' Kev/Pete-as-Policeman routine (which was amazing again).
― woof, Thursday, 25 April 2013 11:48 (eleven years ago) link
Haha, yeah that bit was amazing! I really love the album and would have liked to see it performed live but sadly I'm travelling in New Zealand and think by the time I get back to the UK the tour might be over.
― Kitchen Person, Thursday, 25 April 2013 12:01 (eleven years ago) link
& something I only saw recently - 9 minute Too-Rye-Ay era rework of There, There My Dear, w/ press-ups. So good:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SQ1lHZP0es
― woof, Thursday, 25 April 2013 13:13 (eleven years ago) link
just didn't realise they were playing the roundhouse on Friday, think I might go again. Interested to see:
Sadly, Madeleine Hyland is unable to do the shows, but we are delighted that Siobhan Fahey will step in to play the female role. We’re sad that Maddy isn’t with us, but really feel good about Siobhan’s involvement.
― woof, Monday, 23 June 2014 15:19 (nine years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5tDsR52Yjk#t=10.678776
This 1980 live recording shows a British "soul" band. The singer, Kevin Rowland, cries out his frustration being an Irishman living in England
― woof, Sunday, 22 May 2016 01:16 (eight years ago) link
whoa that there there my dear video is awesome!
― new noise, Sunday, 22 May 2016 01:47 (eight years ago) link
YES it is
― woof, Sunday, 22 May 2016 02:02 (eight years ago) link
at this point, I'll do some press-ups
― woof, Sunday, 22 May 2016 02:12 (eight years ago) link
STOP
GO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmMPQ8H-ioo
Taken from the album Let The Record Show: DEXYS DO IRISH AND COUNTRY SOUL
― small doug yule carnival club (unregistered), Monday, 23 May 2016 02:49 (eight years ago) link
Rowland DJing at How Does It Feel again in April:https://www.howdoesitfeel.co.uk/hdifkevin.htmlI missed the last one, but (as per me above) have been a couple of times and it is great fun.
― woof, Tuesday, 7 March 2017 13:31 (seven years ago) link
spanning from Toots And The Maytals and David Bowie to T Rex and the Stooges, Kevin also sang along with some of the songs, making the night more like an intimate gig than a regular club.
I'm guessing he might get a bit more obscure in his choices than that, but sounds like fun anyway
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 8 March 2017 19:16 (seven years ago) link
That's a draft lyric for the first verse of "Come On Eileen"
― Mark G, Wednesday, 8 March 2017 22:34 (seven years ago) link