I think some would say the inclusion of "Balloon" on the US version of Catherine Wheel's Ferment is a plus. Personally, I like having that slowed down version of "Love und Romance" and the excellent cover of "I Heard It Through the Grapevine" on Cut and for me it improves the album half of a star.
― Quit glaring at Ian Riese-Moraine! He's mentally fraught! (Eastern Mantra), Saturday, 19 March 2005 02:47 (nineteen years ago) link
― Quit glaring at Ian Riese-Moraine! He's mentally fraught! (Eastern Mantra), Saturday, 19 March 2005 02:49 (nineteen years ago) link
I really enjoyed hearing the 'Buff Manilla' ep I'd never heard of appended to 'Wilder' (which is my favourite Teardrop album already).
― I.M. (I.M.), Saturday, 19 March 2005 06:00 (nineteen years ago) link
― Josh in Chicago (Josh in Chicago), Saturday, 19 March 2005 06:36 (nineteen years ago) link
I actually really appreciate the bonus tracks on Stranglers' La Folie. Normally bonus tracks tend to irritate me a little. Comsat Angels bonus tracks are another excellent exception to this.
― Bimble... (Bimble...), Saturday, 19 March 2005 06:42 (nineteen years ago) link
― Bimble... (Bimble...), Saturday, 19 March 2005 06:43 (nineteen years ago) link
― Mickey (modestmickey), Saturday, 19 March 2005 06:51 (nineteen years ago) link
― Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Saturday, 19 March 2005 09:35 (nineteen years ago) link
Galaxie 500 - On Fire has bonus tracks that will rock your socks. All three are covers: New Order, "Ceremony"... Red Krayola, "Victory Garden"... George Harrison, "Isn't It a Pity"... Brilliante. Brilliante.
― poortheatre (poortheatre), Saturday, 19 March 2005 09:38 (nineteen years ago) link
― Deluxe (Damian), Saturday, 19 March 2005 11:46 (nineteen years ago) link
― Bimble... (Bimble...), Saturday, 19 March 2005 11:49 (nineteen years ago) link
― Bimble... (Bimble...), Saturday, 19 March 2005 11:50 (nineteen years ago) link
― alex in mainhattan (alex63), Saturday, 19 March 2005 12:09 (nineteen years ago) link
― alex in mainhattan (alex63), Saturday, 19 March 2005 12:13 (nineteen years ago) link
― jermaine (jnoble), Saturday, 19 March 2005 13:09 (nineteen years ago) link
One of their albums contained about 5 minutes of samples as a bonus track. And another contained specially made tunes for Beverley Hills 90210 and Neverending Story part 3- the quality of which are about 1000% better than the rest of the album........... Why is everyone looking at me like that????
(runs to avoid gunshots)
― JTS, Saturday, 19 March 2005 13:45 (nineteen years ago) link
TX's Wilder definitely seconded. That's what I was trying to think of in the first place. "East of the Equator" is the greatest song title ever.
― Quit glaring at Ian Riese-Moraine! He's mentally fraught! (Eastern Mantra), Saturday, 19 March 2005 15:19 (nineteen years ago) link
― mzui (mzui), Saturday, 19 March 2005 19:30 (nineteen years ago) link
― pop, Saturday, 19 March 2005 23:22 (nineteen years ago) link
― cozen (Cozen), Saturday, 19 March 2005 23:26 (nineteen years ago) link
Well, "Isn't It a Pity" was the lovely conclusion to the original LP. The third b-side bonus track is an original which I can never remember anything about. All of the covers are exemplary though, yessir! : )
< /pedantry >
― Nag! Nag! Nag! (Nag! Nag! Nag!), Saturday, 19 March 2005 23:35 (nineteen years ago) link
Vigorously seconded! They could even have reprised "John Riley" on the original with that jammy instrumental version. Better than "The Learjet Song" anyway.
Actually, pretty much ALL of those Byrds reissues add exceptional stuff.
― Nag! Nag! Nag! (Nag! Nag! Nag!), Sunday, 20 March 2005 00:19 (nineteen years ago) link
― o. nate (onate), Sunday, 20 March 2005 00:22 (nineteen years ago) link
― Let's keep the afterbirth and throw Ian Riese-Moraine away! (Eastern Mantra), Sunday, 20 March 2005 12:53 (nineteen years ago) link
― Let's keep the afterbirth and throw Ian Riese-Moraine away! (Eastern Mantra), Sunday, 20 March 2005 12:55 (nineteen years ago) link
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Sunday, 20 March 2005 15:43 (nineteen years ago) link
― Mr. Snrub, Sunday, 20 March 2005 17:26 (nineteen years ago) link
Me too! Geir thirded. Normally I have bonus tracks - I wish they'd put them on an extra disk, like the Fleetwood Mac reissues
― Robin Goad (rgoad), Monday, 21 March 2005 15:25 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ken L (Ken L), Monday, 21 March 2005 15:27 (nineteen years ago) link
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 21 March 2005 20:14 (nineteen years ago) link
― Jessie the Monster (scarymonsterrr), Monday, 21 March 2005 20:20 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ken L (Ken L), Monday, 21 March 2005 20:22 (nineteen years ago) link
― Eisbär (llamasfur), Monday, 21 March 2005 20:31 (nineteen years ago) link
― jichael mackson, Tuesday, 22 March 2005 11:24 (nineteen years ago) link
Admittedly I often find dub versions to be superior to the originals.
― Ian Riese-Moraine. Sweeter than a lorry load of white Toblerones. (Eastern Mantr, Tuesday, 22 March 2005 14:50 (nineteen years ago) link
― Keith C (lync0), Thursday, 1 June 2006 23:36 (eighteen years ago) link
― Emily B (Emily B), Friday, 2 June 2006 00:02 (eighteen years ago) link
According to AMG, the Japanese import CD has "bonus tracks" as well, but I don't know what they are...
― Doctor Casino (Doctor Casino), Friday, 2 June 2006 02:50 (eighteen years ago) link
― tremendoid (tremendoid), Friday, 2 June 2006 03:07 (eighteen years ago) link
― Myke. (Myke Weiskopf), Friday, 2 June 2006 03:11 (eighteen years ago) link
― timmy tannin (pompous), Friday, 2 June 2006 03:20 (eighteen years ago) link
― Suzy Creemcheese (SuzyCreemcheese), Friday, 2 June 2006 03:28 (eighteen years ago) link
― electric sound of jim (and why not) (electricsound), Friday, 2 June 2006 03:41 (eighteen years ago) link
― nicky lo-fi (nicky lo-fi), Friday, 2 June 2006 04:23 (eighteen years ago) link
Even the first version of the CD added "When I Needed You" which is one of their best ever B-sides.
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Friday, 2 June 2006 09:16 (eighteen years ago) link
Wire's "ManScape" has more tracks on than the LP version. Including the 'title track' "Life in the Manscape" which is the lead/single...
Hmm, what else.
― mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 2 June 2006 09:23 (eighteen years ago) link
― Max Blazevic (kitaj), Friday, 2 June 2006 10:07 (eighteen years ago) link
― James, Friday, 2 June 2006 13:20 (eighteen years ago) link
Generally, there's loads of cool bonus tracks on jazz rereleases, but usually they're just alternate takes that it's hard to get all that excited about, so they don't really feel like they improve the "album" as such.
― Øystein (Øystein), Friday, 2 June 2006 13:38 (eighteen years ago) link
hermeto pascoal's "slaves mass" on the warners 2000s reissue adds 35 mins of noodling brazilian funk jamz
― massaman gai (front tea for two), Tuesday, 18 January 2022 20:21 (two years ago) link
I always loved that the CD version of Feel The Fire by Overkill included their version of the Dead Boys' "Sonic Reducer."
― Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Tuesday, 18 January 2022 20:29 (two years ago) link
I actually prefer Rumours without "Silver Springs." (I have that track on a separate CD-R. IIRC every A-side + "Silver Springs" from the 1975-1987 Buckingham-Nicks era fills up exactly one CD.) Rumours has a perfect but delicate balance of pop and rock elements where they either pair up or fuse the glossier pop elements to edgier, more daring ideas. I tried the reissue with "Silver Springs" and it felt like it tipped the balance a little too much into schmaltz. Somehow it plays better for me with the hits, maybe because expectations are different like when you're listening to top 40 (or classic rock) radio and you kind of expect the occasional schmaltz.
― birdistheword
otm
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 18 January 2022 20:31 (two years ago) link
xp
https://www.discogs.com/release/2831232-Big-Star-Third-Test-Pressing-Edition
assuming it's this one yr referring to? It's the edition I have also.
― Western® with Bacon Flavor, Monday, January 17, 2022 6:17 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
cool thanks! was having trouble finding it
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 18 January 2022 20:32 (two years ago) link
London Calling
― jimbeaux, Tuesday, 18 January 2022 20:32 (two years ago) link
does that one count? I thought Train in Vain was on all versions of the album, just unlisted
― frogbs, Tuesday, 18 January 2022 20:36 (two years ago) link
Yeah London Calling is what I'd call a hidden track (always on the original pressing) not a bonus track (added later to sweeten a reissue or just seamlessly improve the album).
Side topic, but I gotta say, Magical Mystery Tour not being available streaming/cd/vinyl reissue in its correct track list order is pretty unfortunate if you believe in the intentions of the artist over the producer. If the Beatles were displeased with the US LP, at some point someone should have done something to reissue it properly. The way to go would be to combine the 6 tracks in the original EP order (Magical / Mother / Walrus / Fool / Flying / Blue Jay) with the 1967-68 projected EP of Yellow Submarine tracks (Northern Song / Bulldog / Across the Universe '68 / All Together Now / It's All Too Much) that is superior to allowing George Martin's annoying orchestrations take up half of a Beatles lp. Tough question whether to include Across the Universe on such a reissue, to retain the original idea of that EP, or omit it as that would be somewhat redundant with the version on Let It Be... but then if i'm giving myself free reign here i'd leave Across the Universe on this "Magical Submarine" quadruple EP album, and make the Glyn Johns Get Back the canonical lp and call the McCartney/Spector Let It Be an alternate version.
Then you can rejigger Past Masters to make them flow better: Vol 1 could omit the german tracks (they belong on Anthology/Rarities vol whatever) and add Ain't She Sweet / Cry For A Shadow which should have been on there as they were nonlp songs that were previously released, and Vol 2 could gain the 5 1967 songs from side 2 of the MMT LP, and lose the alternate versions of LP tracks Universe, Let It Be, Revolution, Get Back, and Don't Let Me Down. And then balance the compilations by also moving Day Tripper / We Can Work It Out to disc 1, maybe reversing the order of those two to follow their actual labeling on the 7".
Whew ok, back to discussion of bonus tracks intruding on canonical LPs. I love how Tony The Pony totally upends the piteous wallowing of the last few Kill Uncle songs with a still mournful, yet far more sardonic and upbeat feeling. Typically, Morrissey's reissue ruined this. Also, in another example of Who Sell Out's "Bonus tracks from the session flow really well as a 3rd lp side", XTC's Mummer really benefits from the 6 bonus tracks, even the instrumentals, which seem to capture a sort of schizophrenic nature vs. technology feeling that swirls underneath most of the album thematically and musically.
― mig (guess that dreams always end), Tuesday, 18 January 2022 20:39 (two years ago) link
Yeah, it was a hidden track. I was never quite sure why they hid it, other than it does not really fit with the overall spirit and feel of the album (except maybe Lost in the Supermarket).
I can think of at least one album that was worsened by a bonus track: Crowded House's debut. Can't Carry On does not fit with, and is nowhere as good as, the rest of the album.
Also, changing the order of the tracks was a travesty.
Finally, get off my lawn.
― jimbeaux, Tuesday, 18 January 2022 20:42 (two years ago) link
Rhythm of the Saints
most of the Elvis Costello Rykodisc versions had completely awesome shit on the bonus disc. b-sides, demos, live stuff, unreleased alternate versions
― umami dearest (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 18 January 2022 20:45 (two years ago) link
Side topic, but I gotta say, Magical Mystery Tour not being available streaming/cd/vinyl reissue in its correct track list order is pretty unfortunate if you believe in the intentions of the artist over the producer....
The Beatles/Apple released this in the '90s: https://www.discogs.com/release/1852292-The-Beatles-Compact-Disc-EP-Collection
Supposedly mastered from the original EP master tapes, which in most cases were essentially production copies where they dubbed the individual tracks from the first-generation LP or 45 masters. However the EP only releases like Long Tall Sally and both the stereo AND mono versions of the MMT double EP are first-generation. Kind of an expensive way to get the original MMT on CD, but at least they did it!
Re: Let It Be/Get Back, there's waaaay too many versions of that music, ugh. I just need one, but I had to edit it together from various releases. The stuff I bypassed altogether were the super deluxe set from last year, the bootlegs (Anthology covered me with what I needed) and almost all of Let It Be...Naked (I only needed Preston's solo from "The Long and Winding Road," the only place to get it without McCartney vocalizing over it).
― birdistheword, Tuesday, 18 January 2022 20:58 (two years ago) link
xps "Train in Vain" was added to the album at the last minute, after the artwork had been printed.
― Kim Kimberly, Tuesday, 18 January 2022 21:03 (two years ago) link
not that anyone needs this opinion but the deluxe edition of blink-182's neighborhoods feels like a much more complete album than the standard
― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Tuesday, 18 January 2022 21:04 (two years ago) link
xp I did not know that, and I have been listening to that album since it came out. Our ignorance pre-Internet is almost shocking in hindsight.
― jimbeaux, Tuesday, 18 January 2022 21:05 (two years ago) link
Forgot two - Dylan's Shot of Love which added a much-needed "The Groom's Still Waiting at the Altar" and the US version of Band on the Run which added "Helen Wheels" (though I wished they dropped "No Words" in the process).
― birdistheword, Tuesday, 18 January 2022 21:06 (two years ago) link
Preston's solo from TLAWR? gonna have to look that up...
― Mark G, Tuesday, 18 January 2022 21:08 (two years ago) link
Yeah, it's the same take seen in the original Let It Be film (and in the Anthology TV documentary). On the earlier take used by Johns and Spector, Preston has no solo - instead, we hear Paul recite the chorus like a lounge singer. (The whole take is best heard on Anthology 3, without Johns's buckets of echo and without Spector's overdubs.) I think Johns and Spector used a better take based on Paul's vocal alone, but I don't like that one part and prefer Preston's electric piano solo in its place.
― birdistheword, Tuesday, 18 January 2022 21:13 (two years ago) link
*(The earlier take in its entirety is best heard on Anthology 3, without Johns's buckets of echo and without Spector's overdubs.)
― birdistheword, Tuesday, 18 January 2022 21:14 (two years ago) link
The changing track listing on Third has always mystified me, seeing as I was introduced to it via the Ryko order and can't imagine a better opening run than the one it proposed:
"Kizza Me" – 2:44"Thank You Friends" – 3:05"Big Black Car" – 3:35"Jesus Christ" – 2:37"Femme Fatale" – 3:28 (Lou Reed)"O, Dana" – 2:34
The only sequencing change I'd argue for on it would be to separate "Holocaust" and "Kanga Roo" but that might also be my own overexposure to those two songs in other contexts
― flamboyant goon tie included, Tuesday, 18 January 2022 21:31 (two years ago) link
"Stroke It, Noel" is such a moment of earnest respite in such an otherwise manic and bleak record, I can't imagine having it as the opening track
― flamboyant goon tie included, Tuesday, 18 January 2022 21:32 (two years ago) link
Yeah the other tracklistings for that album make no sense to me.
― Kim Kimberly, Tuesday, 18 January 2022 21:36 (two years ago) link
I can't imagine ending with anything other than "Thank You Friends". "Stroke It Noel" and "For You" are gentle songs to ease you into the record.
― Halfway there but for you, Tuesday, 18 January 2022 21:44 (two years ago) link
I love most of Bowie's Rykodisc releases. My two favourite Bowie albums are Diamond Dogs and Low. The Ryko extras include the Candidate demo (completely different song than Candidate on the album) and Dodo for Diamond Dogs - great songs both; Some Are and All Saints for Low - especially Some Are is an absolute masterpiece.'Tonight' didn't get a Ryko reissue but Virgin added three bonus tracks: This Is Not America, As The World Falls Down, Absolute Beginners. Excellent stuff which I think also really improves the album.
However, I never liked the Ryko bonuses for Station To Station: it's live versions of two of the six album tracks, which I think is unnecessary repetition. If I want to hear those songs, I just listen to the entire album again instead of a repeat of selected content in somewhat different rendition. For this reason, I really dislike it in general when bonus tracks are live versions or remixes of tracks which are already on the album.I also entirely disagree with the 16y old comment upthread about David Sylvian's Gone To Earth (one of my, if not my absolute, all-time favourite albums): I think those remixes on CD1 are completely unnecessary and only disrupt the album flow!
There are a lot of Jethro Tull albums with excellent bonus material. One major exception is a 14 minute interview excerpt on Aqualung. I put on the album because I want to listen to music, not interrupted by some old interview, which is also not something to warrant repeated listenings.But as for other original Jethro Tull CD issues with bonus tracks - yes! Among many others, 'Christmas Song' on This Was; 'Living In The Past' on Stand Up; 'Broadford Bazaar' on Heavy Horses; 8 great tracks on Broadsword and the Beast; 'Part of the Machine' on Crest of a Knave.
― Valentijn, Tuesday, 18 January 2022 21:48 (two years ago) link
someone mentioned expanded live albums above - I think the expanded/remixed version of Bowie's Stage is heaps better than the old 2LP (and IMO crucial document of one of the all-time great tours and one of the greatest bands ever assembled)
also not quite 'bonus tracks' but I've long held that the cassette release of Standing On A Beach with b-sides on the flip is the definitive version - conversely the 'bonus tracks' on the CD (Other Voices, Play For Today, A Night Like This) make it a weaker compilation
― lemmy incaution (emsworth), Tuesday, 18 January 2022 22:07 (two years ago) link
DEV-O Live (from the Freedom of Choice tour) is a pretty bizarre example. it was released as a 6-song EP (probably under contractual obligation), then later made it to CD in a vastly expanded version by Ryko, with 16 bonus tracks from a different date fleshing out more or less a full concert. except...all the original stuff is still there. all six of the original tracks are duplicated, and not really much different. idk why they didn't just do a full set, who cares if the "original" performances aren't there?
― frogbs, Tuesday, 18 January 2022 22:13 (two years ago) link
Yeah Valentijn the Bowie Ryko bonuses are legendary (at least in my own mind). The demo version of "Candidate" makes my list of top 20 Bowie songs, sometimes. I remember feeling like "what" when Aladdin Sane came with no bonuses. "Holy Holy" is awful, the alt version of "John," is amazing, the live StS tracks are inessential, the "Crystal Japan" bonus on Scary Monsters had me giving Trent Reznor a side-long glance about not giving Bowie any credit for "A Warm Place". I don't even really think about Low without it ending with "Some Are" and "All Saints", etc. etc.
― flamboyant goon tie included, Wednesday, 19 January 2022 00:06 (two years ago) link
"Lightning Frightening" from The Man Who Sold the World is my go-to example for totally inconsequential reissue bonus tracks, but I wouldn't really want it never to have been issued.
― Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 19 January 2022 03:46 (two years ago) link
Second for the guy who mentioned "Mutations" by Beck 15 years ago on this thread.
My CD finished with "Runners Dialled Zero" and "Diamond Bollocks", although the album apparently finishes with "Static".
Great album.
― in twelve parts (lamonti)
would argue these don't count as bonus tracks, they were included on most or all of the initial editions of the album. where are these 'stanard' copies of Mutations that finish with Static anyhow?
― The 25 Best Songs Ever Ranked In Order (Deflatormouse), Wednesday, 19 January 2022 04:03 (two years ago) link
the recent longer/restored Secret Messages by ELO is an improvement over the original release.
― akm, Wednesday, 19 January 2022 04:05 (two years ago) link
The LP of Cowboy Junkies The Trinity Session didn’t include the what-now-seem-essential songs “Blue Moon Revisited (Song for Elvis)” and “Working On A Building.”
Two “perfect” albums with even-better songs released in expanded editions are Emmylou Harris’s Wrecking Ball and The Waterboys’ Fisherman’s Blues.
― deep luminous trombone (Eazy), Wednesday, 19 January 2022 05:43 (two years ago) link
Brigitte Fontaine & Art Ensemble of Chicago - "Comme à la radio"
adds "Le goudron" which is one of her most popular songs.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 5 February 2022 03:18 (two years ago) link
With good results, Love and Rockets added a bonus instrumental track to the *beginning* of both "Seventh Dream..." and "Express". For the former, "God and Mr. Smith" (based on "If There's a Heaven Above" which is moved from the beginning of Side A to the end of Side A, bookending the side with the same theme); and for the latter, the slowly building "Angels and Devils". The upbeat "Inside the Outside" was another bonus track on "Seventh Dream..." (a good addition to break up the other tracks' slow/medium tempos); certain additions also had "Ball of Confusion" (also a bonus track on "Express"). (Another "Express" bonus track was "Holiday on the Moon" - not my favorite L&R track, heh).
― ernestp, Saturday, 5 February 2022 17:08 (two years ago) link