WAKA

^^ simple as that really

also for about a month i unquestioningly assumed the lyric was "GOT A MAN, BITCH - GOT A MISTRESS" without thinking that was odd

OK, I agree with all this! I just wanted to make sure we were on the same page!

hopefully I can sneak in a good headphone listen.

what is this, a community rap meeting?

for my dawgs

yeah basically, waka himself admits he isn't a "lyrical" or even "good" rapper - but the sheer energy in his music elevates it to another level, a lot of so called "good rappers" could use his energy

"hard in da paint" + diamond's "gotta money" = the two tracks that were invaluable to me in keeping my energy up at the three political conferences i've been working for the past month

have u heard diamond's "hit dat hoe" w/ waka lex?

I swear the calibration for the difference between a "good" and "bad" rapper is so much more varied than such comparisons in all the other genres I listen to.

once! i liked it! i should listen to it again. xp

definitely san te, because there are so many variables and things to consider that it's really a case-by-case thing

point of opinion: would anybody here listen to and enjoy a rapper who just said "Yo!" over and over again on an album, if he shouted Yo enthusiastically, found creative ways to say "Yo!" polyrhythmically, had a swagger and confidence, and did it over extremely murky and club-crunky beats? i probably would...it'd be almost like the Meshuggah of rap.

I would most definitely

The "Yo!" album

"not a good rapper" isn't really sufficient criticism w/r/t assessing an artist's lyrics, b/c you can make great rap songs without being great lyrically (WAKA), or by playing with trad/conservative ideas of what constitutes good rap lyricism (NICKI).

"not a good rapper" should be more applicable to artists whose tone of voice is just dull and uncompelling like rick ross, who isn't even that good at riding great beats and who'd sound inconsequential if he was spitting, like, illmatic-level lines.

I think rick ross is a good rapper though.

which is why "hard in da paint" >>>>>>>>>> the ostensibly identical lex luger productions on the rick ross album which are just zzz who cares

xp

oh yea there's definitely different levels to it, but it's interesting to me that some rappers with good flow and bad lyrics don't get forgiven for their shortcomings, and others do. It's not even necessarily invalid, it's just ya know I have an easier time debating with my metal-listening friends who is and isn't a good metal vocalist! :)

I like Rick Ross but I find him hard to take seriously....still though Teflon Don was a solid album

death before bricksquad

This thing is totally awesome, but just want to make sure we're down to earth and not freaking out like whenever Terminal Boredom gets their hands on whatever nth degree Brainbombs or Homostupids clone or whatev

― BIG BOOS aka the screamdriver (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, October 7, 2010 9:26 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

seriously what the fuck does this even mean

what a typical whiney post

anyway i think everyone here likes this album "for the right reasons"

Is there a penalty if we don't? like will our other 'real' rap cds get confiscated?

yeah i hate when deej gets all indie tuomas about not understanding whiney's references but serious wtf is he even talking about

samosa gibreel knows whats up

xxxp there's definitely a little runaway hivemind dying-for-a-great-rap-album hyperbole about it.

i claimed the album wouldn't be remarkable after barely one listen and i take that back big time it's a great album and a really big breath of fresh air. but still, i'm not gonna place it in some grand lineage just yet

brainbombs are pretty bomb

imo Waka album should be in Library of Congress

i think this will go down as one of the best rap albums of 2010 and will also be remembered as a very singular album in a time in rap when personalities & rappers with their own ideas were in rather short supply

does that sound right?

o leh dewey

(decimal system)

i jsut think a lot of the songs on the album that hadn't been heard before it came out are kind of weak, the really strong ones that make it so singular have all been out

LC cataloging >>>> dewey

that doesn't take away from it as an album obviously but it's why my reaction is a little muted

i think this will go down as one of the best rap albums of 2010 and will also be remembered as a very singular album in a time in rap when personalities & rappers with their own ideas were in rather short supply

i agree totally. especially because when i listen to it, i basically think of flocka as a personality, an idea, a formula, a voice. It's that same Lil Jon space where I don't really care about a word he says, it's just great how he says it.

What throws me off is that Lil Jon was a producer/songwriter/beat-maker auteur. And I don't really know who is behind what Flockaveli exactly IS.

waka is u goof
& its not really like lil jon

yeah i hate when deej gets all indie tuomas about not understanding whiney's references but serious wtf is he even talking about

― some dude, Thursday, October 7, 2010 1:28 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i dont do this

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i want to talk about the production for a sec, cause i definitely feel like there is innovation here that keeps it from just being a crunk 2.0 retread. i feel like the beats waka prefers tend to have a more upfront syncopation/polyrhythm to them than earlier crunk. also thinner individual sounds (no huge rave stabs like lil jon or apocalyptic samples like 36m) that may be either left in a sparse configuration (a la "o lets do it") or stacked and layered into something huge-sounding that doesn't rely on one particular sound for it's hugeness (like "hard in the paint").

stacked and layered into something huge-sounding that doesn't rely on one particular sound for it's hugeness

xzactly what i was thinbking. like its a bunch of little noises (BOW! FLOCKA!") stacked to make a grand chaos. Maybe the noisest major label rap record since Fear Of A Black Planet?

Maybe the noisest major label rap record since Fear Of A Black Planet?

― BIG BOOS aka the screamdriver (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, October 7, 2010 4:54 PM (20 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

man i don't think i'm gonna like this but now yr not even playing fair

you will probably like it a lot m@tt

but thats a dumb thing to say anyway

what whiney said i mean

cool opinion bro, do you have a better answer?

well 'noisiest' is super vague but i mean there been gajillions of 'noisy' rap records since?

name some

hahaha oh man, listening to bustin at em

never really listened to this dude...i don't even know what to think, i swear there's like 12 overdubs of him making gun mouth noises running concurrently on this track at points

^_^

knowing ur background and tastes matt, i'm gonna be surprised if waka ends up clicking for you