i want to download "yes, i smoke crack" but from a site that isn't shady!!! help ple
― dreamsonvhs, Thursday, 7 October 2010 06:21 (thirteen years ago) link
All three of them are vocalists. John Holland sings, Heather Marlatt sings, Jack Donoghue raps.
― Duran (Doran), Thursday, 7 October 2010 07:44 (thirteen years ago) link
I wonder if they will collect the singles and EPs, which I think are much more diverse sounding (and feature no rapping). There's:
Yes I Smoke Crack EPWater EPOhk/Sweat 7"Frost/Legend 7"Babydaddy 7" (split with Tanlines)
Plus a few more old demos (and lots of remixes) that never were for sale commercially
― She Got the Shakes, Thursday, 7 October 2010 09:10 (thirteen years ago) link
Dusted seems like a good idea. I'd never heard of it before.
― Duran (Doran), Wednesday, October 6, 2010 1:59 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
Dusted has some fantastic writing, and their staff seems to have eclectic though not arbitrary or downright weird taste. One of the site's writers, Jennifer Kelly, is usually excellent. For example:http://www.dustedmagazine.com/reviews/5680
Note that that review came out two weeks before Pitchfork's, which bring to mind another thing about that site: they review the most hyped albums a couple days before they come out, not two weeks later.
― Indexed, Thursday, 7 October 2010 14:33 (thirteen years ago) link
i like dusted and i hate almost everything on the internet. i think i actually emailed them once about possibly writing reviews, but they never got back to me. which, actually, just proves that they have high standards and are to be applauded.
― scott seward, Thursday, 7 October 2010 14:47 (thirteen years ago) link
or wait i think it was actually just ONE specific record that i wanted to review and i couldn't think of anyone else who would let me review it. still, its the only time i ever emailed an online site so that must mean that i like them.
― scott seward, Thursday, 7 October 2010 14:53 (thirteen years ago) link
Dusted is pretty great, I am surprised that it doesn't generate more comments on this site. I highly recommend sifting through their "Listed" features, there are some really cool and interesting musicians (and non-musicians here and there) roped in for it. I worry that burnout will happen for Dusted, somewhat akin to Stylus, as I just don't see how all those folks can keep up the level of quality without any compensation (surely noone at Dusted is getting paid? no adds etc.)
Of course, wrong thread for this. Surprised so many people are actually reviewing this Salem record TBH.
― grandavis, Thursday, 7 October 2010 15:02 (thirteen years ago) link
Dusted's been around for at least eight years so I don't know why it wouldn't keep going for a while
― congratulations (n/a), Thursday, 7 October 2010 15:04 (thirteen years ago) link
Yeah, I hope so. It is a beacon of low-key integrity for me at least.
― grandavis, Thursday, 7 October 2010 15:09 (thirteen years ago) link
The "weekly" Listed feature hasn't been updated since August.
as far as p4k alternatives go, Tinymixtapes > Dusted
― If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Thursday, 7 October 2010 15:21 (thirteen years ago) link
"Listed" is still worth sifting through, though. Gems like Chris Corsano and Tom Smith abound. As far as tinymixtapes goes, to each his own. I read it as well, but would give it up before Dusted. Don't look at Dusted really as competing with tinymixtapes or P4K, somewhat different beast to me (i.e., not jokey).
― grandavis, Thursday, 7 October 2010 15:33 (thirteen years ago) link
These days I check Dusted more often than I do Pitchfork (or any other reviews site), there's always some great-sounding release that I had never heard of before.
― seandalai, Thursday, 7 October 2010 15:49 (thirteen years ago) link
Dusted is pretty great, I am surprised that it doesn't generate more comments on this site.
you're right; it should. Dusted Magazine -- C/D
― Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 7 October 2010 15:59 (thirteen years ago) link
Yeah, sorry about derailing this thread. I promptly remove myself ...
― grandavis, Thursday, 7 October 2010 16:00 (thirteen years ago) link
no no. nothing wrong with tangents on threads at all. this one is a lively discussion, actually.
― Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 7 October 2010 16:00 (thirteen years ago) link
Hmmm, perhaps just me feeling guilty. There are people who care about Salem, so I don't want to put 40 comments in the way of their conversation. I moved myself to that Dusted thread personally.
Last thought: agree with seandalai, Dusted has a good track record with me. They don't rep for much that leaves me completely cold, and I have found some great stuff through them.
― grandavis, Thursday, 7 October 2010 16:13 (thirteen years ago) link
I liked that first Bumblebeez album, would I like this?
― da croupier, Thursday, 7 October 2010 17:45 (thirteen years ago) link
listening to title track. what the hell is that Dusted reviewer on about? Classical music chestnut over rap beats, pretty sure Dan The Automator did this a hundred times in the late 90s.
― da croupier, Thursday, 7 October 2010 17:51 (thirteen years ago) link
Jesus no. Most of Tinymixtapes content is unreadable
― Number None, Thursday, 7 October 2010 21:15 (thirteen years ago) link
Yeah, I can't stand Tinymixtapes, particularly since the last redesign.
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 7 October 2010 21:21 (thirteen years ago) link
just checked out dusted...they have a new review of the mike watt/nels cline deal...anyway this is a weird way to talk about mike watt
Floored By Four is a one-off collaboration between a quartet of musicians, each with at least one foot in conventional rock, the other in more experimental jazz and improv. Mike Watt, who started the project, splits his time between playing bass for The Stooges and Porno for Pyros on the mainstream side, while also working with people like Elliott Sharp and Nels Cline.
― 50.bison (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 7 October 2010 21:24 (thirteen years ago) link
like oh yeah mike watt the dude from porno for pyros
as far as p4k alternatives go
there are . . . alternatives? O_O
― markers, Thursday, 7 October 2010 21:38 (thirteen years ago) link
Wait... "rape gaze"?
― She Got the Shakes, Friday, 8 October 2010 07:11 (thirteen years ago) link
Pitchfork reviewer of 'KIng Night' = arrogant douche: "it's easy to be amazed that these dickheads made a record so interesting and sonically detailed." Great analysis Larry.
― Tim. E "LazRus" Lucas (Prose b4 Hoes...and Big Hoos), Friday, 8 October 2010 11:42 (thirteen years ago) link
Someone should tell Scott he accidentally published Fitzmaurice's pitch email instead of the actual review.
― cee-oh-tee-tee, Friday, 8 October 2010 12:23 (thirteen years ago) link
"rape gaze"?
― rachel bladdow! (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 8 October 2010 12:42 (thirteen years ago) link
as far as p4k alternatives go, Tinymixtapes > DustedJesus no. Most of Tinymixtapes content is unreadable― Number None, Thursday, 7 October 2010 21:15 (Yesterday) PermalinkYeah, I can't stand Tinymixtapes, particularly since the last redesign.― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 7 October 2010 21:21 (Yesterday)
― Number None, Thursday, 7 October 2010 21:15 (Yesterday) Permalink
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 7 October 2010 21:21 (Yesterday)
thirded! tinymixtapes is the very last scrape of the barrel before you hit (the worst of) the blogosphere.
― fndgo, Friday, 8 October 2010 12:43 (thirteen years ago) link
this is the one thing i don't get at all
"interesting and sonically detailed"
like i keep trying to appreciate this as pure SOUND, but it just seems nowhere near as immersive and intricate as like Zaytoven, Polow Da Don, DJ Toomp, Three 6 Mafia, etc...
― rachel bladdow! (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 8 October 2010 12:46 (thirteen years ago) link
and Dusted has always been solid and englightening.
I actually feel like there are genuine opinions on there, that they haven't been been processed and edited for maximum appeal and impact to some perceived target audience (that I don't belong to), which is how I feel reading the other sites.
― fndgo, Friday, 8 October 2010 12:48 (thirteen years ago) link
The "dickheads" jab was unnecessary and unwarranted. They may be unprofessional amateurs, but I don't see how that makes them assholes.
The review was pretty spot on, though, and entirely predictable for Pitchfork. And that's fine, because Pitchfork has a very clear goal, purpose, and audience. This isn't the kind of music most Pitchfork readers will like, and therefore, to give it a positive score would be to risk jeopardizing their "taste" level. So give it a mostly glowing review, say it's a divisive album (it is), slap on a 7.something, and forget the thing ever came out.
― Indexed, Friday, 8 October 2010 14:24 (thirteen years ago) link
actually I like cokemachineglow the most out of all the pitchfauxrks....
― the production is what saviours her (Drugs A. Money), Friday, 8 October 2010 14:43 (thirteen years ago) link
EQ'd-to-shit click tracks
what does this mean
― the parking garage has more facebook followers than my band (Jordan), Friday, 8 October 2010 14:48 (thirteen years ago) link
it means the click tracks have been poorly EQ'd so that they stand out from the music in an irritating/intrusive way.
jesus christ you guys, come on. this isn't written in hieroglyphics.
― strongohulkingtonsghost, Friday, 8 October 2010 14:51 (thirteen years ago) link
that came out snottier than i intended. BUT STILL.
― strongohulkingtonsghost, Friday, 8 October 2010 14:52 (thirteen years ago) link
ok like i know it's been said twice already but....RAPE GAZE?
― a prairie based companion (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 8 October 2010 14:54 (thirteen years ago) link
i like how that's dropped in there like it's just totally a normal thing ppl say all the time like oh sure rape gaze, one of my favorite genres outside of ragtime jazz and western swing
― a prairie based companion (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 8 October 2010 14:55 (thirteen years ago) link
i thought it might have been "rap-gaze" and accidentally wound up with an extra "e" but i am worried "rape-gaze" is a real thing.
― strongohulkingtonsghost, Friday, 8 October 2010 14:56 (thirteen years ago) link
the sad thing is that "rape-gaze" is just as evocative when discussing these doobers as "rap-gaze" would be.
― strongohulkingtonsghost, Friday, 8 October 2010 14:57 (thirteen years ago) link
but a "click track" is usually something musicians only hear in their headphones, not actually part of the music. i think he means...hi-hats?
― the parking garage has more facebook followers than my band (Jordan), Friday, 8 October 2010 14:57 (thirteen years ago) link
but i am worried "rape-gaze" is a real thing.
um
http://www.myspace.com/wearecreep
― the parking garage has more facebook followers than my band (Jordan), Friday, 8 October 2010 14:59 (thirteen years ago) link
i like how that's dropped in there like it's just totally a normal thing ppl say all the time like oh sure rape gaze, one of my favorite genres outside of ragtime jazz and western swing― a prairie based companion (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, October 8, 2010 3:55 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark
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can't believe you're being such a herb about this
― rmde @ the romo dumplings (history mayne), Friday, 8 October 2010 14:59 (thirteen years ago) link
haha this is possibly true. who knows truly what lurks inside the head of larry fitzmaurice. i am sorry i snapped at u jordan. u_u
― strongohulkingtonsghost, Friday, 8 October 2010 15:02 (thirteen years ago) link
why can't you believe it history mayne?
― a prairie based companion (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 8 October 2010 15:08 (thirteen years ago) link
because we're supposed to be beyond taking offense/expressing disbelief at the use of "rape" in a neologism.
― strongohulkingtonsghost, Friday, 8 October 2010 15:09 (thirteen years ago) link
rape gaze bro, come on
im amazed it took this long to come back round
― rmde @ the romo dumplings (history mayne), Friday, 8 October 2010 15:09 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah word, the more i think about this i'm just bored with the whole thing, wake me when paedowave hits
― a prairie based companion (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 8 October 2010 15:12 (thirteen years ago) link
(also history mayne i am a herb u know this)
― a prairie based companion (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 8 October 2010 15:13 (thirteen years ago) link
People have been using "rape gaze" for a while...
http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=%22rape+gaze%22
― Position Position, Friday, 8 October 2010 15:24 (thirteen years ago) link
uh it's basically one triangle band that uses it as self description. the p4k guy just couldn't resist giving it currency
― zvookster, Friday, 8 October 2010 15:25 (thirteen years ago) link