does tom petty have any redeeming qualities?

4 hour peter bogdanovich doc about TP coming soon!

not kidding!

* I wish he didn't SING them

(xxpos)

I like Petty fine, but god that was dull. A twenty-minute "Rockin' Lunch" block from classic rock radio.

not kidding!

I wish to hell you were.

remy otm. They should have borrowed the Big Screen Elvis technology from the TCB band and reanimated Roy.

I wonder if Bogdanovich can imitate classic rockers like he can old film directors?

Frankly, I could do without the elaborate Super Bowl halftime show. I prefer it more as a game and less as an event. Of course, I'm not even watching it this year (as I hate the Patriots so).

I think the easter egg on the DVD version of the Bogdano Petty doc is going to be PB's masterful imos of all the departed Wilburys.

the Bogdanovich doc is already out, I watched it on cable the other night. i liked it, but then i wish all episodes of Classic Albums or Behind The Music were 4 hours long.

this thread is probably the most RONG that Jess has ever been.

i am not a tom petty fan at all, some of the early hits are decent enough, but he is x1000 better than unlikely ilm hero john cougar mellencamp

RONG

save it for chuck eddy

TS: Tom Petty vs. Adam Ant

the Coug's biggest hits aren't as bland (or maybe just overplayed) as Petty's, but there are more Petty songs I'd rather hear (half of Wildflowers, etc.)

I call it a draw.

The best comment on the performance, by the inimitable K-Jean Lopez:

"God bless" you too, dude. That was a nice, subtle Super Bowl moment. This American Girl is grateful.

He should have played "American Girl" last.

i <3 tp AND his heartbreakers and at least the tv mix was better than it usually is for these things, but it was funny how it was "american girl" + 3 from "full moon fever." i guess "full moon fever" is the tom petty lowest common denominator. i don't hate it or anything, but most of the albums before it are better. (and so is wildflowers.) anyway, he looked old and kinda tired but wtf. he's 57, i guess he's allowed to look old.

"i am not a tom petty fan at all, some of the early hits are decent enough, but he is x1000 better than unlikely ilm hero john cougar mellencamp

-- gershy"

ILM is some white ass motherfuckers. TP actually wrote a few good songs, that's way better than i can say about mr cougar.

retract

Those crowd shots during the halftime show: Good Lord, was even half of that audience even born when Full Moon Fever came out?

I mean, "WOOT! IT'S A FIFTY YEAR OLD MAN PLAYING SONGS ABOUT ELVIS AND DEL SHANNON!"

he's had some great moments, but it's been all downhill after stan lynch was fired.

yeah i miss stan lynch a lot.

wonder which sports columnist will use "even the losers get lucky sometimes" tomorrow.

good lord i don't even know where to begin

his halftime show sucked.

Not so much cuz of the music, but it isn't the right type of music for a halftime show. that and it was boring.

Prince was the halftime show to end all halftime shows last year.

he's a rock musician, he writes rock songs

but ilx never tires of picking on aging rockers...

he was way better than the stones were, that's for fucking sure

i mean, in terms of halftime show performances

not saying much, I've never liked the Stones.

then again it wasn't as bad as the debacle of Aerosmith w/Britney Spears

"but ilx never tires of picking on aging rockers...

-- winston"

there has to be a way to age better than most seem to have been doing it.

Prince rocked the fuck out last year.

And he's old, too.

I've always been fond of a lot (though not all) of Tom Petty's music -- mostly the earlier stuff, but "Wildflowers" is pretty nice too.

That said, his show tonight was awful. Guy needs to retire.

Interesting quote I just read on wikipedia: * "I want to give the radio back to the kids. That's one thing I'd like to see. I remember a time when you could turn on the AM radio and just set there all day and listen. Now I keep punching the button and hope something will come on that's worth listening to. There's nothing. They don't play the young bands. Boston is just MOR as far as I'm concerned. There's no threat there. And disco just ain't right." - Los Angeles Times 1977

The disco remark doesn't startle me, but I was surprised that he slagged Boston.

Also I read through this entire thread and found only the slightest mention of "Here Comes My Girl". Am I the only one that thinks that song is brilliant?

Prince rocked the fuck out last year.

yeah obviously. no comparison.

Guy needs to retire.

i think that sort of already happened.

Am I the only one that thinks that song is brilliant?

hell no. it came up on my ipod last week and i played it three times in a row.

A quote where the rocker slams disco is the ILM equivalent of finding racist newsletters from political candidates "back in the day."

At least one of the other quotes in the wikipedia entry is so outrageously rockist that if I were to paste it here I think it would make people's eyes bleed.

x-p:

so then what is a rocker touring with a giant rebel flag the ilm equivalent of?

i mean, i love tom petty, but i'm not defending that.

"About to Give Out" is fantastic late Petty and a classic old guys rocking out hellraiser. We need more of them.

He smokes weed...

Vocally, he sounded incredible. I don't think he's sounded that good in about 25 years.

I thought the show was well-performed but boring. Good job to him for doing what he does well; I just don't like what he does.

Me? I'm not a fan of the Nu Country.

I was surprised that he slagged Boston.

He was new wave then; he had to slag Boston. (Honest -- he even had songs included on "new wave" compilation albums.)

Anyway, didn't watch the Super Bowl thing. But I still have nothing against the guy, even if his albums have been mostly useless for the past couple decades, even longer than albums by Cougar (who is still way, way better, career-wise.)

(Well, okay, guess I could see owning Full Moon Fever from '89; that's technically two years later than The Lonesome Jubilee. So I'll give him that. But I've always figured the Greatest Hits CD would make owning Full Moon Fever redundant. And Cougar's early/mid '80s beat Petty's early/mid '80 by several miles.)

ilx never tires of picking on aging rockers...

Most of them deserve it. (Then again, so do most young rockers. And most aging and young non-rockers, too.)