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This thread is making my head spin. Who posting here ISN'T Marcello?

Euler, Friday, 4 May 2007 20:18 (nineteen years ago)

Music has never ever said anything to me other than music itself, and it shouldn't say anything to anyone else as then you devalue the value of music as a value in itself.

Geir Hongro, Friday, 4 May 2007 20:19 (nineteen years ago)

aesthtetic pansy delusions, lol

sexyDancer, Friday, 4 May 2007 20:22 (nineteen years ago)

I'm not even mad, just blown away by how wrong that is. I don't even know what to do.

call all destroyer, Friday, 4 May 2007 20:23 (nineteen years ago)

Geir is Ralph Wiggum.

Rock Hardy, Friday, 4 May 2007 21:15 (nineteen years ago)

It's less Geir's extremely particular viewpoints, it's his pretentions to authority and objectivity. Where is he getting these ideas of what music is "supposed" to be other than his own personal reactions?

-- sexyDancer, Friday, 4 May 2007 20:10


Didn't Geir say somewhere in the archives that every post he makes is prefaced by an understood IN MY OPINION?

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 4 May 2007 22:00 (nineteen years ago)

we need a geir macro

sexyDancer, Friday, 4 May 2007 22:01 (nineteen years ago)

That's fairly obvious. Everything stated here is opinions. (Other than definitions etc, which may sometimes be opinions too, but sometimes not)

Geir Hongro, Friday, 4 May 2007 22:18 (nineteen years ago)

I HAS A OPINION
http://www.gallery19.us/images/100-75167.jpg

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 4 May 2007 22:48 (nineteen years ago)

Geir, if someone has a 'good' voice but has no songwriting ability, should they just give up their singing career or only sing their own material no matter how bad it is?

Billy Dods, Monday, 14 May 2007 13:14 (nineteen years ago)

Mr Hongro:

1. What exactly do you get out of contributing to ILM? Do you enjoy provoking folks here? Or do you find it odd that your views, as stated, generate typically visceral responses?

2. I asked this on the Eagles thread, and am genuniely curious as to the answer, so I ask you again: have you ever visited America?

Veronica Moser, Monday, 14 May 2007 15:08 (nineteen years ago)

More to the point, has he ever visited Majorca, particularly in the last fortnight?

Marcello Carlin, Monday, 14 May 2007 15:17 (nineteen years ago)

Geir, if someone has a 'good' voice but has no songwriting ability, should they just give up their singing career or only sing their own material no matter how bad it is?

Today there is this funny and useful little tool called Autotune. When it is being used to make it sound like completely untalented supermodels (who should never ever have been signed) are able to sing, then it may also be used to make it sound like an obviously talented songwriter (but with an awful singing voice) can sing

The other option, used a lot throughout rock history, is of course to start a band, and make sure to be the creative "dictator" of that band.

1. What exactly do you get out of contributing to ILM? Do you enjoy provoking folks here? Or do you find it odd that your views, as stated, generate typically visceral responses?

Whenever people aren't too hungup on "rockism" I find that there are a lot of interesting people here, with a lot of knowledge about music. And the non-canonical approach may be interesting at times (that is, when not used to mock non-rhythmic music)

2. I asked this on the Eagles thread, and am genuniely curious as to the answer, so I ask you again: have you ever visited America?

Visited New York for one week 23 years ago.

Geir Hongro, Monday, 14 May 2007 22:07 (nineteen years ago)

And, yes, I have visited Mallorca, but the last time was 17 years ago :)

Geir Hongro, Monday, 14 May 2007 22:08 (nineteen years ago)

http://solbjorg.com/images/GEIR%20Bottle%20&%20Box%20(straight%20on)%20(1).jpg

zaxxon25, Monday, 14 May 2007 22:36 (nineteen years ago)

Geir, I saw from some of your Usenet posts that you prefer The Ramones to Fleetwood Mac. Why?

Dom Passantino, Tuesday, 15 May 2007 10:06 (nineteen years ago)

Dunno. I am not really a big fan of either.

Geir Hongro, Tuesday, 15 May 2007 10:16 (nineteen years ago)

four months pass...

geir, who's better: george martin or nigel godrich?

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Thursday, 27 September 2007 15:17 (eighteen years ago)

Will you marry me?

max r, Thursday, 27 September 2007 16:32 (eighteen years ago)

be careful what you wish for

Just got offed, Thursday, 27 September 2007 16:36 (eighteen years ago)

Which is worse: 2 tone or 12 tone?

max r, Thursday, 27 September 2007 16:42 (eighteen years ago)

Did John Lennon's more "avant-garde" compositions (the ones without clear harmonic and melodic movement) indirectly affect the early stages of global warming and/or peak oil production?

Davey D, Thursday, 27 September 2007 16:44 (eighteen years ago)

"A Day in the Life of (Osama bin Laden)"

JN$OT, Thursday, 27 September 2007 16:56 (eighteen years ago)

Too bad about "The Long and Winding Pipeline" being a McCartney tune.

JN$OT, Thursday, 27 September 2007 17:03 (eighteen years ago)

He did write "Well Well Well" however

Tom D., Thursday, 27 September 2007 17:05 (eighteen years ago)

geir, who's better: george martin or nigel godrich?

Mitchell Froom. :)

Which is worse: 2 tone or 12 tone?

I hate 12 tone music and love a lot of 2 Tone stuff. Does that answer your question? :)

Did John Lennon's more "avant-garde" compositions (the ones without clear harmonic and melodic movement) indirectly affect the early stages of global warming and/or peak oil production?

I guess the production of those vinyl albums led to some CO2 being unneccessarily wasted, not to mention all the trees that were wasted on the sleeves. So the answer is yes.

Geir Hongro, Thursday, 27 September 2007 19:47 (eighteen years ago)

Are there any major Britpop bands you don't like, or even loathe, Geir?

Dom Passantino, Thursday, 27 September 2007 19:50 (eighteen years ago)

Are there any major Britpop bands you don't like, or even loathe, Geir?

I wouldn't say I loathe them, but I am certainly no fan of Stereophonics, Cast nor Starsailor.

Geir Hongro, Thursday, 27 September 2007 19:51 (eighteen years ago)

Why you so crazy, baby?

max r, Thursday, 27 September 2007 19:55 (eighteen years ago)

So what is it that you don't like about his music/influence?
> Minimalism, repetitiveness, way too few chords, way too little melody.

how many chords should a song have?
The more the better, as long as they keep it tonal.

-- Geir Hongro, Monday, 30 April 2007 23:14 (4 months ago) Link

Well, I take it you're not much of a Spacemen 3 fan...

stephen, Thursday, 27 September 2007 21:07 (eighteen years ago)

What's your favourite mode, Geir?

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 27 September 2007 21:11 (eighteen years ago)

Herr Hongro, can you tell us about your favorite concert that you ever attended…

Veronica Moser, Thursday, 27 September 2007 22:03 (eighteen years ago)

Herr Hongro, can you tell us about your favorite concert that you ever attended…

Not really. I am not into live music.

Geir Hongro, Thursday, 27 September 2007 23:17 (eighteen years ago)

geir hongro = patrick bateman?

max r, Thursday, 27 September 2007 23:20 (eighteen years ago)

Only if he's able to write a heartfelt two-page defence of the merits of 'Sports' by Huey Lewis & The News.

MacDara, Thursday, 27 September 2007 23:27 (eighteen years ago)

Huey Lewis and The News were more fun than most Britpop acts, I guess.

max r, Thursday, 27 September 2007 23:29 (eighteen years ago)

"I am not into live music."

With respect, Mr. Hongro, I would like to suggest that that is rather odd. Would you be interested in saying why you do not like live music?

As you know, until early in the last century, music was something that (generally speaking) people experienced in a social atmosphere. Is it that live music is less of a controlled and more of a spontaneous activity? Is there a sense in which you feel live music is unfinished? Or do you (and I admit the following is a query of a personal nature, which you may not like) not particularly like being around other people while experiencing music? Does social interaction via live music not interest you?

Thanks…

Veronica Moser, Friday, 28 September 2007 22:27 (eighteen years ago)

Which is worse: 2 tone or 12 tone?

I hate 12 tone music and love a lot of 2 Tone stuff. Does that answer your question? :)

What is this 2 tone?

St3ve Go1db3rg, Saturday, 29 September 2007 02:28 (eighteen years ago)

http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/146/PP0162~Ska-Posters.jpg

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Saturday, 29 September 2007 02:53 (eighteen years ago)

Ah, I see what you did there.

St3ve Go1db3rg, Saturday, 29 September 2007 02:58 (eighteen years ago)

Geir - TS: California Love vs Horst Wessel Lied?

King Boy Pato, Saturday, 29 September 2007 13:07 (eighteen years ago)

Would you be interested in saying why you do not like live music?

Because I prefer music as something absolutely perfect that is recorded once and for all in the definite and undisputable original version, that should benefit a lot from perfect production with no mistakes, and as little so-called "soul" as possible. And I see music not as a social activity, but rather as a brain thing. Something you use a perfect artistic mind to create, preferrably all of your own if possible.

Geir Hongro, Saturday, 29 September 2007 16:01 (eighteen years ago)

More precicely: In the days of classical music, music was notated, with every single note strictly notated into notes that should be followed completely without any kind of interpretation. And I see studio recorded music the same way.

Geir Hongro, Saturday, 29 September 2007 16:02 (eighteen years ago)

I take it you don't like jazz then?

Tuomas, Saturday, 29 September 2007 16:08 (eighteen years ago)

music was notated, with every single note strictly notated into notes that should be followed completely without any kind of interpretation.

Er, this is an "in your opinion" thing again, as opposed to "the composers' opinion", right?

Apart from that, I pretty much agree with the vague classical:pop::score:recording analogy as to what constitutes the ahem Platonic-type ideal identity of the work.

anatol_merklich, Saturday, 29 September 2007 16:12 (eighteen years ago)

I take it you don't like jazz then?

With jazz, I dislike the supposed improvisasion part, while I like the entire intellectuality, the advanced harmonies, the way-above-average musicianship and the entire "head music" thinking of it all.

Geir Hongro, Saturday, 29 September 2007 16:17 (eighteen years ago)

(or, more precicly, I dislike the folksy roots of jazz while I like its flirtation with classical music ideals)

Geir Hongro, Saturday, 29 September 2007 16:18 (eighteen years ago)

More precicely: In the days of classical music, music was notated, with every single note strictly notated into notes that should be followed completely without any kind of interpretation. And I see studio recorded music the same way.

That's totally false.

St3ve Go1db3rg, Saturday, 29 September 2007 17:04 (eighteen years ago)

And I see music not as a social activity, but rather as a brain thing

This is also a howler. Music is always already a social activity. Read 'Noise' by Jacques Attali.

whatever, Saturday, 29 September 2007 17:23 (eighteen years ago)

does music make you lose control, lose control, lose control?

max r, Saturday, 29 September 2007 17:34 (eighteen years ago)


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