oh wait...
― Lawrence the Looter (Lawrence the Looter), Sunday, 11 February 2007 16:21 (seventeen years ago) link
― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Sunday, 11 February 2007 16:30 (seventeen years ago) link
― Myonga Vön Bontee, Thursday, 22 February 2007 14:33 (seventeen years ago) link
― blueski, Thursday, 22 February 2007 14:40 (seventeen years ago) link
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― m the g, Thursday, 22 February 2007 15:02 (seventeen years ago) link
― Myonga Vön Bontee, Saturday, 24 February 2007 06:43 (seventeen years ago) link
The audience is such a source of joy in this scene:
In the Springfield Elementary Auditorium, Ned Flanders stands at a podium with Skinner and Edna on either side of him.
Ned: Well, all right, I'd like to call this meeting of the PTA to or-diddely-order. Let's see if we can't put an end to this strike fuss, huh? Mrs. Krabappel, why don't you begin? Skinner: Boo! Edna: Oh, "boo" yourself. Our demands are simple: a small cost-of- living increase and some better equipment and supplies for your children. Audience: Yeah! Give it to them! etc. Skinner: Yeah, in a dream world. We have a very tight budget; to do what she's asking, we'd have to raise taxes. Audience: Raise taxes? They're too high as they are. Taxes are bad. etc. Edna: It's your children's future. Audience: That's right. Children are important. etc. Skinner: It'll cost you. Audience: No to taxes. My God, they're going to raise taxes. etc. Edna: C'mon! Audience: She makes a good case. Good point. etc. Skinner: [rubs his fingertips together] Audience: More taxes? The finger thing means the taxes. etc. Ned: Well, I guess this is a case where we'll have to agree to disagree. Skinner: I don't agree to that. Edna: Neither do I!
― Finefinemusic, Saturday, 28 July 2007 21:53 (sixteen years ago) link
The Simpsons Movie has its moments...
― curmudgeon, Sunday, 29 July 2007 16:24 (sixteen years ago) link
If by "Had its moments" you mean "Was fucking hilarious and had at least a laugh per minute" then, yeah, I agree.
Best episode is probably when Homer goes to Clown College
― Erock Zombie, Sunday, 29 July 2007 16:34 (sixteen years ago) link
I stand by my top three: Frank Grimes, Hank Scorpio, and fat/disabled Homer.
The movie's great, btw.
― unperson, Sunday, 29 July 2007 19:19 (sixteen years ago) link
hank scorpio is great. but being a fan of frank grimes is like saying that the best moment of JFK's presidency was getting shot in the head.
tonight's rerun... "HAW HAW THEY'RE IN A CORN MAZE LET'S PLAY A KORN SONG... ALSO STEPHEN HAWKING, GET HIM IN THERE SOMEHOW." that'd probably be more appropriate for a worst simpsons episode ever thread though.
― GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ, Monday, 30 July 2007 01:36 (sixteen years ago) link
The Frank Grimes episode is a masterpiece.
My top three are: The Simpsons Spin-Off Showcase (esp. "The Simpson Family Smile-Time Variety Hour"), the garbage episode wth U2, and Armin Tanzarian (the most moving moment in television history is when the lie makes Armand and Agnes happier than the truth ever could have).
But Frank Grimes would probably be number four. The hatred for this episode astonishes me. Not since Preston Sturges' The Palm Beach Story (which give or take Jerry Lewis' The Ladies Man is the greatest comedy of the classical Hollywood era) did we get such a deep (and funny) understanding of the inequities of American capitalism. Somewhere up in heaven, Sturges is smiling.
The movie was good-not-great. But who cares? It's hands down the greatest television show of all-time.
― Kevin John Bozelka, Monday, 30 July 2007 02:24 (sixteen years ago) link
P.S. Frank Grimes' son tried to avenge his father's death in a later episode.
― Kevin John Bozelka, Monday, 30 July 2007 02:27 (sixteen years ago) link
yes, that was the episode that pretty much made me stop watching the simpsons for a couple of years.
― GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ, Monday, 30 July 2007 02:33 (sixteen years ago) link
Why???
― Kevin John Bozelka, Monday, 30 July 2007 02:40 (sixteen years ago) link
Wow...those would probably be the four episodes I'd list if you asked me to point out when the show began a steep decline in quality.
― Nathan, Monday, 30 July 2007 03:36 (sixteen years ago) link
THE four, huh? My four favorite episodes happen to be the EXACT four episodes that you'd list if someone (not me) asked you to point out when the show began a steep decline in quality? Those exact four episodes out of 400?
Remarkable. Nay, downright miraculous. Doncha think?
― Kevin John Bozelka, Monday, 30 July 2007 03:48 (sixteen years ago) link
Face it, dude, your taste sucks and people who describe episodes of The Simpsons as shit like a "deep (and funny) understanding of the inequities of American capitalism" make me want to barf and never watch teh show again.
― Alex in Baltimore, Monday, 30 July 2007 03:59 (sixteen years ago) link
So insightful. I love you.
― Kevin John Bozelka, Monday, 30 July 2007 04:15 (sixteen years ago) link
WHY? well, seeing as i think the frank grimes episode is fucking awful*, bringing the character back as a sort of sideshow bob for homer wasn't really an improvement.
* the "inequities of modern capitalism" point is interesting. i don't agree with it and i think for it to really stand homer would've had to return to being himself in the next episode instead of the braying jerkass he's been ever since. since that presupposes his character being drastically changed just to make a point.
― GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ, Monday, 30 July 2007 06:58 (sixteen years ago) link
I don't know why, but my 3 favorite Simpsons episodes are probably:
New Kids on the Blecch (When Bart becomes part of the boy band Party Posse) Grift of the Magi (When Kid First Industries takes over the school and tricks the kids into creating Funzo, a Furby rip off) Skinner's Sense of Snow (When the kids get trapped in the school during a blizzard)
― Aja, Monday, 30 July 2007 07:14 (sixteen years ago) link
glancing over the last few feet of this thread here's a top 5:
bart sells his soul (great plot, great subplot) frank grimes(why would anyone not like this ep? extremely meta but also extremely fucking good) pta disbands gabbo duff gardens
― tremendoid, Monday, 30 July 2007 08:10 (sixteen years ago) link
bringing the character back as a sort of sideshow bob for homer wasn't really an improvement.
Oh sorry. I was asking about why you didn't like the Frank Grimes episode which you answered anyway. Sorta:
i think for it to really stand homer would've had to return to being himself in the next episode instead of the braying jerkass he's been ever since.
But he's always been a braying jerkass. He was in the Frank Grimes episode and he was in the episode(s) before/after that. More importantly, he's a lazy, stupid braying jerkass. He's gotten ahead of Frank Grimes (and many others) in life through sheer luck. Basically, this episode is telling us that hard work does NOT get you everything in lfie and there aren't many American cultural products willing to wrestle with that reality.
I still don't know why you don't like this episode. But you're definitely not alone. It's well-hated.
Aja, I love all those episodes, esp. The Party Posse one (the greatest band since music's birth). Best line in that one is Milhouse's: "The Statue of Liberty? Where are we???"
― Kevin John Bozelka, Monday, 30 July 2007 08:12 (sixteen years ago) link
Smile-Time Variety Hour is really funny I think but did sort of open the door for later spinoff episodes that were nowhere near as good. Similarly, Frank Grimes episode is great but sort of proto-Family Guy (a lot of people will consider this more problematic than I do, I guess)
― DJ Mencap, Monday, 30 July 2007 13:24 (sixteen years ago) link
My personal favourites have always been the following (not in order of preference):
Homer the Heretic Last Exit to Springfield Simpson and Delilah You Only Move Twice Homer Bad Man King Size Homer Homie the Clown The Mysterious Voyage of Our Homer Homer vs. The Eighteenth Amendment Lemon of Troy
I've always felt season 13 was a very slight return to form but seasons 2-8 are the peak obviously.
― Mr Raif, Monday, 30 July 2007 15:32 (sixteen years ago) link
I hate the Party Posse episode.
― Curt1s Stephens, Monday, 30 July 2007 16:23 (sixteen years ago) link
-- Kevin John Bozelka, Monday, July 30, 2007 8:12 AM (8 hours ago) Bookmark Link
I think the best line is the one by that crazy VJ.."And that was the add for the new Stridex Pads! (I think that's what she says...or is it Tampax??) Whoo!!...And up next we have the new video from P squared! Whoo"
Or something like that...that character had too much energy...
-- Curt1s Stephens, Monday, July 30, 2007 4:23 PM (18 seconds ago) Bookmark Link
Ok...what episodes do you like???
― Aja, Monday, 30 July 2007 16:31 (sixteen years ago) link
most of them! I just don't like the Party Posse one.
― Curt1s Stephens, Monday, 30 July 2007 16:40 (sixteen years ago) link
ok...
I also like the one with John Waters...you???
― Aja, Monday, 30 July 2007 16:42 (sixteen years ago) link
Love it. Camp = when a clown dies.
― Kevin John Bozelka, Monday, 30 July 2007 16:57 (sixteen years ago) link
Two Bad Neighbors (I like singing "Table 5" over "stayin alive")
― billstevejim, Monday, 30 July 2007 17:01 (sixteen years ago) link
http://youtube.com/watch?v=z0Ki12mWpq8
Oh, I almost forgot about that episode!
― Aja, Monday, 30 July 2007 17:06 (sixteen years ago) link
that reminds me I really like the one where Ned opens the leftorium.
― tremendoid, Monday, 30 July 2007 17:20 (sixteen years ago) link
All good. There aren't many crappy ones.
― Kevin John Bozelka, Monday, 30 July 2007 17:23 (sixteen years ago) link
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ki_dEXCIDZ4&mode=related&search=
― kenan, Monday, 30 July 2007 18:02 (sixteen years ago) link
But he's always been a braying jerkass. He was in the Frank Grimes episode and he was in the episode(s) before/after that. More importantly, he's a lazy, stupid braying jerkass
No, no, no that is so not true! The writers who took over around this time apparently felt that he'd "always" been a braying jerkass, when he was actually nothing more than a well-meaning if occasionally selfish/immature goofball. Slow-witted but not downright insane. An average Joe Schlub, not the worst father/husband in town! The utter INFLATION of Homer Simpson is emblematic of that once-fine series' way-protracted decline - "Best show ever" might've been true in 1995 or even '97, but not today.
(Having said all that, I have to admit that the Grimey episode is indeed pretty funny in and of itself. But that Party Posse one was gawdawful.)
― Myonga Vön Bontee, Monday, 30 July 2007 19:21 (sixteen years ago) link
But even if all that is true (which I find debatable), I still don't see how it applies to the Frank Grimes episode.
And I'm perfectly willing to concede that my critical faculties are null and void when it comes to this show because it still makes me laugh and think to this day. Come on, that Statue of Liberty line from the Party Posse episode is fuckin' hardcore comedy.
― Kevin John Bozelka, Monday, 30 July 2007 22:28 (sixteen years ago) link
I can't believe I'm meeting Milhouse!
― musically, Monday, 30 July 2007 23:07 (sixteen years ago) link
Myonga OTM.
serrrrrriously. the cognitive dissonance is killing me.
― GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 00:25 (sixteen years ago) link
Love that this is on ILM for no good reason.
― Naive Teen Idol, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 12:19 (sixteen years ago) link
post season 8, the last half of season 12, season 13, and the first half of season 14 were ace, m8s. other than that, it's all handful of funny episodes in a pile of shit.
― uhrrrrrrr10, Wednesday, 1 August 2007 16:29 (sixteen years ago) link
The one where Mr Burns decides to become charitable and throws his money around in the form of coins and one gets lodged in Lenny's skull. Also the one where Homer's car rolls down a hill: he gets thrown out the car, bounces around a bit and is thrown back in again!
― Christyles, Wednesday, 1 August 2007 16:49 (sixteen years ago) link
the one where homer gets a gun― ernest, Wednesday, June 6, 2001 8:00 PM (9 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
so glad this one was in the first few posts. saw this last night and was lmao nonstop
― Hou Hsiao-Hsteen (crüt), Thursday, 17 June 2010 17:52 (thirteen years ago) link
there's so much gold in that one. love the beatnik. zen new jersey nowhere!
― hobbes, Thursday, 17 June 2010 18:24 (thirteen years ago) link
That was Homer the Vigilante.
― Tonight I Dine on Turtle Soup (EDB), Thursday, 17 June 2010 18:58 (thirteen years ago) link
One more year and that show's been as bad as long as it's been good
― Whiney G. Weingarten (whineyg), Monday, April 3, 2006 3:04 PM (4 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
u_u
― peabo bison (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 17 June 2010 19:11 (thirteen years ago) link
The one where Millhouse gets a girlfriend way back in S3 is nothing special plot-wise, but is crammed with incredible jokes. It has the subplot of Homer using the sleep-hypnosis tape which increases his vocabulary as well: "In the bedroom, the gourmand becomes the voluptuary!"
― rhythm fixated member (chap), Thursday, 17 June 2010 19:15 (thirteen years ago) link
huh, I was thinking that was a season or two later than that, It has that balance of the sincere & grounded and the crazy that seasons 4 and 5 got perfect. I love that subplot. My gastronomic rapacity knows no satieties. :'(
― NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Thursday, 17 June 2010 22:19 (thirteen years ago) link
the thing that still bugs me in that episode is where milhouse's girlfriend at the end goes "it's pretty nice but they won't let me oot". what the hell is oot-ing?
― hobbes, Thursday, 17 June 2010 22:20 (thirteen years ago) link