"Candybar Express" not a hit?
― Tom A. (Tom B.) (Tom C.) (Tom D.), Friday, 24 September 2010 11:04 (fifteen years ago)
(see what I mean about Candy/Honey/Sugar?)
http://www.btinternet.com/~birdpoo/images/pupplp01.jpg
― Stevie T, Friday, 24 September 2010 11:05 (fifteen years ago)
I've got that album somewhere!
― Tom A. (Tom B.) (Tom C.) (Tom D.), Friday, 24 September 2010 11:05 (fifteen years ago)
from Love and Money's wikipedia page - "hits" in this case meaning between #50 and #75
In their nine years together they recorded four moderately successful albums, three of which were released in the United States, and had six chart hits in the United Kingdom.[2]Singles"Candybar Express" (1986) UK #56"Dear John" (1986)"River of People" (1987)*Love & Money" (1987) UK #68"Halleluiah Man" (1988) UK #63"Strange Kind of Love" (1989) UK #45"Jocelyn Square" (1989) UK #51"Up Escalator (1989)""Winter" (1991) UK #52"My Love Lives in a Dead House" (1991)"Wishing Waters EP" (1991)"Last Ship on the River" (1994)
Singles
"Candybar Express" (1986) UK #56"Dear John" (1986)"River of People" (1987)*Love & Money" (1987) UK #68"Halleluiah Man" (1988) UK #63"Strange Kind of Love" (1989) UK #45"Jocelyn Square" (1989) UK #51"Up Escalator (1989)""Winter" (1991) UK #52"My Love Lives in a Dead House" (1991)"Wishing Waters EP" (1991)"Last Ship on the River" (1994)
― meta the devil you know (onimo), Friday, 24 September 2010 11:06 (fifteen years ago)
"Strange kind of love" the only one I could hum you.
― Mark G, Friday, 24 September 2010 11:08 (fifteen years ago)
So, what positions did those moderately successful albums get to?
Not exactly setting the heather on fire there
― Tom A. (Tom B.) (Tom C.) (Tom D.), Friday, 24 September 2010 11:09 (fifteen years ago)
Looking at the wikipedia page, it looks like the record company tried everything they could launch them, but not one top 40 hit. Support slots for U2, Simply Red & Tina Turner, appearances on the Wogan TV show etc...
― My glowbo's ain't half itchy (NickB), Friday, 24 September 2010 11:09 (fifteen years ago)
iirc 'Candybar Express' mentions both sugar and candy in the chorus.
― My glowbo's ain't half itchy (NickB), Friday, 24 September 2010 11:10 (fifteen years ago)
James Grant couldn't sing and wasn't very good looking - no competition for Sharleen Spiteri basically
― Tom A. (Tom B.) (Tom C.) (Tom D.), Friday, 24 September 2010 11:11 (fifteen years ago)
Their first album didn't chart. I'd be surprised if any of the others reached higher than the arse end of the top 40. 'Dogs in the Traffic' was 30th in the Scotsman's top 100 Scottish albums thing that I think we discussed on ILM at one point.
― meta the devil you know (onimo), Friday, 24 September 2010 11:13 (fifteen years ago)
Did Jonathan Fire*Eater srsly have seven figures chucked at them?? That seems like next level madness if that's true. In the UK they were exactly as big as you'd expect ie a cult band who had a good rep among indie kids and got played on the Evening Session (think Lamacq released their records in fact?)
― Heurelho Gomes & The Scene (DJ Mencap), Friday, 24 September 2010 11:19 (fifteen years ago)
Did Jonathan Fire*Eater srsly have seven figures chucked at them??
That was the story:
In early 1997, Jonathan Fire*Eater signed with David Geffens nascent Dreamworks music label. It was a million dollar contract with unusual clauses including full creative control for the band and a generous dental plan for their nearly toothless manager Walter Durkacz.
The front man had a big drug habit and the band collapsed, but (most of) the rest of the band put the money into their own studio (and re-formed as The Walkmen).
― She Got the Shakes, Friday, 24 September 2010 11:27 (fifteen years ago)
http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/252/101581.jpg
^ remember seeing these cocknozzles all over Smash Hits when I was a kid. Never heard a note though.
― My glowbo's ain't half itchy (NickB), Friday, 24 September 2010 11:29 (fifteen years ago)
Whozat?
― Tom A. (Tom B.) (Tom C.) (Tom D.), Friday, 24 September 2010 11:29 (fifteen years ago)
The mighty Drum Theatre
― My glowbo's ain't half itchy (NickB), Friday, 24 September 2010 11:31 (fifteen years ago)
It was a good era for preening buffoons in post-'Wild Boys' pyjamas
― My glowbo's ain't half itchy (NickB), Friday, 24 September 2010 11:40 (fifteen years ago)
Detective
― henry s, Friday, 24 September 2010 11:56 (fifteen years ago)
were Das Psych-Oh Rangers hyped?
― disastrous sixth series (MaresNest), Friday, 24 September 2010 12:05 (fifteen years ago)
2x Hayzee Fantayzee + self-promotional linkidge
― cee-oh-tee-tee, Friday, 24 September 2010 13:01 (fifteen years ago)
Managed a couple of hits though, and Jeremy Healy has been pretty successful since.
― My glowbo's ain't half itchy (NickB), Friday, 24 September 2010 13:08 (fifteen years ago)
Yeah, two big hits in the UK, which is twice as many as Toto Coelo ever had.
― My glowbo's ain't half itchy (NickB), Friday, 24 September 2010 13:09 (fifteen years ago)
The Gufs
― Remedial Thug Motivation (San Te), Friday, 24 September 2010 13:15 (fifteen years ago)
Tin Machine?
― My glowbo's ain't half itchy (NickB), Friday, 24 September 2010 13:28 (fifteen years ago)
Oy Vey, Baby still boggles the mind.
― cee-oh-tee-tee, Friday, 24 September 2010 13:36 (fifteen years ago)
Radish! Another group what got tons of money thrown at them by Mercury. Think Ben Kweller saved a little bit of it, maybe and has ended up making a few records that for some reason sound nothing like Radish.
― ellaguru, Friday, 24 September 2010 15:12 (fifteen years ago)
Oh, ellaguru! I've been trying to think of them ever since I remembered Symposium being on the NME 'bratbus' tour (lol). I bought the Radish album...I...I dunno...
― textbook blows on the head (dowd), Friday, 24 September 2010 15:19 (fifteen years ago)
wait, did anyone mention Vanessa Hudgens?
― bang (HI DERE), Friday, 24 September 2010 15:20 (fifteen years ago)
Yeah, I guess Disney is guilty of spending money on people whose talents they later shifted - Lohan? Panetierre, Duff etc.
― textbook blows on the head (dowd), Friday, 24 September 2010 15:24 (fifteen years ago)
hey onimo you remember Slide and The River Detectives?
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 24 September 2010 15:42 (fifteen years ago)
shitloads of these shitbands got hyped by billy sloan/daily record/sunday mail. Each one shitter than the last.Love & Money were by far the worst.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 24 September 2010 15:43 (fifteen years ago)
Was about to mention them. "Eldorado" was actually a great pop song. But surely no hit. Not that one either.
― Tied Up In Geir (Geir Hongro), Friday, 24 September 2010 15:52 (fifteen years ago)
I saw Slide a couple of times supporting people at the Barrowlands, can't remember what they sounded like.
― disastrous sixth series (MaresNest), Friday, 24 September 2010 16:12 (fifteen years ago)
shit yes :(
I think I saw the Silencers once, supporting The Alarm maybe.
― meta the devil you know (onimo), Friday, 24 September 2010 17:23 (fifteen years ago)
billy sloan really had a malign influence on scottish music
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 24 September 2010 17:28 (fifteen years ago)
haha Why isn't There A Thread For Scotlands Top Music Journalist ..... BILLY SLOAN?
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 24 September 2010 17:30 (fifteen years ago)
lots of youtubing from this thread the last couple days and it's apparent why the vast majority of these bands failed spectacularly...
― skip, Friday, 24 September 2010 17:56 (fifteen years ago)
Nancy Boy.
― paulhw, Friday, 24 September 2010 20:27 (fifteen years ago)
Dan Reed Network
― nope (Zachary Taylor), Friday, 24 September 2010 21:06 (fifteen years ago)
In terms of post-Nirvana major label cash hemmorhaging, Jonathan Fire*Eater probably had the most high-profile trajectory of "a MILLION dollar contract --> total flop album --> drugs --> cautionary tale --> obscure footnote." It's a really great album, though.
You forgot the absolute nadir of the trajectory:
Million dollar contract --> total flop album --> drugs --> cautionary tale --> obscure footnote --> The Walkmen.
― ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Saturday, 25 September 2010 01:55 (fifteen years ago)
that Bingo by Catch is incredible, it's like the Motherbanger of Britpop
― Underground - Parking (2010) (sic), Saturday, 25 September 2010 06:52 (fifteen years ago)
Oh ILY ilxor. Madly.
― cee-oh-tee-tee, Saturday, 25 September 2010 12:24 (fifteen years ago)
Oh man, there was this band called Zeno who apparently had a "million pound deal" (whatever that actually means) with EMI around 1986. They made it to the front cover of Kerrang, the album flopped and everyone had forgotten about them 2 weeks later. The main guy was Uli Jon Roth's brother btw, didn't help much though. Here's what they sounded like :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrB_kuXuiPU
― the same relation to machines as that which machines have to man (Matt #2), Saturday, 25 September 2010 12:30 (fifteen years ago)
Would Pink Lady qualify for this thread?
― the same relation to machines as that which machines have to man (Matt #2), Saturday, 25 September 2010 12:31 (fifteen years ago)
was that Jonathan Fire Eater album ever any good?
― raging hetero lifechill (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 25 September 2010 12:50 (fifteen years ago)
I thought so. Better than the Walkmen, which might be damning them with faint praise.
― Neil S, Saturday, 25 September 2010 13:09 (fifteen years ago)
In fairness, though, 99% of bands are better than the Walkmen...
― ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Saturday, 25 September 2010 14:09 (fifteen years ago)
O-Town
― corey, Saturday, 25 September 2010 14:37 (fifteen years ago)
Atanas
(this will make sense only to the Detroiters out there)
― henry s, Saturday, 25 September 2010 14:40 (fifteen years ago)