Rolling Metal Thread 2010

This bit of ILM is significantly more welcoming than most of the other genre threads, IMO.

Rolling Metal is pretty nice and awesome in general.

Also, new Torche out today. Looking forward to it.

argh there would still be a rolling metal thread here, the board would be for other stuff that doesn't get much discussion. 99% of posts here are about new albums/promos/leaks.
Viceroy already explained why some people don't join in here and its just the same old posters. He feels a board would welcome non-diehard posters other than just the usual suspects.
Why cant we just trial it until the end of the year see how it goes?

as a lurker, i can't guarantee i'd take part on a full board, either, but i would kind of welcome some smaller discussions of specific artists/styles/eras/albums/whatever. i love this thread, but it does tend to follow a promo/leak schedule. i mean, i get promos, but i get them pretty late (i work at a weekly), and usually discussion's already passed by.

i like the idea of a trial run.

metal's part of music, is covered under "i love music," no need for a separate board in my opinion.

but pfunk having a rolling thread here AND a subboard would be even more confusing and ppl would have no idea where to post anything

i actually want to know what would be getting posted on this new board that couldn't find a home on "i love music"

i would say, if we want to try something, try creating more metal threads on ilm first

yeah, there are a bunch of rap threads -- if you want to discuss some specific metal genre or artist, just do what cad said

I mean, we have a bruno mars got arrested for cocaine possession thread, so I don't think people will protest a "specific metal band" thread or a "what's good in grindcore right now?" thread

yeah we act like more content-filled ilm threads would be a bad thing

i would say, if we want to try something, try creating more metal threads on ilm first

― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 15:14 (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

^this

This bit of ILM is significantly more welcoming than most of the other genre threads, IMO.

― Duran (Doran), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 14:05 (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

^also this - I stated, in writing, my intent to post more on the bobbins thread this year but a few weeks in people were so fucking insufferable that I could hardly be bothered looking at it after that

look why cant we have a 3 month trial run. If the majority at the end of that want to scrap it, we do?

Remember by creating more threads on ILM they will drop off new answers page very quickly. All I'm asking is we have a 3 month trial. If anyone wants to keep this rolling metal thread going at the sametime then thats good too.

man, seems like you're hellbent on starting this but I just don't think most of the people on here really want it to happen.

^

for the record, I'd prob post on the metal board because I like metal threads. but the idea strikes me as a bit unnecessary.

bit like markers above "post"

Herman <3 bro but admit that if you get this you will start linking to all the polls you start on I Love Metal here on the rolling metal thread. and reminder posts that the polls are closing. etc. And it will be a drag, and you will say, well if you guys would just move it over to I Love Metal, I wouldn't need to keep doing this! And it'll be just unnecessary tension. I Love Jazz, I Love Rock, I Love Pre-Baroque Polyphony...none of these are needed, because we Love Music generally speaking.

nope, i wont smithy. How about we have no polls on I Love Metal?

Who says yes to a 3 month trial (with no polls)?
Who says no full stop?

I'm against it.

polls are very much an ILE & ILM thing as you need a lot of people for them. A separate board would be all discussion led.

think u know where i stand

Whatever it is, I'm against it.

well i wish more would post here rather than just lurk, why do you lurkers not post here?

Well I for one don't post much in general on ILX because I don't have the time - I waste enough already reading it without getting into actual discussions. Specifically I don't post on Rolling Metal because, like I said, I am something of a metal dilettante and I have only become an active listener in the last couple of years. I really have no idea about what is going on in the scene, what is being released etc - Rolling Metal/ILM is the only resource I use for metal, except for the rare occasions when the Wire has an article on it. If Rolling Metal says go listen to this band I do; if a band isn't mentioned on here, then I probably will never get to hear them - so no pressure guys!

When I have posted, everyone seems very friendly. The idea that someone would be intimidated by a message board does not compute for me.

ps no to the 3 month trial as well.

count me as a "no" as well. sorry, dude.

What about an I Love Satan board that just coincidently has a ton of metal threads on it? eh???

no need for a separate board imo. personally prefer Rolling Metal + bookmark to keeping track of a whole new board.

i vote yes on an I Love Satan board, however.

I vote no on I Love Satin. Got to draw the line somewhere.

So, back to the topic - anyone picking up new stuff today? I'm intrigued by the Opeth live DVD/CD set (though not sure if I want the cds or not) and Dawnbringer looks promising based on the one song I heard.

gonna pick up the torche. know nothing of dawnbringer beyond mentions here--what kind of stuff is it?

Ok, looks like nobody seems to be much into the idea. I think at least a trial run of an I Love Metal board is a good idea. I would post a lot in it, and I don't post much in this thread because like I said, you are all very nice and way more easygoing than others on this board -- the point is the lightning quick very deep discussion of things that don't even come out for months loses a lot of people who would otherwise love to chat about metal.

There is a Dawnbringer song you can stream at the Profound Lore site - I'm crap at descriptions. The song is called Swing Hard

do you all think a dedicated board would get more posters beyond the regulars on here since this thread is offputting to some for all the reasons previously discussed? Or would that be a bad thing everyone just likes the thread exactly as it is now with no noobs?

Viceroy, just start a discussion here on whatever; there are always people talking across one another, like a group of friends at a dinner table. Often times, bringing something up that's been abandoned by critics upthread gets them to post impressions of living with the album for months and what's changed. Adrien does that pretty regularly (when he's not out touring the old country like he is now).

I vote no. Seems unnecessary. I'm always happy to discuss a record I've had for a few months when I'm not crazy busy like I have been recently.

New Cradle of Filth is actually quite good. Still has some Filth-as-usual, but they play around with enough unusual classical melodies to make it worthwhile.

plenty of noobs come to this thread and it's not really that intimidating. besides which, it's not like the discussion is suffering for lack of new blood. this thread does a great job of being metal central. if an album/band/event merits further discussion, I, or anybody, can start a thread about that album/band/event. starting a new board just seems really pointless to me

pfunk that's bullshit man no one here ever said they wanted to exclude anyone.

dont you find it annoying though that you need to wade through crap on stuff like dummy burger or cradle of filth just to find one post on an album (and its always a promo/new album) and the discussions moved on, then if you try to restart it, others just ignore it and talk about more new promos. This thread should be more than just for journos

xpS HAH

there are always people talking across one another, like a group of friends at a dinner table.

this is a perfect encapsulation of what's good about this thread

FYI: If you only find one post there wasn't a discussion at any point.

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dude I don't know how thin-skinned a person has to be to find this thread intimidating but that person should also probably avoid perilous daily expeditions like going to the curb to get the newspaper - never know if somebody'll say something mean to you while you're out there.

Herman are you just gonna ignore the evidence that the things that bother you about this thread *don't bother many other people, if any*? you're here evangelizing for an imagined cause that's more "Herman's complaints about the metal thread"

sometimes you dont get a discussion as a bunch of promos come out and something might get ignored.
xps

smithy, iirc its not just me, viceroy has made complaints and mte and unperson also liked the idea of a board, so it's not just me.

so then.....start the discussion! if ppl want to talk about it, they will.

i'm pretty sure i said this to you when we were arguing about polls or something but dude you can't *make* people do things.

I was a noob back in 05/06 and just started reading the rolling thread and asking questions - I had dropped metal for about 15 years so was hopelessly lost. Aero, Adrien, Scott, Unperson and the everyone else answered my silly questions, gave me lists of things to check out and have been the most convivial guides to music I've ever met. As I said before, it's like a table of friends, and as more people show up we all make room. It's like we're the metal Olive Garden.

Stop spamming the thread. As someone very intelligently pointed out up thread, the rap guys don't seem to have any difficulty starting new threads for every artist/song/individual beat that catches their fancy. If you don't want to read about Cradle of Filth, ignore those posts. It's pretty simple.

spamming? ffs