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I'm still very interested, just realizing how broke I am.

― R_S (RSLaRue), Friday, 3 November 2006 22:27 (nineteen years ago)

new album is solo or jihen?

― chaki (chaki), Friday, 3 November 2006 22:32 (nineteen years ago)

yeah, it's fucking thirty-six dollars for this, if you can find it. that does factor in. xpost

the other downside of jasrac pulling j-pop from youtube is that the commercially unavailable Domestic! Virgin Line clips from february are gone. Just Can't Help It is better overall, but the live versions of 'Souretsu' and 'Ideal Days For Ultramarine'... those need to come out somewhere soon.

new album is solo!

― milton parker (Jon L), Friday, 3 November 2006 22:41 (nineteen years ago)

really looking forward to new stuff. I was just listening to KZKNH today, and aside from some lag towards the end, it sounds better than ever.

also, wtf @ the tracklinks to this thread?

― A. Lingbert (A. Lingbert), Saturday, 4 November 2006 03:19 (nineteen years ago)

I will probably buy a new solo album, I'm sure. No EP. No videos now, because that means buying a new DVD player, which I still haven't done.

tracklinks?

― R_S (RSLaRue), Saturday, 4 November 2006 03:27 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, I see. Weird.

― R_S (RSLaRue), Saturday, 4 November 2006 03:28 (nineteen years ago)

trackbacks, i meant.

― A. Lingbert (A. Lingbert), Saturday, 4 November 2006 03:38 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, I got it. I normally don't have that displayed.

― R_S (RSLaRue), Saturday, 4 November 2006 03:40 (nineteen years ago)

How about some free limited edition bonus DVDs for her American fans?

― R_S (RSLaRue), Sunday, 5 November 2006 18:51 (nineteen years ago)

Does anyone know what a yokusaku is?

― R_S (RSLaRue), Sunday, 5 November 2006 18:52 (nineteen years ago)

Nope. But a "yakusoku" is a promise. If that's what you meant...

― xgurggleglgllg (xgurggleglgllg), Monday, 6 November 2006 01:49 (nineteen years ago)

From a comment on the blog milton linked to above:

The descriptions given all over the place indicate that the album is an "iyokusaku", just like "KARUKI ZAAMEN KURI NO HANA", so I think Ringo'll be producing the album again.

― R_S (RSLaRue), Monday, 6 November 2006 01:57 (nineteen years ago)

Hmmmm.....
iyoku= desire or ambition

saku= harvest or bloom

Maybe it's those two words put together, I guess that'd kinda make sense. Wanting to blossom creatively or something.... beats me.

― xgurggleglgllg (xgurggleglgllg), Monday, 6 November 2006 02:06 (nineteen years ago)

Shiina Manzanita, hahaha:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FC-u0c2w7hg

― R_S (RSLaRue), Sunday, 19 November 2006 17:55 (nineteen years ago)

You can listen to the new song with Soil & Pimp Sessions here:

http://blog.naver.com/delico4u/70010525142

― R_S (RSLaRue), Sunday, 19 November 2006 18:43 (nineteen years ago)

Live DVD excerpts showing up on myspace:

http://vidsearch.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=747236124

― R_S (RSLaRue), Sunday, 19 November 2006 20:07 (nineteen years ago)

It may sound backwards, but I'm thinking this Soil & Pimp Sessions collaboration might help Shiina Ringo crossover more outside of Japan. I have run across more people (online) who know about Soil & Pimp than I would have expected. Get a few jazz fans who also have ears for pop and rock and that could be a wedge that opens up more of an audience for SR. (OTOH, her "jazz" singing might not be the best entree for jazz fans. I don't consider her a jazz singer, even if sometimes her attempts in that direction work out. She doesn't sound sufficiently at home in a very jazz-oriented setting to be a jazz singer--too much strain.)

― R_S (RSLaRue), Monday, 20 November 2006 20:29 (nineteen years ago)

Weird, I was planning on blogging about "Souretsu" because it came up on random and I thought it was Cale and Riley's "Church of Anthrax" at first.

― roc u like a § (ex machina), Monday, 20 November 2006 20:47 (nineteen years ago)

I love the new song (title translates to 'temporary virgin (deathjazz version)'). need to check out a Soil & Pimp album.

― milton parker (Jon L), Monday, 20 November 2006 21:40 (nineteen years ago)

ysi?

― roc u like a § (ex machina), Monday, 20 November 2006 23:07 (nineteen years ago)

check Leonardo & upthread

― milton parker (Jon L), Monday, 20 November 2006 23:51 (nineteen years ago)

one month passes...

Looking over these translations, I am finding her lyrics are a lot more consistently dark than I'd realized. (I wish I knew Japanese and that it wouldn't take me forever to learn it if I seriously wanted to.)

(This thread does not come up in ilx search, incidentally.)

― R_S (RSLaRue), Thursday, 4 January 2007 15:57 (nineteen years ago)

which means that you have this thread bookmarked, don't you. admit it.

usually, the happier her music, the more devestating the lyrics are. it's the way in to her relentlessly perky new material -- she's singing about double suicide, betrayal, ghosts, the end of the world, graphically uneasy sex with someone she can't trust, etc.

and this new single is incredible. I'm playing it over and over. once again, after a brief intro in japanese, all in english. the bittersweet harmonies going into the chorus, it's actually as sad as it is happy. it's so good.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MR_OzfBeiSU

― milton parker (Jon L), Thursday, 4 January 2007 20:50 (nineteen years ago)

video, .avi file (worth it to see it big -- reminds me of a Jacques Demy musical). and an mp3 rip. cheers to members migoto & squee.

― milton parker (Jon L), Thursday, 4 January 2007 20:59 (nineteen years ago)

I have made the following shiina spottings:

- sampled on O.lamm's new "Monolith" album.
- field recorded on Sarah Peebles' "Walking Through Tokyo At The Turn Of The Century" album

Things I have belatedly noticed on her sleeve art: On Gibusu she is cutting her hand & on Mayonaka wa Junketsu she is a mannequin. I had to see them in person to notice.

― xcixxorx (xcixxorx), Thursday, 4 January 2007 21:27 (nineteen years ago)

which means that you have this thread bookmarked, don't you. admit it.

Actually, I found it by searching Google and finding it in someone else's bookmarks, which I now do have bookmarked.

― R_S (RSLaRue), Thursday, 4 January 2007 22:33 (nineteen years ago)

So what's the deal with her mother being a ballerina, or having been a ballerina? Why haven't I heard more about that angle? That puts the whole fact that she was told she couldn't be a ballerina in a different light.

― R_S (RSLaRue), Thursday, 4 January 2007 23:43 (nineteen years ago)

Oh my god, I think it's a danzon (not that I particularly like them, but still--cool, man!): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrZzsALGkaU

― R_S (RSLaRue), Friday, 5 January 2007 01:16 (nineteen years ago)

Actually maybe just a tango, but they are kind of related.

― R_S (RSLaRue), Friday, 5 January 2007 01:17 (nineteen years ago)

She certainly writes a lot about prostitution.

― R_S (RSLaRue), Friday, 5 January 2007 14:58 (nineteen years ago)

so is tokyo jihen officially called tokyo incidents? like was it a real change or just something they did for adult?

― A. Lingbert (A. Lingbert), Saturday, 6 January 2007 03:31 (nineteen years ago)

Oh yeah the CD does say Incidents doesn't it? I think everyone still says "Tokyo Jihen" too, including the band.

― R_S (RSLaRue), Saturday, 6 January 2007 04:00 (nineteen years ago)

from the ringo jihen site:

FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS
#What is the band actually called, Tokyo Jihen or Tokyo Incident?
The real name is Tokyo Jihen (actually the exact transliteration would be Toukyou Jihen), but in some Western sites, and sometimes in TJ's official site, they are called Tokyo Incident, which is none other that the translation of the original name.

― A. Lingbert (A. Lingbert), Saturday, 6 January 2007 21:44 (nineteen years ago)

I'm glad that satisfies you.

― R_S (RSLaRue), Saturday, 6 January 2007 22:11 (nineteen years ago)

So now we are waiting for the "solo" Shiina Ringo album Heisei Fuzoku, with the following tracks:

01 - Gamble (ƒMƒƒƒ“ƒuƒ‹)
02 - Kuki (Œs)
03 - Sakuran (TERRA ver.) (ö—)
04 - Hatsukoi Shoujo (ƒnƒcƒRƒC©—)
05 - Papaya Mango (ƒpƒpƒCƒ„ƒ}ƒ“ƒS[)
06 - Ishiki (ˆÓŽ¯)
07 - Yokushitsu (—Žº)
08 - Meisai (–ÀÊ)
09 - Poltergeist (ƒ|ƒ‹ƒ^[ƒKƒCƒXƒg)
10 - Karisome Otome (TAMEIKESANNOH ver.) (ƒJƒŠƒ\ƒ‰³—)
11 - Oiran (‰ÔŠ@)
12 - Yume no Ato (–²‚Ì‚ ‚Æ)
13 - Kono Yo no Kagiri (‚±‚Ì–é‚ÌŒÀ‚è)

Further updates (and a new PV) here:

http://ringoran.wordpress.com/

― R_S (RSLaRue), Saturday, 6 January 2007 22:16 (nineteen years ago)

I've promised myself that I would take a break from hyping Shiina Ringo, at least until the new CD is out, but I thought it was worth mentioning that apparently Tokyo Jihen's drummer broke his hand, and some people are speculating that that's why SR is putting out this solo album, perhaps as a stopgap measure. (Of course, she was asked to do some songs for a movie, as well, so I guess there might have been some new solo tracks regardless, but perhaps not a whole album.)

― R_S (RSLaRue), Monday, 8 January 2007 15:58 (nineteen years ago)

Milton, if you see this, there's some interesting new stuff available in the media section of the R. Jihen forum. (Downloading something now.)

― R_S (RSLaRue), Thursday, 11 January 2007 16:07 (nineteen years ago)

(well, one interesting new stuff)

― R_S (RSLaRue), Thursday, 11 January 2007 16:10 (nineteen years ago)

Cover of forthcoming solo album (apparently anyway):

http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/pictures/s/16/34/TOCT-26210.jpg

― R_S (RSLaRue), Saturday, 13 January 2007 21:07 (nineteen years ago)

http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/7463/heiseimt2.jpg

― R_S (RSLaRue), Sunday, 14 January 2007 03:52 (nineteen years ago)

OK I got KZK and it is living up to the hype. Now to find translations of the lyrics.

― sleeve (sleeve), Saturday, 27 January 2007 19:32 (nineteen years ago)

http://freckle.tenkeimedia.com/nl/ringo/kalksamen.html

― R_S (RSLaRue), Saturday, 27 January 2007 19:35 (nineteen years ago)

thanks!

― sleeve (sleeve), Saturday, 27 January 2007 19:53 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.risingstuff.com/personal/sroricon.jpg

― R_S (RSLaRue), Sunday, 28 January 2007 13:47 (nineteen years ago)

http://shiinaringo.se/pics/Magazines/Rockin%20on%20Japan%20vol%20308%20January%

― R_S (RSLaRue), Sunday, 28 January 2007 13:51 (nineteen years ago)

(00ps!)

― R_S (RSLaRue), Sunday, 28 January 2007 13:51 (nineteen years ago)

Anyway: http://shiinaringo.se/pics/index.php?sortby=name&dir=.%2FMagazines%2FRockin+on+Japan+vol+308+January+2007

― R_S (RSLaRue), Sunday, 28 January 2007 13:53 (nineteen years ago)

'Sakuran' to premiere at Berlin Film has been building buzz in Japan
By MARK SCHILLINGTOKYO -- "Sakuran," the debut feature by photog Mika Ninagawa, has been selected in the Berlin Film Festival's Special section, distrib Asmik Ace has announced.
The Feb. 9 screening will be the pic's world premiere, preceding its Feb. 24 opening in Japan.
Based on a manga by Moyoco Anno, the pic stars Anna Tsuchiya ("Kamikaze Girls") as an oiran (high-class prostitute) in the feudal-era Tokyo red-light district of Yoshiwara.
The pic has been getting a huge amount of buzz in Japan for its splashy visuals, Tsuchiya's pull-out-the-stops perf and the eclectic jazz/pop score by pop diva Ringo Shina.
Both Ninagawa and Tsuchiya will travel to Berlin for the screening --and their first red-carpet appearances at a major international fest.
Ninagawa is the daughter of theater director Yukio Ninagawa, known for his experimental stagings of Shakespeare and Greek classics around the world.

Read the full article at:
http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117957980.html

― R_S (RSLaRue), Sunday, 28 January 2007 14:10 (nineteen years ago)

God she is fucking brilliant: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrZzsALGkaU

(This drastically reworks an earlier song, with typical aplomb. With a little help from Saito Neko, her George Martin, perhaps.)

― R_S (RSLaRue), Sunday, 28 January 2007 14:29 (nineteen years ago)

finally found a copy of the new single at Amoeba this weekend. the cover image of Shiina & Saito folds out to a landscape of Tokyo, the packaging on her singles trump most artists' album packaging.

I'm still completely addicted to 'Konoyo Yo Kagiri'. Seemingly so happy but with some real poison in the lyrics and the harmonies. The other two songs are an alt arrangement & an instrumental of tracks from the new album -- the instrumental of 'Temporary Virgin' is on the soundtrack of what R_S just linked, sounds like an ultra-ornamented take on Astor Piazolla circa the late 80's Kip Hanrahan productions like Rough Dancer and the Cyclical Night.

Apart from the first verse of 'Konoyo', all the lyrics are in English. And this is the first ever single of hers that's been available on iTunes UK. The five clips of songs from the new album are mostly in english. The push is coming. All those people too busy complaining about the lack of substance with Norah Jones, this album is looking right over your shoulder waiting for you to turn around.

Those five clips are something -- the whole album is arranged for 70 piece orchestra by Saito, but there's still some strange KZK-ish production on the third clip, 'Firstlove Prostitute'. I am counting the seconds until 2/21.

― milton parker (Jon L), Monday, 5 February 2007 21:16 (nineteen years ago)

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