― Bryan (Bryan), Friday, 14 March 2003 19:59 (twenty-one years ago) link
These bands weren't predecessors of Killing Joke, they were peers.
i find it extremly hard to beleave that Jaz Dosen't even Like New Order, what about their synth rock/pop tracks? they weren't the first.
Whoever said the Joke don't like New Order? Jaz has gone on record a few times saying Joy Division were one of the few of their fellow bands he actually liked and respected. Moreover, Peter Hook actually filled in on bass detail for Killing Joke for a very brief spell.
shur they were inspirational!
Awfully big of you.
... but i don't see them as the most inspirational Post Punk band.
Who said they were? My point, however, is that they don't get the recognition they rightfully deserve.
There were lots of Post punk bands that were far more inspirational for the "heavy sound" today than KJ, doesn't anyone see that?
Post-Punk in itself wasn't exactly a wellspring of 'heavy,' though. The Joke paired the fresher, spartan approach of what was turning into "post-punk" and paired it with a heavier sound that owed more to the more conventional Punk Rock and Metal before it. I defy you to name a post-punk band who were heavier than Killing Joke. Gang of Four? No. Joy Division? Not quite. Public Image Ltd.? No.
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 14 March 2003 20:01 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 14 March 2003 20:02 (twenty-one years ago) link
"I defy you to name a post-punk band who were heavier than Killing Joke"i woun't argue with you on who's heavier, but just trieng to slagg of someone with a different opinion then you is revoulting.
― webb, Friday, 14 March 2003 20:22 (twenty-one years ago) link
― webb, Friday, 14 March 2003 20:28 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Bryan (Bryan), Friday, 14 March 2003 20:49 (twenty-one years ago) link
hahaha yeah, sorry for getting carried away there.
― webb, Friday, 14 March 2003 21:14 (twenty-one years ago) link
And I'd still disagree with you about the Birthday Party being "heavier" (which is in absolutely no way to disparage the Birthday Party). I'm merely speaking of these two bands' respective sounds. The Birthday Party's rather brooding demeanor may rival Killing Joke's, but their literal sonic output doesn't match the sheer weight and brute force of the Joke's.
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 14 March 2003 22:35 (twenty-one years ago) link
http://www.an-irrational-domain.net/images/geordie/geordie16.JPG
― Geordie K. Walker (vassifer), Friday, 14 March 2003 22:47 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Dr. C (Dr. C), Saturday, 15 March 2003 10:11 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 15 March 2003 10:52 (twenty-one years ago) link
― webb, Saturday, 15 March 2003 13:37 (twenty-one years ago) link
In any event, here's a shot of Jaz with the Foo Fighters onstage recently in Auckland. HE LIVES!
http://www.foofighters.com/blackbox/pictures/2003_01_16_auckland/images/FF_2003_AUCKLAND_GALATOS0066.jpg
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 15 March 2003 22:04 (twenty-one years ago) link
Ah, yes, Dave "Put Me In Your Band Please!!!" Grohl. What the hell? Does he go thru cash MC Hammer-style or something?
― Ally (mlescaut), Saturday, 15 March 2003 22:29 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Sunday, 16 March 2003 00:45 (twenty-one years ago) link
― webb, Sunday, 16 March 2003 10:07 (twenty-one years ago) link
What is there to like about New Order? Apart from their name, obviously.
― mei (mei), Sunday, 16 March 2003 11:19 (twenty-one years ago) link
Personally, I fuckin' love New Order, but y'know....whatever.
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Sunday, 16 March 2003 21:13 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Ally (mlescaut), Sunday, 16 March 2003 21:34 (twenty-one years ago) link
The wife's favorite song of theirs, actually.
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Sunday, 16 March 2003 23:06 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Ally (mlescaut), Sunday, 16 March 2003 23:12 (twenty-one years ago) link
'My Love of this Land' was a great single.
― russ t, Monday, 17 March 2003 11:12 (twenty-one years ago) link
― girl scout heroin (iamamonkey), Monday, 17 March 2003 14:12 (twenty-one years ago) link
http://www.killingjoke.com/
http://www.maliciousdamage.co.uk/
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 3 April 2003 12:56 (twenty-one years ago) link
So that'll be my special limited edition original 1980 cassette version devalued by about 99% then!
― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Thursday, 3 April 2003 13:32 (twenty-one years ago) link
ME BIG HAPPY!
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 3 April 2003 13:43 (twenty-one years ago) link
Forgot to say thanks for this. I've now read I think every article they've got on both of those.It's certainly put a new spin on the music for me.
Great to see how their behaviour in interviews has evolved over the years and how they, Jaz in particular, have changed.
Looks like there'll be a new album sort of soon too, which I'm equally aprehensive and excited about.
― mei (mei), Thursday, 3 April 2003 14:01 (twenty-one years ago) link
Regarding the new album, The Death & Resurrection Show, word `round the campfire is that Dave Grohl has completed recording the drums tracks for the new album, and they're currently being mixed by a gent named Clive Goddard.
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 3 April 2003 19:29 (twenty-one years ago) link
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― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 20:58 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 21:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 21:03 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 10 April 2003 02:13 (twenty-one years ago) link
― adam (adam), Thursday, 10 April 2003 03:54 (twenty-one years ago) link
Alex, it says that Fugazi have covered KJ, do you know what/when/where?
― mei (mei), Thursday, 10 April 2003 06:57 (twenty-one years ago) link
But this thread made me greatly miss my Killing Joke T-shirt, which I wore until there was nothing left of it to wear. That was like the best damn T-shirt I ever had, the Daisy Buchanan of my T-shirts.
― Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 10 April 2003 08:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Justyn Dillingham (Justyn Dillingham), Thursday, 10 April 2003 08:03 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 10 April 2003 08:06 (twenty-one years ago) link
Yeah, I saw that too. I think it's a mistake. The bands I'm aware of who have attempted to cover the Joke (usually with shite results) are: Metallica ("The Wait"), Foo Fighters ("Requiem"), Icehouse ("Love Like Blood"), Helmet ("Complications"), Godflesh ("Requiem"), Amen ("Europe"), the Mad Capsule Markets ("Wardance"), Love like Blood (lamentable Goth band take who not only butchered the song, but sullied its good name by adopting it as their moniker). I've heard rumours that Sarah McLachlan covered "Love Like Blood" live, but I've never heard it.
On a different point, I wonder what ol' Courtney Love has to say now that Grohl has gone public about working with the Joke.
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 10 April 2003 13:11 (twenty-one years ago) link
I've got a cover of 'Primitive' done by Helmet, but not 'Complications'.
I know Grohl doesn't like Love or maybe vice-versa.
Personally I think KJ should cover Heart Shaped Box, which is supposedly about Courtney, but change the lyrics and claim it's their own. Then send her a Christmas card telling her they've never heard of her.
― mei (mei), Thursday, 10 April 2003 14:14 (twenty-one years ago) link
Ack! You're right, it is "Primitive." Sorry about that.
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 10 April 2003 14:37 (twenty-one years ago) link
http://www.rollingstone.com/news/newsarticle.asp?nid=17876
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 10 April 2003 18:44 (twenty-one years ago) link
http://www.foofighters.com/press/press_entry.php?id=207
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 11 April 2003 02:20 (twenty-one years ago) link
Also, it's been said in the above, but anyway, from www.blabbermouth.net:
FOO FIGHTERS frontman/ex-NIRVANA drummer Dave Grohl has laid down the drum tracks for the new KILLING JOKE album, tentatively titled "Axis of Evil", according to Billboard. The project, which will be out in June on Sony worldwide, was produced by GANG OF FOUR's Andy Gill and is the veteran U.K. rock act's first since 1996's "Democracy".
Grohl, who is said to be a huge KILLING JOKE fan, met the group's leader, Jaz Coleman, in New Zealand recently and agreed to play on the album. They recorded the drum tracks the last week of March in Los Angeles. Grohl has no plans to tour with the band, like he did with QUEENS OF THE STONE AGE last year in support of their Interscope album "Songs For The Deaf" after contributing drum tracks to that release.
The reunited KILLING JOKE, who were last believed to be working with a lineup featuring Coleman, guitarist Geordie, bassist Paul Raven (ex-PRONG), and drummer Ted Parsons (ex-GODFLESH/PRONG), were previously reported to have completed work on a new studio album at the end of last year. The CD, then tentatively titled "The Death & Resurrection Show", was said to have been tracked in London and Los Angeles and was set to feature guest appearances from members of TOOL and SYSTEM OF A DOWN. It is not presently clear if any of those initial recordings will surface as part of the new collection
― mei (mei), Friday, 11 April 2003 06:30 (twenty-one years ago) link
Out today!!!! Not the new album, but the official release of age-old bootleg.
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 14 April 2003 12:23 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Ally (mlescaut), Monday, 14 April 2003 12:31 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 14 April 2003 12:36 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Ally (mlescaut), Monday, 14 April 2003 12:44 (twenty-one years ago) link
Teeheehee. I was briefly in a band called Requiem once and we were every bit as awful as you'd imagine a band with a name like "Requiem" would be. I bet you can't guess what KJ song we used to cover....
― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Tuesday, 15 April 2003 11:37 (twenty-one years ago) link
Anyway, this would be, uh, first album ish - maybe late 1980 / early 81 and I thought they sounded like the early Banshees with a mad bloke singing. Thats not a bad thing, in fact they were quite good but a bit limited and one dimensional.
The support band were called Boots for Dancing and I liked them loads.
Oh and KJ were great doing The Empire Song on TOTP the week of the Falklands.
― Alexander Blair, Tuesday, 15 April 2003 16:07 (twenty-one years ago) link
― JP Almeida (JP Almeida), Tuesday, 15 April 2003 16:08 (twenty-one years ago) link