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I highly recommend it

Dr. Lol Evans (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 17 September 2010 21:12 (fifteen years ago)

if just for the bit where Sly's pitbull Gun tries to eat his baby, and his wife (at the time) has to wrestle the kid away from the dog and flee the house

Dr. Lol Evans (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 17 September 2010 21:13 (fifteen years ago)

five months pass...

Just pulled down Listen to the Voices: Sly Stone in the Studio 1965-1970, which collects all his production work from that time period -- and frankly, OMG. There's a pretty awesome sampling of all the work he was doing at the time -- one of the Beau Brummels tracks sounds like Sly producing the Byrds.

But the real treasure trove on this is the circa-1970 Stone Flower stuff. The sound of There's a Riot Goin' On is there--all the Maestro King drum machines, wah guitars and clavinets, etc. plugged in direct--but the vibe as a whole is not quite as despairing. It's all great -- highlights including Joe Hicks' "Life and Death in the G&A" and 6IX's "Dynamite" and "I'm Just Like You" (the latter of which has a drum machine part one review I read described as a windshield wiper).

In particular, tho, Little Sister's "You're the One (Parts 1 + 2)" is just about one of the best things Sly ever did -- the amazing ensemble vocals, an incredible groove and an outstanding tune. It's unbelievable that this stuff hasn't been reissued until now.

Here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2Yp2LIAGCk&feature=related

Naive Teen Idol, Sunday, 6 March 2011 02:52 (fifteen years ago)

"You're the One" is indeed awesome (I've had the original 7" for awhile) - there was a different, more disco-fied version issued in the late 70s, apparently

You hurt me deeply. You hurt me deeply in my heart. (Shakey Mo Collier), Sunday, 6 March 2011 03:56 (fifteen years ago)

i so so so wish little sister had completed an album. stanga and somebody's watching you are astonishing.

I'd rather climb into the saddle of my Ford Mustang and sink spurs (stevie), Sunday, 6 March 2011 09:45 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah, if you like Sly and you don't have that comp you are totally missing out. The Joe Hicks version of "Life and Death" is just insane. Oh and finding the "Somebody's Watching You"/"Stanga" 45 for a buck was a recent triumph.

Aquarian Necromancer Octopus (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Sunday, 6 March 2011 10:58 (fifteen years ago)

Oh and finding the "Somebody's Watching You"/"Stanga" 45 for a buck was a recent triumph.

this is the sort of story that might inspire me to start trawling dusty record stores again...

I'd rather climb into the saddle of my Ford Mustang and sink spurs (stevie), Sunday, 6 March 2011 11:14 (fifteen years ago)

how did i miss that 65-70 compilation?? Imma go get that now. thank you!

historyyy (prettylikealaindelon), Sunday, 6 March 2011 14:22 (fifteen years ago)

OMG, 20 seconds into the 65-70 comp and I'm sold. Best purchase this week!

Stockhausen's Ekranoplan Quartet (Elvis Telecom), Sunday, 6 March 2011 23:05 (fifteen years ago)

One of my fave comps of the last few years!

A happenstance discovery of asynchronous lesbians (Capitaine Jay Vee), Sunday, 6 March 2011 23:57 (fifteen years ago)

How did I miss this? That does look good.

curmudgeon, Monday, 7 March 2011 17:13 (fifteen years ago)

I think it's a bit more uneven than people are making it out to be, but there is some real gold on there, stuff that's been unavailable/out of print for ages

You hurt me deeply. You hurt me deeply in my heart. (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 7 March 2011 17:37 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah, I'm not saying every track is bee's knees -- the Stone Flower stuff pretty much lords over the rest of it. But most of it is pretty-good-to-great. I also enjoy the vampy version of "You Really Got Me."

Naive Teen Idol, Monday, 7 March 2011 20:00 (fifteen years ago)

three months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ki4GUz5Qwg

lol

winoa ryder sexes creatures of the night (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 23 June 2011 23:31 (fourteen years ago)

three months pass...

so sad:

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/the_rise_and_fall_of_sly_stone_qijyKoYzmAqer1PA0YogSJ

geeta, Monday, 26 September 2011 08:41 (fourteen years ago)

that is very sad.

curmudgeon, Monday, 26 September 2011 12:41 (fourteen years ago)

I want to say in that MOJO piece a couple of years ago that he was living in semi-squalor even then. Anyway, the guy's nuts and an addict. But most guys don't carry around a "get out of poverty" card like he does. If he could get his act together, he could play a few shows. But even Gil-Scott was doing better than this ...

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 26 September 2011 12:45 (fourteen years ago)

resonance had an hour or two about sly stone, sometime, um, within the last year that's really worth checking out.

Crackle Box, Monday, 26 September 2011 12:50 (fourteen years ago)

cocaine is so awesome!

I saw Mike Love walk by a computer once (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 26 September 2011 15:50 (fourteen years ago)

ugh wtf.

tylerw, Monday, 26 September 2011 16:26 (fourteen years ago)

I'd like to see the documentary they mention, but it looks like it barely played anywhere. It's only 74 minutes long, has eight IMDB ratings, and debuted on Netherlands television.

clemenza, Monday, 26 September 2011 16:34 (fourteen years ago)

wow, that's bad. He's basically like the homeless dude on our block, with about the same support network (ie neighbors).

WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Monday, 26 September 2011 17:18 (fourteen years ago)

If you're curious about what Sly's camper van era recordings sound like, here's a taste

Apparently there's a new album, mostly reworkings of catalogue material with special guests. Wish I could have been a fly on the wall when he crammed Ann Wilson into the van. Okay maybe not. More good news: it's on Cleopatra Records. Further good news: dubstep mix of Family Affair. That'll get Gaga's attention.

Mike Love's Jagger (Spectrist), Monday, 26 September 2011 17:20 (fourteen years ago)

oh good autotune

Air Supply dwarf belts helpless Packers fan (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 26 September 2011 17:34 (fourteen years ago)

Apparently there's a new album, mostly reworkings of catalogue material with special guests. Wish I could have been a fly on the wall when he crammed Ann Wilson into the van. Okay maybe not. More good news: it's on Cleopatra Records. Further good news: dubstep mix of Family Affair. That'll get Gaga's attention.

...please tell me you're kidding.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 26 September 2011 17:35 (fourteen years ago)

Ned, I'm so sorry, but the universe from which I am transmitting this news is not in some alternate parallel plane.

Mike Love's Jagger (Spectrist), Monday, 26 September 2011 17:37 (fourteen years ago)

My brain. Do you have a direct link to this info anywhere? People must be warned.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 26 September 2011 17:39 (fourteen years ago)

It's called (wait for it...) "I'm Back: Family and Friends" and here is the amazon link: http://www.amazon.com/Back-Family-Friends-Sly-Stone/dp/B0057JWWFU

Mike Love's Jagger (Spectrist), Monday, 26 September 2011 17:41 (fourteen years ago)

^^it got like, three stars in Rolling Stone.

The Man With The Flavored Toothpick (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 26 September 2011 17:53 (fourteen years ago)

so, almost as good as the SuperHeavy album then

Air Supply dwarf belts helpless Packers fan (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 26 September 2011 17:55 (fourteen years ago)

Yeah there was a display for this at Barnes & Noble, I picked it up and gave a firm shake of my head.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Monday, 26 September 2011 17:55 (fourteen years ago)

Sly is not credited as having played on the remake tracks; aside from the guest cameos the instruments were all played by Jurgen Engler and Chris Lietz. Hadn't heard of them but Wikipedia tells me they're former members of the German industrial rock band Die Krupps.

fit and working again, Monday, 26 September 2011 18:11 (fourteen years ago)

It's available on spotify if you're a masochist http://open.spotify.com/album/52C9QFWsfF3Kzb8riRPJzj if you thought that 'Dance To The Music' really needed Ray Manzarek to noodle all over it then it might be for you I guess.

The multi-talented F.R. David (Billy Dods), Monday, 26 September 2011 18:17 (fourteen years ago)

If you're curious about what Sly's camper van era recordings sound like, here's a taste

this is awesome?
seriously i would buy a record of this, it totally has the kinda slinky shuffly thing i love the most about sly. am really surprised + wanna hear more

mr. vertical (schlump), Monday, 26 September 2011 19:39 (fourteen years ago)

it is not awesome

Air Supply dwarf belts helpless Packers fan (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 26 September 2011 19:47 (fourteen years ago)

I hear what you're saying about it containing some of his readily identifiable stylistic tics but still

Air Supply dwarf belts helpless Packers fan (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 26 September 2011 19:49 (fourteen years ago)

"if i didn't love you, i wouldn't like your ass at all..."

i dig it

elan, Tuesday, 27 September 2011 00:54 (fourteen years ago)

"Family Stone" are touring here in a month or two* - anyone know who's in this apart from Vet Stone (og backing singer) and Cynthia Robinson (og horn/backing singer)?

*on a festival with Flaming Lips, Mogwai, Portishead, Death In Vegas, Holy Fuck and Mercury Rev

robocop last year was a 'shop (sic), Tuesday, 27 September 2011 01:17 (fourteen years ago)

I hear what you're saying about it containing some of his readily identifiable stylistic tics but still

Autotune or not, it's more interesting from a stylistic standpoint than I'd expect from a guy who hasn't made a record in 30 years.

Naive Teen Idol, Tuesday, 27 September 2011 03:21 (fourteen years ago)

I would buy a record of songs like that. It's really not bad.

Carpet Sharkin' (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Tuesday, 27 September 2011 08:38 (fourteen years ago)

Esp if they were hazy weirdly recorded demos like that.

Carpet Sharkin' (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Tuesday, 27 September 2011 08:38 (fourteen years ago)

yeah. i don't know whether there would be an inevitable 'let's get these into a studio & do them justice!' phase, at which the guy from the behind the scenes seinfeld segments who explains the various keyboard motifs used in the show suddenly pops up. but i would buy a record of those demos, word.

Autotune or not, it's more interesting from a stylistic standpoint than I'd expect from a guy who hasn't made a record in 30 years.

yeah it is just- like i would have expected some kind of watered down 'take' on the group's bigger/more out there in your face stuff rather than something that sits comfortably in the parameters of sloochy-solo-weird-keyboard jams

mr. vertical (schlump), Tuesday, 27 September 2011 12:04 (fourteen years ago)

yeah. i don't know whether there would be an inevitable 'let's get these into a studio & do them justice!' phase, at which the guy from the behind the scenes seinfeld segments who explains the various keyboard motifs used in the show suddenly pops up. but i would buy a record of those demos, word.

Autotune or not, it's more interesting from a stylistic standpoint than I'd expect from a guy who hasn't made a record in 30 years.

yeah it is just- like i would have expected some kind of watered down 'take' on the group's bigger/more out there in your face stuff rather than something that sits comfortably in the parameters of sloochy-solo-weird-keyboard jams

mr. vertical (schlump), Tuesday, 27 September 2011 12:04 (fourteen years ago)

the winding, kinda bluesy vocal melody & the keyboard part that comes in half way through are both great, i really love this

mr. vertical (schlump), Tuesday, 27 September 2011 12:07 (fourteen years ago)

& the keyboards/organs sound great, the underlying organ part is like a robert lippok record or something

mr. vertical (schlump), Tuesday, 27 September 2011 12:08 (fourteen years ago)

jeeeezus this is grim

unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 27 September 2011 23:34 (fourteen years ago)

have not watched, but assuming that tmz just zipped over to the guy's trailer to dig some dirt, maybe the documentary guy shouldn't have written a story about how sly lives in a van, included its permanent address & sold it to the post

mr. vertical (schlump), Tuesday, 27 September 2011 23:43 (fourteen years ago)

I don't think TMZ did the interview, it was originally posted here...?

http://www.5min.com/Video/Exclusive---Homeless-Music-Legend-Sly-Stone-Admits-To-Recent-Drug-Use-517169072

unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 27 September 2011 23:47 (fourteen years ago)

that was so sad I had to stop watching. One thing's clear, though--Sly's voice is gone...hell Sly himself seems nearly gone. I'd rather see that dude get healthy than hear any new music.

WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 28 September 2011 05:16 (fourteen years ago)

can barely bring myself to contemplate what's happened to the guy, 'riot' is sometimes my favorite album ever and 'stand' ain't far behind. just terrible to think about.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 28 September 2011 05:59 (fourteen years ago)


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