John Peel RIP

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And as i expected, watching Extreme noise terror last night:

"This is dedicated to our best friend. John Peel"

And so they played "Carry on screaming". Tear to the eye. Carry on indeed, John.

gerardo francisco, Thursday, 28 October 2004 22:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Just listening to Andy Kershaw's R3 tribute show now. Think it might only be up till tomorrow.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/aod/radio3_aod.shtml?andykershaw

Alba (Alba), Sunday, 7 November 2004 00:39 (twenty-one years ago)

I must admit that I never knew much about John Peel until now (I knew he was a DJ and I knew about the Peel Session discs, but that's it), and, being an American, I am quite envious of you Brits.

Hurting (Hurting), Sunday, 7 November 2004 05:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Kershaw's show was fucking awesome and I urge everyone reading this to click on the link above, before it goes away.

retort pouch (retort pouch), Sunday, 7 November 2004 05:53 (twenty-one years ago)

I must admit that I never knew much about John Peel until now (I knew he was a DJ and I knew about the Peel Session discs, but that's it), and, being an American, I am quite envious of you Brits.

Ha ha! OTM OTM! I've considered myself an anglophile since I was a teenager and have followed UK music religiously and yet I've never felt so envious of the Brits until I realized I actually knew very little about Peel, the man. I listened to his show a lot in the early 90's but wow I wish I'd been able to as a teenager. I remember considering getting a shortwave radio, even wrote down the correct frequency to use but I just don't think I had enough money then.

I'll check out the Kershaw show - I have been tuning in to the Rob Da Bank shows in the original Peel timeslot featuring music Peel picked and prerecorded Peel sessions that hadn't been broadcast yet. Also there is Peel doing a half hour show on the BBC World Service site that he recorded in advance - with two more of these shows on the way. (I say this for anyone outside the U.K. who might be looking for a way to hear the man himself in action)

I've recently been looking up the Festive 50 lists and trying to get ahold of any stray songs that I don't already know of yet. I have recently discovered I am head over heels for mid-80's band the Very Things - they were like Bauhaus crossed with The Fall crossed with Half Man Half Biscuit or some such wonderful thing - pop and goth at the same time. Incredible.

I'm gonna see if that Kershaw show is still up.

Bimble (bimble), Sunday, 7 November 2004 08:32 (twenty-one years ago)

It is still up! Listening to it as I type. Thanks!

Bimble (bimble), Sunday, 7 November 2004 09:05 (twenty-one years ago)

i did a peel session tribute today too on my 'vintage cuts' show.. played the fall, undertones, the banshees, gang of four, early pavement, pulp and stereolab..

chris andrews (fraew), Sunday, 7 November 2004 09:21 (twenty-one years ago)

The listen again thing seems to be being gay for me this morning but the playlist is here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio3/andykershaw/pip/9efk2/

Some good stuff there, bookended with spot-on choices. Neil Young's 'Country Home' is great: its the opener of 'Ragged Glory' & when I first got a copy I listened to that track about 20 times on repeat before I wanted to hear the rest of the album!

Mooro (Mooro), Sunday, 7 November 2004 10:59 (twenty-one years ago)

It's a great show. It's mainly music, but manages to remind me of the John Peel I knew better than anything else I've heard. Good old Kershaw.

Alba (Alba), Sunday, 7 November 2004 11:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Kershaw reminds me of Peel considerably more than Rob Da Bank does.

neil tacus (tacit), Sunday, 7 November 2004 11:37 (twenty-one years ago)

I guess we're old, but yes.

Alba (Alba), Sunday, 7 November 2004 11:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Watching the Peel documentary last night it struck me that the Punk revisionism that annoys so many in ILM (that stuff about not being "allowed" to like Yes etc) was John Peel's doing to a very large extent.

Soon Over Dadaismus (Dada), Sunday, 7 November 2004 15:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Did Peel actually stop playing prog etc. overnight when he discovered punk?

Alba (Alba), Sunday, 7 November 2004 15:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Punk didn't happen overnight so he didn't stop playing prog overnight but he expunged most of it as soon as he could and then airbrushed it out of his personal history and spent the rest of his career either ignoring it or sneering at it - including stuff he once liked

Soon Over Dadaismus (Dada), Sunday, 7 November 2004 15:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Economist obituary

john'n'chicago, Sunday, 7 November 2004 15:54 (twenty-one years ago)

So next time some twerp moans about how the "Punk Rock" orthodoxy prevents them from admitting to enjoying "Brain Salad Surgery" or "By-Tor the Snow Dog" then I'm gonna wave their precious St. John of Peel in their faces!

Soon Over Dadaismus (Dada), Sunday, 7 November 2004 15:56 (twenty-one years ago)

I am prevented from admitting to enjoying "Brain Salad Surgery" because everything I've ever heard from ELP sucked rocks, including that. "By-Tor" I like, though.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 7 November 2004 15:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Not sure the New Hipster Orthodoxy has rehabilitated Rush yet

Soon Over Dadaismus (Dada), Sunday, 7 November 2004 16:00 (twenty-one years ago)

There's that one (American? Canadian?) indie band that people were yakking about earlier this year that apparently was doing the Rush thing.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 7 November 2004 16:01 (twenty-one years ago)

What? Silly vocals, Ayn Rand or playing basslines with your feet? Or all three?

Soon Over Dadaismus (Dada), Sunday, 7 November 2004 16:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Probably.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 7 November 2004 16:07 (twenty-one years ago)

If you look at Peel in the 90s/ 00s he still carried on playing some art rock/ space rock/ ambient that was inspired be the pre-77 Peel years

Peel Sessions bands index 1992-2002
http://www.vheissu.freeserve.co.uk/bands.html

The Orb : who can forget that 20 minutes plus opus.. A Huge Ever Growing Pulsating Brain That Rules From The Centre Of The Ultraworld (Loving You)
Appliance
Nought
Aereogramme
Global Communications
The Boredoms
Circle
Godspeed You Black Emperor!
and Stereolab stole some music ideas from Hatfield and the North and National Health

DJ Martian (djmartian), Sunday, 7 November 2004 17:06 (twenty-one years ago)

The thing is, I doubt many punks had time for say, psychedelic folk, either, but I don't think he ever renounced the Incredible String Band et al.

Alba (Alba), Sunday, 7 November 2004 17:12 (twenty-one years ago)

i found this while surfing around enoweb today. it's a brief interview with thom yorke and brian eno on radio 4. i thought what they had to say was quite poignant.

tricky (disco stu), Sunday, 7 November 2004 22:01 (twenty-one years ago)

its not as if can, neu! and kraftwek (who were all noted as influences to a lot of the more experimental punk troops) weren't a million miles away from the psych and ambient bands of the era, either

chris andrews (fraew), Sunday, 7 November 2004 22:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Thousands mourn Peel at funeral
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/4005023.stm

DJ Martian (djmartian), Friday, 12 November 2004 16:46 (twenty-one years ago)

I found this picture of his wife and children to be very moving.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/40519000/jpg/_40519207_sheila300.jpg

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 12 November 2004 23:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Before punk came along, Peel had quite an ambivalent attitude to prog. I guess he had championed psychedelia from which prog arose but he never liked the pomposity found in some of prog. He used to call ELP, Emerson, Lake & Parker. (He had this theory that if you wanted to insult someone you should get their name slightly wrong.) He was quite a champion of Mike Oldfield's Tubular Bells.

Amarga (Amarga), Saturday, 13 November 2004 00:06 (twenty-one years ago)

The lack of consistency in Peel's taste over a period of 40 years is hardly surprising. He never made any bones about the fact that he liked to be proved wrong or to re-evaluate his taste through new developments in music and new things he was listening to.

Isn't this exactly what all of us mean when we say that music changed our lives? The difference with Peel was that it happened to him numerous times throughout his life in his thirties, forties, fifties - not just, unlike most people, just the once during adolescence.

Venga, Saturday, 13 November 2004 01:04 (twenty-one years ago)

He was quite a champion of Mike Oldfield's Tubular Bells

From what I understand, that song featured the voice of the only person Peel would have wanted to be instead of himself.

Ken L (Ken L), Saturday, 13 November 2004 03:04 (twenty-one years ago)

I just lost my shit watching the BBC News report about his funeral. Seeing his coffin being carried out of the cathedral while 'Teenage Kicks' blasted over the speakers was hilarious/righteous/unutterably sad. RIP John.

retort pouch (retort pouch), Saturday, 13 November 2004 03:36 (twenty-one years ago)

You think maybe THIS was enough to get Feargal Sharkey to get back together with his mates? It's not worth it.

Ken L (Ken L), Saturday, 13 November 2004 03:56 (twenty-one years ago)

eh?

retort pouch (retort pouch), Saturday, 13 November 2004 04:05 (twenty-one years ago)

I dunno. I had heard the Undertones had been touring without Feargal Sharkey. I had the thought that maybe they would be hanging out together at Peelie's funeral and they would reconcile. Maybe Feargal would show up at a show, march up to the stage, say "I can sing 'Teenage Kicks' better than that geezer," grab the mic and retake his rightful place at the front of the band. Then I thought, this was kind of a selfish fantasy so I posted a corny email to try and atone for it.

Ken L (Ken L), Saturday, 13 November 2004 04:15 (twenty-one years ago)

My apologies, I didn't realise that Ferg was estranged from the rest of the 'Tones.

retort pouch (retort pouch), Saturday, 13 November 2004 04:20 (twenty-one years ago)

He was quite a champion of Mike Oldfield's Tubular Bells

"...that song featured the voice of the only person Peel would have wanted to be ..."

OK, nobody took my meager bait up there. I was refering to comic genius Vivian Stanshall, a great mate of Peel's apparently. The other day I can across a copy of the brilliant "Sir Henry at Rawlinson's End," Viv's contribution P.G Wodehouse Upstairs/Downstairs comedy, and of course it eventually turned it out that Peel played a part in the making of it. Man, the guy really had a hand in everything. John Hammond couldn't shine his shoes.

Ken L (Ken L), Saturday, 13 November 2004 19:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Viv Shanshall was great. Peel used to have him in a lot in the 70s.

He had this theory that if you wanted to insult someone you should get their name slightly wrong

I remember him playing a Bowie track in about 1978 and saying 'If he'd been called Neil Bowie instead of David, do you think people would still revere him?'

Momus (Momus), Sunday, 14 November 2004 11:46 (twenty-one years ago)

He had Stanshall in regularly up until his death.

This may be worth a new thread, but a whole lot of people completely renounced prog around '77, and I think Peel wasn't the cause of this, just the most prominent example. When something new comes along it does cause a reevaluation of what's there, and punk, to a lot of us, felt like a very clear statement of what had been unsatisfactory in what had been on offer for the last few years in rock (this was obviously part of its explicit intent, even manifesto). I suspect it is hard to grasp the force of this impact if you are much younger than me, and I am struggling to think of something that has worked the same way more recently.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 14 November 2004 13:04 (twenty-one years ago)

does anyone know when this article by John Peel was published:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/prius/partthree/story/0,14196,1322037,00.html

Rethink

John Peel wants radio playlists scrapped and more stations taking risks with the music they play

Interview by Chris Borg

.........

These are words of wisdom from John Peel that everyone at Radio 1 and 6 Music should be made to read.

DJ Martian (djmartian), Sunday, 14 November 2004 17:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Just last month - 9th Oct.

Alba (Alba), Sunday, 14 November 2004 19:13 (twenty-one years ago)

John Peel Night on Radio 1 - 16th December
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/alt/johnpeel/keepitpeel.shtml

Keep It Peel
John Peel Night on Radio 1

BBC Radio 1 will pay tribute to the late John Peel through a night of live music to be broadcast on Thursday 16th December from 7pm.

The night will be hosted by Steve Lamacq and come from the world famous BBC Maida Vale studios, the scene of many a Peel Session.

Throughout the evening every studioat Maida Vale will be taken over as a whole host of bands perform and talk about John and the music he loved.

The schedule for the night will run as follows:

7pm - 8pm
Teenage Dreams So Hard To Beat
Kicking off Peel night, Radio 1 takes a look back at the career of the great man with a one hour documentary celebrating his extraordinary life. The show will feature tributes from The Undertones, Orbital, the Cure, New Order, Supergrass, Robert Plant, Underworld, Siouxsie Sioux and the Buzzcocks.

8pm - 11:30pm
Live music from bands that John championed including the Wedding Present, Nina Nastasia, Hefner, Trencher, Melys, Steveless, Stuart Murdoch (Belle & Sebastian), Special guests tbc. Steve Lamacq will be introducing the bands and linking it all together.

11:30pm - 1am
The DJs take over with sets from Underworld, Hixxy, Coldcut, Shitmat, Grooverider plus Dynamite MC on mic duties.

DJ Martian (djmartian), Wednesday, 24 November 2004 00:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Thanks for relating that DJ Martian! Something to look forward to after my final exams for sure!

Bimble (bimble), Wednesday, 24 November 2004 07:31 (twenty-one years ago)

one month passes...
I think the 'Keep It Peel' night went out while ILX was down. The documentary narrated by Jarvis Cocker still seems to be available on Listen Again though. If you missed it, check it out while you can. It's a bit of a tear-jerker and no mistake.

Teenage Dreams So Hard To Beat

retort pouch (retort pouch), Friday, 31 December 2004 02:17 (twenty-one years ago)

RIP

Riot Gear! (Gear!), Friday, 31 December 2004 02:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh yeah, I cried through about 90% of that documentary. Didn't think I was going to, but I guess it just happened.

Bimble..., Friday, 31 December 2004 02:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, me too. The last ten minutes were particularly harrowing.

retort pouch (retort pouch), Friday, 31 December 2004 06:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Just finished listening to it. A good way to salute him in the space of an hour. Indeed and again, RIP.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 31 December 2004 06:28 (twenty-one years ago)

I made an mp3 of if which I'll have shared on slsk sometime tomorrow if anyone wants to grab it (username: third_i).

Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Friday, 31 December 2004 10:05 (twenty-one years ago)

nine months pass...
I'd been compiling a Festive Fifty archive on slsk, I feel compelled to put it on when I get home.

Aldo, did you actually do this? I've just been asked to play a six-hour Festive 50 set in Hamburg next week, to commemorate the first anniversary of the lovely chap's untimely demise, and I could really do with, ummm, lots of songs.

Of course, if anyone has the whole blimmin' lot on CD and is prepared to lend them to/born them for me, for a small fee, I would be VERY interested INDEED!

CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Monday, 10 October 2005 14:21 (twenty years ago)

I realised yesterday that I owned the #26 in the 1996 FF: "Stunt Girl" by AC Acoustics. If you want it, I'm selling it on eBay! Otherwise I could burn the first track for you and send it to yr email address. I doubt I own anything else out of the ordinary FF-wise (Cocteaux, Smiths, Fall, MBV) and it's all on vinyl anyway.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Monday, 10 October 2005 14:35 (twenty years ago)


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