Who are you?
― jaymc, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 21:15 (eighteen years ago)
lol
― deej, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 21:16 (eighteen years ago)
i'm white btw
― jeff, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 21:18 (eighteen years ago)
look, i'm not bashing people for having fun, but kids were acting like it was the MOST FUN ANYONE'S EVER HAD EVER. i'm talking like beatlemania crazy. crowd surfing, rushing the stage, dancing (or rather posing) on every elevated surface in the vicinity, complete crowd crush - its not like you could actually *dance* - i mean people were going bonkers. and i had an open mind about it - i like mashups if done well (and well to me means three elements at once, weird combinations that aren't supposed to go together, and *fun* - the nirvana/destiny's child 'smells like bootylicious' is a perfect example), and dude was just throwing hip hop acapellas over 70s/80's hits. putting a big fat kick under Kelly Clarkson isn't clever or even interesting or hip - that's a B-side Club 69 remix on the CD maxi-single. that's just lazy. add that to the fact that he seriously did *nothing* onstage, i dunno if he was just pushing play on ableton or playing a CD or what, but visually there was less to look at than a usual crummy laptop performance...
i feel that *anyone* could do what he's doing, and someone *should* come along and do it how it could/should be and steal this dude's fire.
i've been witnessing this phenomenon for years now and it used to be confined to frat/sorority types out at bars, typically wasted beyond words, and bugging out as if they're at the party at the end of the world. my friends and i used to call it 'imitating the time of your life' (can't remember where i read that) and that's what i felt happening at this GT show. i just kept looking around and going 'yeh, it's okay, but REALLY?'
― BATTAGS, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 21:20 (eighteen years ago)
me? I'm just some dude.
― some dude, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 21:21 (eighteen years ago)
this is at the Movement Festival in Detroit in late May, BTW...
― BATTAGS, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 21:21 (eighteen years ago)
the second half of this is valid. i don't agree w/ you necessarily-- and ftr he says he does the mash ups live, how orchestrated they are in his mind, or repetitive from the night before is of course another story-- but at least it's a reasoned critique of his process and the quality of his work. hating on him as an artist bcuz ppl had more fun than you at a show is the same type of reasoning that leads too ppl hating deerhunter or w/e because how indie their audience is.
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 18 June 2008 21:26 (eighteen years ago)
― stephen, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 21:34 (eighteen years ago)
yeah, i'm not saying that i was standing in a corner with my arms crossed watching people having fun and going 'SO STUPID' or anything like that. i was trying to get in the groove and the spectacle of it all at first was entertaining. i wasn't there to hate - i went accompanying a friend (pipecock's own sister if you're interested) who is much younger than me (her:22 me:34) who wanted to see what it was all about. so i went into it with a 'let's see what the big deal is all about'. i expected it to be silly and fun and sloppy, but i didn't really expect people basically screaming I AM HAVING SO MUCH FUCKING FUN OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG.
but,like you said of your own experience - it was a fun dance party, i just don't think it warranted the extreme reaction.
as for him saying he does them 'live' - i flat-out don't believe it. half the time he was standing on a table on the stage taking his clothes off, or spouting off about how "they" told him he couldn't play Kelly Clarkson, but fuck that bullshit, here it is, IN YOUR FACE "THEM"!
― BATTAGS, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 21:35 (eighteen years ago)
wooo pittsburgh
― jeff, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 21:39 (eighteen years ago)
i went accompanying a friend (pipecock's own sister if you're interested)
pics?
― some dude, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 21:40 (eighteen years ago)
how bout no.
― BATTAGS, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 21:41 (eighteen years ago)
does she go by pipevag?
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 18 June 2008 21:42 (eighteen years ago)
she does not. she's actually very nice.
― BATTAGS, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 21:44 (eighteen years ago)
just imagine pipecock's frustration at having a sister who likes GT. that should be enough.
― BATTAGS, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 21:47 (eighteen years ago)
That's a fair critique of the live show, Andy, but what's your take on the album? I feel like most of it is composed of weird elements that aren't supposed to go together (even though it's all nominally pop music), and there's usually at least a dozen different samples in any three-minute chunk of the mix.
― jaymc, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 21:48 (eighteen years ago)
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"actually"
― deej, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 21:49 (eighteen years ago)
I mean, I've heard a lot of terrible mash-ups that are just like slapping two songs together and seeing what happens, but Night Ripper impresses me in part because of how precise it is.
― jaymc, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 21:49 (eighteen years ago)
-- BATTAGS, Wednesday, June 18, 2008 4:35 PM (13 minutes ago) Bookmark Link
challops as performance art
fwiw he does let his samples play out much longer when at his shows, but i doubt that's battags' only real reservation w/ him
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 18 June 2008 21:50 (eighteen years ago)
guys don't be batthurt
― some dude, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 21:51 (eighteen years ago)
i'm not Andy, but I guess I'm flattered that you would think so. Even though I am also a writer and I used to do lots of music writing. We do share a last name though.
The album is interesting, but it doesn't gel together enough for me. I think it lacks direction. I'll give him respect for crafting something so dense and intricate, and there are moments I enjoyed but on the whole the album went in one ear and out the other.
let me clarify what i said earlier about liking mashups whose elements aren't supposed to go together, taking that 'Bootylicious' one as an example: Great mashups to me have elements that shouldn't be together but sound *perfect* that way, like if you came into it not knowing either tune, you would think that was how the song was supposed to be.
― BATTAGS, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 21:56 (eighteen years ago)
You've *met* pipecock, right?
i havent, theres just a funny thread on 77 called 'actually' where we talk about how ppl use this word in a backhanded way
― deej, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 22:01 (eighteen years ago)
oh - not meant in that way at all, only wrt pipecock's behavior on ilx...
― BATTAGS, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 22:02 (eighteen years ago)
nah i got what you meant
― deej, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 22:03 (eighteen years ago)
-- some dude, Wednesday, June 18, 2008 4:21 PM (51 minutes ago) Bookmark Link
Figured it out, anyway.
― jaymc, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 22:13 (eighteen years ago)
a couple nights ago this kid said to me:
"I'm getting into 'techno' like Girl Talk and shit"
― chinchillas they can fit on gorillas, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 22:15 (eighteen years ago)
aw give catchdubs a break
― and what, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 22:16 (eighteen years ago)
damn dude
― chinchillas they can fit on gorillas, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 22:18 (eighteen years ago)
fwiw i heard about this shit from girl who lives in arkansas
― and what, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 22:18 (eighteen years ago)
...
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 18 June 2008 22:20 (eighteen years ago)
dunno just sayin girl talk seems to have gone all over even country ass bama towns in arkansas sorry pleasant plains
― and what, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 22:22 (eighteen years ago)
lol yeah ethan dont you come in here dissing the south anymore
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 18 June 2008 22:24 (eighteen years ago)
nah i wasn't sure if you were trying to diss him or something
but in any event you are right, he has toured into like every shit hole city in the south (even the one i live in!) and it's pretty cool that he does that imo instead of sticking to seattle/chi/ny/philly/dc/atl etc
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 18 June 2008 22:25 (eighteen years ago)
plus he's big w/ college kids so going to play at the univ of arkansas or w/e makes sense for him
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 18 June 2008 22:26 (eighteen years ago)
-- jaymc, Wednesday, June 18, 2008 6:13 PM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark Link
??
― carne asada, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 22:27 (eighteen years ago)
yeah, don't want any corny-looking white dudes hurting the credibility of the group who made those acclaimed mixtapes with Clinton Sparks
-- some dude, Wednesday, June 18, 2008 4:39 PM (48 minutes ago) Bookmark Link
alex wtf i thought honeymoons were supposed to make ppl un-grouchy
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― deej, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 22:28 (eighteen years ago)
in conclusion, some dude is alex in nyc
tombot spelled it out much more explicitly in that thread you bumped carne
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 18 June 2008 22:29 (eighteen years ago)
oh, now i see. thanks
― carne asada, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 22:32 (eighteen years ago)
in conclusion some dude is a corny looking white dude
― and what, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 22:32 (eighteen years ago)
The Carla Bozulich thread gave it away for me.
― jaymc, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 22:46 (eighteen years ago)
i understand diplo thinks hes not just corny looking ...
― deej, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 23:18 (eighteen years ago)
really feeling this guys aaliyah mash up with oasis. fucking hot ass man.
― Raw Patrick, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 23:45 (eighteen years ago)
so, it's out
― jeff, Thursday, 19 June 2008 15:46 (eighteen years ago)
paid $5
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 19 June 2008 16:03 (eighteen years ago)
Paid $10, which only seemed fair considering how much I loved Night Ripper. I've listened to about half so far, still trying to decide how I feel about it, although the "Ghetto Superstar"/"Autumn Sweater" bit did make me smile on the train this morning. It does seem like he's letting samples play out a little longer (although there are also apparently more of them, too -- not sure how that works).
― jaymc, Thursday, 19 June 2008 16:09 (eighteen years ago)
Maybe this is a stupid question, but is this new album the same kind of thing (which I liked)? A bunch of layered samples of hip hop/AOR/indie traxxx/alternative nation stuff? If so, is there a sample-spotting list?
(x-post - I guess that explains it!)
― Savannah Smiles, Thursday, 19 June 2008 16:11 (eighteen years ago)
he doesnt put out a sample list himself, but there is a really detailed one on the wiki page for his last album, so imagine there will be one for this one pretty soon as well
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 19 June 2008 16:12 (eighteen years ago)