Good Charlotte: Classic or Dud?

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Maybe we should change the board to I Love Cereal. (Actually, Chuck, you raise an interesting point in that I see why you'd want to concentrate on newly released stuff but I can't but help not only loving stuff from my past but stuff from the past I never heard before, so I think 'newness' is ultimately a fluid term, but anyway.)

I'd wear cowboy boots, a luchador mask, and a Pope costume

Dammit, Nickalicious, I expect you to be wearing that every day by default! Especially at work!

My own list: GC, blah, Misfits, rah, Iron Maiden, eh, Kix, I actually like the few songs I've heard from them and Steve Whiteman's interview with Metal Sludge is good fun so that counts for something.

As for Peter Green-era FM, try Then Play On...

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 13 May 2003 19:55 (twenty-one years ago) link

I haven't actually heard early early Fleetwood Mac. I'm talking strictly Buckingham-Nicks era.

And you have my sympathies Chuck, but that's what you get for writing damn good shit in 1990. I'd hate it if I still had to defend my belief that EMF was the 3rd best band ever (or INXS being 2nd), which I had in 1992.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 13 May 2003 19:57 (twenty-one years ago) link

>>>including Jack's vague resemblance to another certain annoying pop star though that being said I still find myself with a crush on him.<

You have a crush on Michael Jackson, Ally??? Wow, that *rocks*!

chuck, Tuesday, 13 May 2003 20:10 (twenty-one years ago) link

Haha!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 13 May 2003 20:11 (twenty-one years ago) link

Yeah, my taste has gone completely down the drain lately, but I think we'd make a totally hot couple.

Ally (mlescaut), Tuesday, 13 May 2003 20:15 (twenty-one years ago) link

Chuck, try *Mr. Wonderful*('68) or *English Rose*('69) if you want some early Mac. Maybe a little bluesy/ jammy for some (Fleetwood and Mac had just left Mayall's Bluesbreakers), but still worthwhile. Check their cover of Little Willie John's (i think?) "Need Your Love So Bad." Fucking gorgeous. There's a pretty decent P.Green's F.Mac BBC out their, too.

Now that I mention it, John Mayall/ Bluesbreaker's *Bare Wires* feat. a young Mick Taylor, anyone??? Perhaps this deserves it's own thread.


BTW, who is Good Charlotte?

Will (will), Tuesday, 13 May 2003 20:38 (twenty-one years ago) link

out their, too = out there, too

Will (will), Tuesday, 13 May 2003 21:22 (twenty-one years ago) link

Hey Will and Ned -- thanks for the early Mac recommendations!
So, um, how about Wishbone Ash??? Do I start with *Argus,* or what?

p.s. Siegbran is dead wrong about Kix's lyrics, by the way. Donnie Purnell's love of dirty puns was right up there with Bon Scott's, and Ally will be happy to know that they even have a song called "Kix are For Kids." (Corny!) But I'll print these instead; they clearly beat Iron Maiden to hell, though a fairer comparion might well be Morrisey:

Once upon a time in a deserted little town
An incubated boy was born and they tried to put him down
Didn't have no muscles here
Didn't have no fat
But when he opened up his mouth ya heard the biggest trap
They called him big mouth
Big trap
Loud mouth
Mighty mouth
Here comes the M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-Mighty mouth
No silver spoon, grew up too soon out on the dirt
He took a big deep breath and popped the buttons off his shirt
He's no zero oh he's a hero
He's every mother's dream
And all the boys could feel the noise
They'd shake when they'd hear him scream
They called him big mouth
Big trap
Loud mouth
Mighty mouth


chuck, Tuesday, 13 May 2003 21:44 (twenty-one years ago) link

Wishbone Ash is one of those eternal mysteries to me. I might actually say start with the first Budgie album, even though it's a totally different group and sound, just for the hell of it. I think I would definitely recommend staying away from any Robin Trower solo albums.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 13 May 2003 22:16 (twenty-one years ago) link

"Argus" is a good choice b/c it has "king will come" & "blowing free" on it which are both pretty fukcing ok-ish. Buy w/great care, wishbone ash could be very curate's eggy at the best of times.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Tuesday, 13 May 2003 22:31 (twenty-one years ago) link

if anything good came out of this thread its my upcoming "all funk versions of iron maiden songs" album

chaki (chaki), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 01:19 (twenty-one years ago) link

THAT.

WOULD.

ROCK.


"if yer gonna die (bwowm chicka bwowm) die with yer boots on (bwowm chicka bwowm) if yer gonna die...
With Isaac Hayes on backup vocals.
"Now, how are my little undead crackas this mornin'?"

Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 01:43 (twenty-one years ago) link

No way am I gonna read this whole thread, and I still haven't heard a single note by these guys, but I just checked out their website and they are the cutest band ever. Shit, I mean cuter than any boy band I've ever seen, and they're all cartoon punks? Man oh man.

Sean (Sean), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 02:04 (twenty-one years ago) link

cuter than any boy band

Surely, like I argue here with regard to other examples, they are merely the next in the series of anti-boy band boy bands? ;-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 02:16 (twenty-one years ago) link

I'm retracting my above post, ok?

Sean (Sean), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 02:27 (twenty-one years ago) link

And when the Good Charlotte backlash finally hits, their will be anti-anti-boy bands, followed by anti-anti-anti-boy bands, followed by anti-anti-anti-anti-boy bands, followed by anti-anti-anti-anti-anti-boy bands until we all dissapear up our own fundaments.

Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 10:42 (twenty-one years ago) link

Good Charlotte are Busted with a drummer. Simple as that.

gollywang (gollywang), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 10:58 (twenty-one years ago) link

They don't have a drummer....or at least not one that's allowed to be photographed with them (he musn't look "punk" enough for their tastes).

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 14:05 (twenty-one years ago) link

the original GC drummer quit to join in his brother in a new group called Wakefield. I got a review of it in Blender next month. It's not bad mall-punk-pop-metal, especially on the power ballads. Josh Freese played on Young & The Hopeless. And supposedly they're testing out some new young punk on the road.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 16:09 (twenty-one years ago) link

Yesterday I was out CD-shopping and overheard some teenagers having a conversation...

boy-to-girl: "I can't believe you're buying a GOOD CHARLOTTE CD!"
girl-to-boy: "It's for my friend!"
boy-to-girl: "If they listen to Good Charlotte, they're not your friend."
girl: "whatever"
boy2-to-boy: "What's wrong with Good Charlotte?"
boy-to-boy2: "They're so mainstream!"
boy2-to-boy: "I thought you liked mainstream punk?"
boy-to-boy2: "No, I like mainstream punk, stuff all punks know about, like Fugazi and NOFX. But Good Charlotte aren't mainstream punk, they're mainstream punk..."

(at this point they get distracted by my LAUGHING OUT LOUD at their conversation, I feel bad, pay for my Blur CD and my Tomahawk CD and my Pharaoh Monche CD and leave)

nickalicious (nickalicious), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 16:39 (twenty-one years ago) link

You know that Blur is just mainstream Britpop, right? *hides* ;-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 16:44 (twenty-one years ago) link

can't we all just get along?

Jeanne Fury (Jeanne Fury), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 16:44 (twenty-one years ago) link

TS: mainstream punk v. mainstream punk

Ally (mlescaut), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 17:46 (twenty-one years ago) link

mainstream punk all the way. Especially since the latter can become the former (Offspring, Green Day), but it doesn't work the other way around).

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 17:50 (twenty-one years ago) link

boy-to-girl: "If they listen to Good Charlotte, they're not your friend."

Somebody buy that kid a beer!

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 18:16 (twenty-one years ago) link

Alex is a man in his thirties who wants to give alcohol to teenagers who pick their friends based on which bands they like. They make him proud.

Just want that on record.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 18:19 (twenty-one years ago) link

A kid with the savvy to know that Good Charlotte fans are idiots earns a free beer, as far as I'm concerned.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 18:21 (twenty-one years ago) link

Yo, the more kids that drink, the better. I've had enough of straight edge fuxors.

Ally (mlescaut), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 18:24 (twenty-one years ago) link

Actually, now that you mention it, somebody tight-assed enough to say "If they listen to Good Charlotte, they're not your friend" probably should be given something to calm him down.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 18:30 (twenty-one years ago) link

Round of beer, anyone?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 18:46 (twenty-one years ago) link

Yes fuckin' please.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 20:23 (twenty-one years ago) link

I'll have two please, so chuck and I can peacefully agree on how the Misfits are completely overrated.

Siegbran (eofor), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 22:43 (twenty-one years ago) link

one month passes...
i heard that girls like cars and money song last night at a friends on mtv, you know what? its kinda great

gareth (gareth), Sunday, 15 June 2003 10:03 (twenty-one years ago) link

g.c. < oizone

kieron, Sunday, 15 June 2003 18:27 (twenty-one years ago) link

I guess they're pushing the videos for "Girls And Boys" and "Young & The Hopeless" at the exact same time I guess. Fine with me. Both might make my top ten singles of the year, and the latter might top it.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 15 June 2003 20:23 (twenty-one years ago) link

God help us all.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Sunday, 15 June 2003 20:24 (twenty-one years ago) link

four months pass...
alex you wrote the goings on about town entry for gc this week didn't you? brilliant work, my friend!

Yanc3y (ystrickler), Friday, 17 October 2003 02:25 (twenty years ago) link

though I haven't read it, I'll just say "fuck you" in advance.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 17 October 2003 20:14 (twenty years ago) link

http://www.newyorker.com/goingson/nightlife/

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Friday, 17 October 2003 20:20 (twenty years ago) link

It's half right (I agree with the second sentence). So let me change that "fuck you" to simply "...you."

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 17 October 2003 20:25 (twenty years ago) link

one year passes...
they fucking rock i dunno about the ppl that say suck u guys can go f ur selfs ok lol

peace

lor, Tuesday, 2 November 2004 22:10 (nineteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...
They suck.

Leelee, Saturday, 27 November 2004 01:16 (nineteen years ago) link

Yes, they do.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 27 November 2004 01:25 (nineteen years ago) link

Their newest single sounds like the Backstreet Boys. The fact that I like it a lot makes me wonder how much I really hated Good Charlotte and the Backstreet Boys to begin with.

My name is Kenny (My name is Kenny), Saturday, 27 November 2004 21:25 (nineteen years ago) link

Dud!

Pekka, Saturday, 27 November 2004 21:35 (nineteen years ago) link

heir newest single sounds like the Backstreet Boys

How is it then different from their other singles?

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 27 November 2004 21:37 (nineteen years ago) link

Duddd. "Authenticity" doesn't even come into it: just horrid songwriting, period. That please-don't-kill-yourself song makes "Everybody Hurts" sound like "Rock'n'Roll Suicide" (which it does anyway, I guess).

joseph cotten (joseph cotten), Saturday, 27 November 2004 21:39 (nineteen years ago) link

I hate their whiny vocals.

Leelee, Saturday, 27 November 2004 21:41 (nineteen years ago) link

Duddd. "Authenticity" doesn't even come into it: just horrid songwriting, period. That please-don't-kill-yourself song makes "Everybody Hurts" sound like "Rock'n'Roll Suicide" (which it does anyway, I guess).

"Hold On", replete with interview clips from "real" suicide "survivors". So tastelessly manipulative that it's offensive, and not in a good way either.

Dud, dud, dud.

Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Saturday, 27 November 2004 22:12 (nineteen years ago) link

hardcore punk has been dead for 20 years. green day-style bubblegum punk has been dead for 10 years. how is "reviving" either style NOT inherently rockist? to put it another way, how is reviving ANY dead style to pick at its bones (for fun, profit, or otherwise) somehow a "pop" move?

Eisbär (llamasfur), Sunday, 28 November 2004 14:31 (nineteen years ago) link


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