Rudimentary Peni VS Flux of Pink Indians

MarxyBoy

Cuz IOF would win easily.

Or Citizen Fish -vs- Schwarzenegger!

It might be a tie.

Crass
Flux
Subhumans
Rudimentari Peni
Discharge
Conflict

But that's just today. If I slept on it my answer might be different.

IF ANY SPARK OF LIFE BE YET REMAINING, DOWN, DOWN TO HELL, AND SAY I SENT THEE THITHER!!!

Never liked early Flux. I like 'Fucking Cunts' but my copy was the One Little Indian reissue without the lyrics - kinda pointless. Still wish I hadn't sold it.

What I like almost as much as the Peni is the post-FOPI album by Flux called "Uncarved Block". Very different, Adrian Sherwood and On-U Sound people participate and the music also has a lot more melody and color.

i heard rudimentary peni for the first time this weekend. it fucked me up! the album "cacophony" woah nellie what a crazy record....

i had no idea shit like that was going on in the UK then, it totes gets written out of history....crazy talk.

seriously like i had no idea hardcore continued on in the UK....you never heard about it, esp. this which is beyond twisted art/metal/hardcore/strangeness....it would seem to fit in better with what was happening in the US, late SST and touch & go and shit...but i thought everyone just stopped at a certain point in the UK...

yeah seriously! it's very overlooked.

"Flux of Pink Indians" is such a great name!

RFI - Crusty punk

good stuff. grindcore wouldn't have existed without this kind of music.

it's true!

Cacophony is teh bestest, but I see I said that here already. There is so much detail in that album.

death church!

listen to chaki

RP have a new album out in about a month and I'm sorry to say it pretty much sucks :(

hasn't that been true of most of the second incarnation RP releases?

i need to get EPs of RP on cd. goddamn, they were so good.

Peni4evah.

Hardcore punk never really stopped in the UK, it was/is mostly hated/ignored by music critics which explains why it was written out of music history, and the fanbase was pretty small compared to the USA etc, so it just carried on as an underground scene.

I can't easily pick one of these 2 bands! I was playing them both yesterday.

good stuff. grindcore wouldn't have existed without this kind of music.

-- latebloomer, Monday, 31 March 2008 18:44 (Yesterday) Link

yeah when we were listening to it, other than being sort of blown away like what IS this kind of music? i was thinking that it sort of occupies that weird nexus of punk/hardcore/metal in a way that i thought only U.S. stuff like late black flag or die kreutzen and stuff did.....did the Bay Area thrash bands like these guys? i swear metallica or slayer or someone did....

Okay woah woah woah. Back up. I am totally flipping over Rudimentary Peni right now. Got three albums of theirs now and yowza. Don't even know where to begin with the brilliance on display here.

Do you know they even have a song called "Black President"?

Bimble's goth heart is totally beating <3 <3 <3 <3

Check out the lyrics for "The Eyes Of The Dead":

"Seeing with the eyes of the dead/
Reliving the lives of the dead/
Living with the lies of the dead/
Dreaming (breathing??) with the cries of the dead"

I don't know if I've got all these lyrics right, necessarily, but that is some heavy, heavy goth right there, regardless, and it ought to be respected.

Also they are way, way punk rock. I don't want to give the impression they're not.

What 3 did you buy? EPs of RP, Death Church, and Cacophony are the only essentials.

I wrote my 33 1/3 proposal on Cacophony this time. Wish me luck!

haha awww. I'm cheering on other 33 1/3 hopefuls already haha. Yes of course I wish you luck!

The three I have of RP are Death Church, No More Pain EP (god what a title!!! I worship that shit), and the "EP's of RP" which I haven't really dug into much yet.

Where is Colonel Poo I wonder? He likes to talk about this band.

The way I feel about Rudimentary Peni is it's like early Death In June (when they were called Crisis and really punk) but like improved by three times or something.

"Being brave won't save me from the grave". Christ, even metalheads should hear this.
"The Death of The Author" is what it's called.

Death Church is my favorite punk album ever. Cacophony is simply one of my favorite albums ever. It's the anomaly in their catalog in that it was primarily written by Blinko about H.P. Lovecraft. Musically, it also stretches the furthest.

Just full on punk rock sometimes, so strange that I could get that far into a punk band. I adore them. I'll check out Cacophony, thanks.

http://www.goodbadmusic.com/2008/02/12/magits-fully-coherent-7ep-outer-himmilayan-records-uk-1979/

pre-peni crude synth plonkin'

Death Church was a 'best of both worlds' type album for metalheads who wouldn't listen to stuff this punky and punks who wouldn't listen to stuff this metally. Plus i mean "when you're in a martian church"!!!

it seems like cacophony is fucking impossible to find on vinyl. :(

Still can't choose between these 2 bands but Flux Of Pink Indians were really great at their reunion gig last year, they really nailed the guitar sound, it was exactly as tinny and awesome as on the records, and Sid from Rubella Ballet hopped on drums for Tube Disasters (twice!) as he played on the original. Never seen Peni live but they hardly ever played live AFAIK

xp re: Cacophony

yeah the bassist hates it! Discogs has one from Australia for $40... I don't think it's even being kept in print by the band. check out the Mark Prindle reviews for more sad info.

Finally found Cacophony and it is plain great.
Horrors In The Museum is such a great song.

went down memory lane with both of these bands on my hi-fi a week or two ago. i was drunk, of course. always sound great. always inspiring.

NIGHTGAUNTS
NIGHTGAUNTS

Every band should have a Lovecraft-inspired in their discography.

Cthulhu Fhtagn!

I'm into it. just bought a copy from LVEUM

Yeah, I just assumed this had to do with Sound of Metal.

I've never heard them.

Peni is great

this sounds fucking great

awww this is awesome. their production is always great as it's raw but the riffs cut through with clarity

"Crimson Sun" fucking rules

it totally does, that one really stood out to me on first listen

i don't think I expected to enjoy this as much as I am enjoying this

the guitar sound is so great in this

just bought Nick Blinko's book The Primal Screamer. 2021 is the year of Rudimentary Peni apparently

Just read that someone is wearing a Rudimentary Peni t-shirt in Oscars nominated movie Sound of Metal

― curmudgeon, Friday, April 23, 2021 9:07 AM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

Honestly the first I had ever heard of RP

Am hoping that the Death Church reissue comes in the large foldout poster/sleeve.

Can only buy the new reissues through bandcamp?

Oh, they're not out yet

More art books
https://zagava.de/shop/the-sketchbooks-of-nick-blinko?edition=52

reissue of Death Church LP coming soon on Sealed, they will also be reissuing the 1st 7" EP next year

Death Church reissue is up for order via Sealed records.

sealedrecords
Plus forthcoming for 2022 and Beyond

SEAL-016 CHIN CHIN - Cry In Vain LP (Compilation including unreleased BBC Session)
SEAL-017 BIKINI MUTANTS - Bikini Mutants LP
SEAL-018 VARIOUS - GROUCHO MARXIST COMPILATION LP
SEAL-019 MODEL WORKERS - Cry 7"
SEAL-020 RUDIMENTARY PENI - Cacophony LP, CD and Tape
SEAL-021 ALTERNATIVE - If They Treat You Like Shit - Act Like Manure LP
SEAL-022 RUDIMENTARY PENI - EPs of RP LP, CD and Tape
SEAL-023 ORGANIZED CHAOS - LP
SEAL-024 KARMA SUTRA - The Daydreams Of A Production Line Worker LP
SEAL-025 TWELVE CUBIC FEET - Straight Out the Fridge 12”
SEL-026 RUDIMENTARY PENI - Pope Adrian 37th Psychristiatric LP. CD and Tape

2023 - The rest of the RUDIMENTARY PENI Catalogue

Plus we are moving into the odd magazine and book. We are putting together a Rudimentary Peni Book/Magazine with Interviews, Gig handouts and more

Farce 12" reissue is coming on Crass/One little independent at some point too.

So how are the reissues? Probably time to buy now, they're on a list of 100 or so bands I've been meaning to listen to for at least 15 years

I'm sure they are fine, I have some other records that Sealed did and they sound great.

I got the s/t EP, Death Church and Cacophony reissues and can confirm they are good. the Farce reissue was on One Little Independent instead of Sealed and seemed to sell out immediately which is annoying.

i REALLY would love to buy all the posters they are selling because they are soooooooo friggin' cool but if i did they would just end up in a closet. if i were rich i would have them framed and put them all over my house.

https://ironlungrecords.bigcartel.com/product/a-nick-blinko-poster-collection-part-6

the price is right too.

nice!

Cacophony is the best punk record

True!

weird I was just blasting Death Church two days ago. timely!

Cacophony is the best punk record

― chr1sb3singer, Friday, August 9, 2024 12:08 PM (one year ago) bookmarkflaglink

So true

I mean, yeah

Well now hey

https://sealedrecords2.bandcamp.com/album/the-e-p-s-of-r-p

I am coincidentally wearing my Death Church t-shirt today.

it's a bit annoying that the Farce reissue got hijacked by One Little Independent in such limited quantities that it sold out immediately, because Sealed have already reissued the 1st 7", which I bought. ideally I would've bought Farce on its own rather than this which has both EPs on it. oh well