― panico (panico), Monday, 17 March 2003 22:39 (twenty-one years ago) link
― hstencil, Monday, 17 March 2003 22:41 (twenty-one years ago) link
― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Monday, 17 March 2003 23:42 (twenty-one years ago) link
nope, not SURE -- that's why I said "I think." I mean, I've never seen them mention it in an interview. But there's definitely some stuff on those Angels albums that sounds proto-Midnight-Oil to me.
― chuck, Monday, 17 March 2003 23:53 (twenty-one years ago) link
― chuck, Monday, 17 March 2003 23:54 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Lee G (Lee G), Tuesday, 18 March 2003 00:52 (twenty-one years ago) link
Best two albums: Head Injuries (1979) and Place Without a Postcard (1981) -- neither of which saw a US release until 1990, after many people quit caring about the Oils at all.
― paul cox (paul cox), Tuesday, 18 March 2003 01:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
― gaz (gaz), Tuesday, 18 March 2003 01:02 (twenty-one years ago) link
― o. nate (onate), Tuesday, 18 March 2003 01:57 (twenty-one years ago) link
See, that's why I miss your music writing Lee.
― Jesse Fox, Tuesday, 18 March 2003 02:27 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Lee G (Lee G), Tuesday, 18 March 2003 03:18 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Poppy (poppy), Tuesday, 18 March 2003 03:34 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Vinnie (vprabhu), Tuesday, 18 March 2003 03:45 (twenty-one years ago) link
Remember when that Screaming Blue Messiahs dude was around and it seemed like bald people were about to seize control?
― Hunter (Hunter), Tuesday, 18 March 2003 05:42 (twenty-one years ago) link
I've never been a fan of them much, but the Guitarist (called 'Bones'), is a family friend of a friend of mine, so I got back stage passes to what turned out to be their last show at The Forum in Melbourne late last year.
Garret gave a big speech at the Feb 14 Anti-War Rally in Melb (200,000), one day before the Feb 15 rallies the world over. So yeeea...
― Rob from Melbourne (Keith McD), Tuesday, 18 March 2003 06:16 (twenty-one years ago) link
― paul cox (paul cox), Tuesday, 18 March 2003 06:38 (twenty-one years ago) link
yeah i think this album is the best set of tunes, and heavy only in a very artful way -- the production emphasises the subtle and non-repetetive elements -- i still love it though i know it completley (and the only song that sucks would be called "US Forces")
ok they dumbed down later for all their big arena hits (and when i saw them live there was just one good song guitar solo etc. in the whole show, in the encore, v. dissapointing) but they'd changed for u2 type demographic by then
― george gosset (gegoss), Tuesday, 18 March 2003 06:56 (twenty-one years ago) link
― miccio (miccio), Saturday, 13 November 2004 20:12 (nineteen years ago) link
CLASSIC!!! I mean, who else dances like Peter Garrett! haha
The Oil's 1979-1985 albums are absolute cult classics down here in OZ. Some of the songs on 'Red Sails...' are like nothing I've ever heard before, like 'When the Generals Talk' and that huge explosion of beautiful sound at the end of 'Kosciuscko'! Brilliant! My favourite Aussie band, bloody legends.
― Miranda Leigh (Miranda Leigh), Thursday, 25 May 2006 03:32 (eighteen years ago) link
― Abbadavid Berman (Hurting), Thursday, 25 May 2006 03:35 (eighteen years ago) link
― lil' merzbow wow (haitch), Thursday, 25 May 2006 03:55 (eighteen years ago) link
http://www.alp.org.au/people/nsw/garrett_peter.php
― cnwb (cnwb), Thursday, 25 May 2006 03:59 (eighteen years ago) link
(they did seem to think that the story was funny, so bully for them for having a sense of humor.)
― Eisbär (llamasfur), Thursday, 25 May 2006 05:43 (eighteen years ago) link
― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Thursday, 25 May 2006 05:43 (eighteen years ago) link
10,9,8... = OK ComputerRed Sails = Kid A
fucking classic, until the bottom fell out with that tired-ass-sounding blue sky mining.
― Lawrence the Looter (Lawrence the Looter), Thursday, 25 May 2006 12:23 (eighteen years ago) link
That's great.
Similar to Colin Hay's story about someone requesting the "one about the goats".
― Edward Bax (EdBax), Thursday, 25 May 2006 15:09 (eighteen years ago) link
― Pete Scholtes (Pete Scholtes), Thursday, 25 May 2006 18:56 (eighteen years ago) link
My favourite track is "no time for games" from the Bird Noises EP.
I think the political stuff and the rock gelled well for them.
The drummer (Rob Hirst?) is phenomenal too, one particular huge solo on Power in the Passion.
― rchinn (rchinn), Thursday, 25 May 2006 21:18 (eighteen years ago) link
I'd have liked Blue Sky Mining to have been recorded with less gloss, but a lot of the songs on there are good and therefore a keeper. The only studio album of theirs I don't care if I ever hear again is Redneck Wonderland... it had no ambition, no direction, no anything. Capricornia was a commendable swan song, though.
― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Thursday, 25 May 2006 22:06 (eighteen years ago) link
"Stars Of Warburton" sounded really nice today. BSM has aged a little better these days (and D&D probably hasn't)
― Elvis Telecom, Monday, 21 December 2009 02:39 (fourteen years ago) link
Dud. I threw on Diesel And Dust the other day and it was basically mediocre "college rock" with some guy obnoxiously yelling vague platitudes or suggesting we give the land back to the aborigines. "Sometimes" worked the best as far as the vague platitudes go. I need to listen to my copies of Blue Sky Mining and Earth Sun And Moon to see if they've aged just as horribly. And every time I see them on VH1 Classic they scare me even more.I'm glad Garrett's decided to stop talking the talk but keeping walking the walk. Though I don't want to see him do that funny walk ever again.
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Monday, March 17, 2003 5:12 PM (6 years ago) Bookmark
this is perhaps Miccio's most perceptive post ever.
― How About a Nice Cuppa Shit on a Shingle, Soldier? (Eisbaer), Monday, 21 December 2009 02:41 (fourteen years ago) link
I'd disagree. D&D really sort of embraces its own timeframe without becoming a victim of it. On the other hand, I hear BSM and all I hear (aside from a few good songs) is 19901990199019901990!
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 21 December 2009 02:44 (fourteen years ago) link
with garrett possibly going onto some sort of leftist politics career (although i haven't seen him involved in anything yet)
innocent times
― happy christmas your ass (electricsound), Monday, 21 December 2009 02:46 (fourteen years ago) link
thing the naysayers have to account for is that they sorta rocked, once upon a time.
― hellzapoppa (tipsy mothra), Monday, 21 December 2009 03:32 (fourteen years ago) link
Red Sails is far and away my favorite Oils record (and that guitar solo in "Best of Both Worlds" melts my cerebellum).
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 21 December 2009 03:34 (fourteen years ago) link
classic. the dead heart should be the national anthem.
― ABSOLUTELY NO SCRUBS WHATSOEVER, Monday, 21 December 2009 12:01 (fourteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTGx59dm3XY
― ABSOLUTELY NO SCRUBS WHATSOEVER, Monday, 21 December 2009 12:04 (fourteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmHco4ie9EE
― Three Word Username, Thursday, 7 June 2012 06:46 (twelve years ago) link
butts are burning
― Hungry4Ass, Wednesday, 19 September 2012 10:30 (eleven years ago) link
Watching the Capitol set from the Best of Both Worlds dvd on youtube. So damn good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyqWoq2STjw&list=PL92319EECC1754042
― EZ Snappin, Sunday, 30 March 2014 19:05 (ten years ago) link
Man, I forget sometimes how insane this band was. That's some nearly-Clash-level shit there.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 30 March 2014 19:15 (ten years ago) link
They don't get their due, at least Stateside. A truly great rock band.
― EZ Snappin, Sunday, 30 March 2014 19:18 (ten years ago) link
Man, I just got to "Armistice Day" and my god does it rule.
― EZ Snappin, Sunday, 30 March 2014 19:20 (ten years ago) link
It's a shame that they didn't really break big in the US until their music was on the downswing with D&D, but I can't imagine radio accommodating anything from 10,9,8 or Red Sails. Those records still sound like they're from the future.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 30 March 2014 19:23 (ten years ago) link
Yup. And those early records have aged much better than the crossover trio of Diesel and Dust, Blue Sky Mining and Earth and Sun and Moon. Oddly enough, Breathe sounds better now than it did in 1996.
― EZ Snappin, Sunday, 30 March 2014 19:25 (ten years ago) link
I love everything up to and including Earth and Sun and Moon. Got no problem with the crossover trio because the songwriting is sooooo sharp, and since 10-1 and Red Sails are so absolutely bonkers, I can't imagine the band had any choice but to reign things in.
Need to relisten to Breathe et al again.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 30 March 2014 20:21 (ten years ago) link
I got off the bus after BSM, one of the most disappointing records I've ever heard. But I was intrigued by the E&S&M singles (as well as their SNL appearance that year). I should probably get caught up.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 30 March 2014 21:08 (ten years ago) link
And the drum sound on Red Sails is one of the most grippingly unique I've ever heard. That whole record's production is so completely spooky.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 30 March 2014 21:10 (ten years ago) link
Diesel remains a good record, but I definitely got off the bus for a while at Blue Sky Mining. Breathe is their best record of the 90s, and then Capricornia was a respectable bow out. BSM, ESM and Redneck Wonderland are all embarrassing.
― Johnny Fever, Sunday, 30 March 2014 21:28 (ten years ago) link
I like the singles from the three crossover records, but I'm never going to pull them out ahead of the 1980-85 LPs and EPs. Redneck Wonderland is sad, sad stuff. Didn't even have decent singles.
― EZ Snappin, Sunday, 30 March 2014 21:31 (ten years ago) link
also I forgot Divinyls were from Australia!
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 5 March 2021 02:08 (three years ago) link
AC/DC vs. INXS
The Bee Gees formed in Australia, if you want a three-way battle.
― Vernon Locke, Friday, 5 March 2021 02:13 (three years ago) link
Cold Chisel and Powderfinger are secretly the most popular Aus acts within Australia. (A lie, probably, but it would be amusing if the statistically correct answer was something that never really traveled well.)
Cave albums routinely go comfortably top #10 in Aus nowadays, so he's pretty popular. Close to a household name, I'd say. Though my mother, for instance, can only name the Kylie duet. (I inadvertently tested this recently!)
― Nag! Nag! Nag!, Friday, 5 March 2021 02:42 (three years ago) link
Mum only pays attention to Cave to tease me about how old he’s getting lol
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 5 March 2021 03:01 (three years ago) link
Rural wise i think AC/DC is def more broadly popular, and across most ages over 40’s 50’s etcINXS maybe more popular w under 40’s idk and prob women? but thats a big maaaaybe bc they kinda fucked themselves w all the stupid shit they did after Hutchence died lol
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 5 March 2021 03:07 (three years ago) link
i dont farkin know tbh
Chisel and Powderfinger def feel like much bigger cultural presences
Don’t forget the role Daniel Johns from Silverchair played in Garrett’s downfall
idk if I knew it to forget. too late if so!
The difference is negligible, admittedly.
yeah this is the thing, whether he's streaming drunk on facebook live on a $100k parliamentary pension, paid less than that (+ parl pens) to host on Sky News, or paid less again (+pp) to guest, it's still his main activity, and legislating isn't.
plus he's how he made himself eligible to that voting bloc (2 out of 42 seats: he ran on stopping immigration, blocking renewable energy, requiring DNA tests for indigenous dole recipients, and banning the burqa; used his maiden speech to argue that ppl shouldn't be fired for telling gays that they are cursed to hell)
― grab bag cum trash bag (sic), Friday, 5 March 2021 03:17 (three years ago) link
According to a Herald Sun article reposted to this forum thread, it's AC/DC over Bee Gees with INXS third, although international impact is considered. Every band mentioned in this revive is in the list.
(xp) Also happy to be reminded of Johns's role!
― Vernon Locke, Friday, 5 March 2021 03:37 (three years ago) link
I grew up in 80s Sydney and all the bands mentioned in this thread were ubiquitous with the exception of the Go-Betweens, who were very niche indie back then and never had a hit, I don't think even Streets of Your Town charted.
― Zelda Zonk, Friday, 5 March 2021 03:47 (three years ago) link
it got a bit of TV play at the time, and became one of the two Go-Bes songs guest programmers would pick on rage through the '90s, but only charted in NZ.
(Cattle & Cane ranked at #11 and #27 on the first two Hot 100s, clung on desperately at #96 in the final year when Nirvana and nationalisation broke the poll.)
― grab bag cum trash bag (sic), Friday, 5 March 2021 05:17 (three years ago) link
The Hottest 100 returns have been wretched for at least a quarter of a century
― charlie rex, Wednesday, 7 April 2021 03:37 (three years ago) link
Final (?) album and final (?) tour coming up. The former (promo snips of which were pretty solid) reportedly recorded before the death of Bones.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SV-QrTrpNzg
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 19 February 2022 19:59 (two years ago) link
Actually, I guess the new album is already out? Man, what a world we live in.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 19 February 2022 20:02 (two years ago) link
for those upthread curious about the Daniel Johns incident https://amp.smh.com.au/entertainment/celebrity/i-should-shut-up-and-stick-to-singing-20070709-gdqktg.html
― assert (matttkkkk), Saturday, 19 February 2022 21:33 (two years ago) link
Classic. Bought 10 to 1 when it came out, it didn't leave my turntable for months. Watched their evolution from there through the Diesel and Dust album and tour, when they were at their height as a live band. Still one of the most electrifying live acts I've ever seen, albeit much diminished the last time I saw them, circa Redneck Wonderland. The new album so far is . . . good. Doesn't look like I'll get a chance to see this final tour; the only possible date is at the Hollywood Palladium, but I have something else that I likely can't get out of.
I hadn't really paid attention to Garrett's political career, and now I wish I didn't know.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 3 May 2022 00:14 (two years ago) link
garrett's political career was a disaster really, he clearly sold out to no real benefit & then was thrown under the bus for something that wasn't really his fault
he could have very comfortably fit into the greens without having to compromise but back in 2004 when he was recruited to labor the greens were a much smaller political presence here
― ufo, Tuesday, 3 May 2022 00:38 (two years ago) link
Yeah, that's my impression. Really ill-advised. He always struck me as being pretty smart, but it seems like he got completely turned around.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 3 May 2022 00:39 (two years ago) link
I gotta say, back in the day I really disliked Midnight Oil for their earnestness and bombast, but now, I really dislike Midnight Oil for their earnestness and bombast.
― assert (matttkkkk), Tuesday, 3 May 2022 00:57 (two years ago) link
still really really like em. he dngaf if he bugged you afaict. until elected i guess.
― The Hon. Christian Sharia (R - MO) (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 3 May 2022 01:03 (two years ago) link
It's possible he still views it as the right move. Parachuted into a safe ALP seat and a steady income. Not sure he'd have been pre-selected as effortlessly in the Greens let alone be elected into one of their very limited number of viable (presumably upper house) slots. He might have to have done more tedious unpaid stuff before his parliamentary career even began. Like everyone ever associated with the ALP he's likely convinced himself that "change from within" is/was an actual thing, and preferable to messing about with smaller parties who threaten to stand for something.
― Nag! Nag! Nag!, Tuesday, 3 May 2022 01:20 (two years ago) link
That's just fuckin' sad.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 3 May 2022 01:29 (two years ago) link
that uh, seems like imaginary things but i’m not aussie and have no heroes
― The Hon. Christian Sharia (R - MO) (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 3 May 2022 01:32 (two years ago) link
It doesn't pay to have heroes, honestly.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 3 May 2022 01:45 (two years ago) link
To be fair, he had been a candidate for a tiny party decades earlier. I don't really blame him for trying something else tbh. The ALP are hardly the most monstrous option.
― Nag! Nag! Nag!, Tuesday, 3 May 2022 01:57 (two years ago) link
Yeah, the Nuclear Disarmament Party, right?
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 3 May 2022 02:29 (two years ago) link
Like everyone ever associated with the ALP he's likely convinced himself that "change from within" is/was an actual thingThis is obviously the calculus he made; he found out that getting fucked by a thousand rats can also happen from within.The ALP are hardly the most monstrous option.At the time, this was certainly true. It would be far more of a betrayal if he’d lined up for a parachute after 2018.
― Yul Brynner film festival on Channel 48... (sic), Tuesday, 3 May 2022 03:40 (two years ago) link
He was my local member, and you certainly did see him around and about. Don't think you can fault him for trying, but obviously it didn't turn out well.
Hoping, without any enthusiasm, for a Labor win this time around. Labor is a hollowed out nothing these days, but anything to get rid of Scummo I guess
― Zelda Zonk, Tuesday, 3 May 2022 03:50 (two years ago) link
Ablo’s my local member, imagine how these four years have felt
― Yul Brynner film festival on Channel 48... (sic), Tuesday, 3 May 2022 05:04 (two years ago) link
I have postal ballots sitting here and have toyed with voting informal for the first time. I guess the fact we can now at least let our preferences exhaust before electing Labor in the senate is making the utter inevitability of my HoR ballot converting into a vote for my local Labor candidate seem increasingly absurd and unsupportable lol. It'd be an irrational move. But the idea of my ballot inexorably making its way onto the Labor pile so reliably for soooo many years is really bugging me lately.
Proportional representation in both houses NOW! etc, etc.
― Nag! Nag! Nag!, Tuesday, 3 May 2022 05:24 (two years ago) link
I will vote Green and, with zero enthusiasm, preference Labor. However vacuous their current policies are, I don't think I can physically stand another 3 years of the coalition.
― Zelda Zonk, Tuesday, 3 May 2022 05:52 (two years ago) link
^ Basically what I did in the HoR in the end. (No real sensible alternatives amongst the microparties standing in my electorate.)Just posted it! Thanks Midnight Oil thread on the interwebs for reminding me to vote. :)
― Nag! Nag! Nag!, Tuesday, 3 May 2022 10:25 (two years ago) link
Perhaps unexpectedly, this thread has given me a chance to get at least passingly acquainted with the current state of Australian politics. It's both appalling and not surprising that the current state looks very much like that of U.S. politics.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 3 May 2022 13:59 (two years ago) link