A.R. Kane C/D and S/D

(their finest moment, you know.)

is that dub mix on the purple remix 'i' disc?

am i the ONLY one who likes new clear child?

-- strongo hulkington (dubplatestyl...), April 8th, 2004.

I don't *mind* it but...

-- Ned Raggett (ne...), April 8th, 2004.

i think i listen to it the most these days

-- strongo hulkington (dubplatestyl...), April 8th, 2004.

I am listening to New Clear Child for the first time in a long while and I have to say it's the first time I've ever heard it and really flat out enjoyed it. Very interesting. Also interesting is the fact that I'm convinced that Gus Gus's sample of Kool and the Gang for "Believe" was either inspired by its use on this album for "Cool as Moons" or is in fact just a sample of "Cool as Moons" directly!

A.R. Kane don't really belong to that continuum of noisy stuff - they're much more post-Cocteau Twins, contemporaries of Kitchens of Distinctions, precursors to Disco Inferno and Bark Psychosis... the idea is "noise" as in not typical sounds frequently used in music, rather than "noise" as in loud, enveloping, annihilating.

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I remember being confused by i as well, expecting something much heavier and more abstract. But it grew on me inordinately quickly - it's not just a case of the outwardly superficial pop songs concealing hidden depths, everything within the songs is simultaneously light and deep, accomodating and disconcerting... but the deep/disconcerting qualities can perhaps only be perceived as such once you've internalised the songs. I think I initially thought, "only the last quarter is any good"; then it became "only the last third...", then "only the second half...", then etc. etc.

Assuming you're talking about The Jesus and Mary Chain, MBV, Sonic Youth etc (as opposed to all-caps noise), I have to disagree on two points. First, their early work (see the first half of my 'portable' mix above) is very clearly a part of that same continuum, drawing very directly from their immediate precursors. I agree that they went somewhere else, but many of those same groups did likewise (the Mary Chain first perhaps with Automatic). Your last sentence I think perhaps overly simplifies the post-rock landscape into 'those who would use sampling to make new random noise bursts' etc. Even a ostensibly throwback group like Loop (although they were maybe thinking of Pink Floyd) used that same approach on things like "Shot With a Diamond" or the earlier "Thief (Motherf*cker)", and of course Kevin Shields was forever sampling and rearranging his own sounds.

All that said, I'm probably just misunderstanding you!

Sorry Spencer I should have been clearer - as you say, it's not a case where bands like MBV, JAMC etc. didn't often create wondrous sounds, just that they usually did so in a very loud manner - such that "noise" has a double meaning in their work. Whereas with A.R. Kane from 69 onwards it mostly just has the one meaning (the only pre-69 track I have is "When Your Sad" - is the spelling mistake intentional BTW?).

Rumours etc:

http://www.myspace.com/arkaneuk

Hi

I have had a few early comms with the rights owners re the re-issue of some of the early A.R.Kane material (early singles from One Little Indian, 4AD and Rough Trade, and albums 69, 'i', and rem'i'xes EP).
So far it looks possible that there will be limited ed vinyl, CD and digital relaeses, maybe as box-sets.

As more info comes, I will let y'all know about it.

Best,

Rudy

Hope this sees the light of day, some of those EPs are the fucking tits.

Also, had never seen this before:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRl2THJO_80

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sz5iEvo1PKU

Pretty much the eye-opening formative moment of my music life.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1IuDyitqbE

On their Facebook page, Rudy is saying a spring release for a 2 CD singles comp...

good news!

Would it include M/A/R/R/S?

It looks like "Anitina" is in the running, but I'm not so concerned about it as it's been on CD numerous times. The early EPs have only been available on vinyl and I'm really excited about things like the EP version of "Baby Milk Snatcher" etc.

At long last:

http://www.factmag.com/2012/07/10/the-singles-of-lost-80s-legends-a-r-kanes-compiled/

Yes

!!!!

http://i57.tinypic.com/28jbm02.png

At the moment seems like it's a Rudy-only venture. It's not AR Kane if there's no Alex involved.

he made a point to say it wasn't a reunion. . . but then he did say he'd been in contact with former AR Kane members. So sounds like he's doing it whether Alex will or not.

Meh

they prob heard the new young fathers album and thought they need to get in there.

I'm glad I got to see them back in the late 90s. It was the NewClear Child tour but they didn't hold back from getting their feedback on. Was glorious.

Oh man, I need to see this. Hope I can get a ticket.

imo "haunting" is the single best shoegaze

^I dont agree totally but Iits def way high up there!

fighting with my ex- about A.R. Kane kinda ruined them for me, but this news is monumental enough to merit an eyebrow raise from me at the very least

they played last weekend at the midi festival in france

here is the setlist...
https://twitter.com/InfoKane/status/625550537547755520

will be seeing them myself this saturday at supernormal. rudy said it might be their very last show, but who knows?

17 minutes of them live in a current incarnation with Rudy but no Alex, live at the primavera Sound at the start of this month
http://www.dimeadozen.org/torrents-details.php?id=563752

The new album by The Invisible really reminds me of "A Love From Outer Space" in lots of ways.

any way to check that out without getting a Dimeadozen membership?

It wasn't that fantastic from hearing it once. A loud d'n'b-ish track and one more dreampoppy.

Ah yeah I'll pass.

btw I hate this band ever since I got in a fight with my ex- about them, shortly before we broke up

oh hmm, I see I have already mentioned this extremely interesting tidbit about myself upthread *shimmers and vanishes, like a radiant palace of ice in the desert melting back into the shadows of a mirage*

Lol whatever, I had a conversation with Michael B about "Sulliday" when we met up in Lansing, and ever since then I've had a new appreciation for that track, and for 69 as a whole, as a sustained surrealist masterpiece

what were the details of this fight

Was this ever posted? Classic era AR Kane live off a cassette : ))

http://killyourpetpuppy.co.uk/news/flux-annie-anxiety-tackhead-sound-system-dv-ar-kane-u-l-u-281186/

Holy crap I need this in my life. Thanks!

So in this song when he says "car-ar-pet" I'm strongly reminded of AR Kane:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvPT2QuCIOA

Reissue set entitled A. R. Kive has been reviewed in Uncut and The Wire, but it STILL doesn’t have a price or pre-order! It sounds like an eccentric box, too. The first 2 studio LPs and the Up Home! EP, but no Lollita or other material from the era. Weird all-around, which is par for the course with them

so the Rough Trade stuff but the early OLI or 4AD singles... rights issue no doubt

I’m glad it’s finally being reissued, but I’ll wait for more reviews to see if they’re comparable to the original releases.

just got a ticket for the London gig in September :D

Nice. So many AR Kane threads

AR Kane - 69 : classic or dud?

The Wire cover story has sent me through the catalogue. I knew “A Love From Outer Space” from the time, playing it on my college radio show. But the availability of their stuff in the US meant I never was able to truly appreciate their diversity and depth. Thanks to the miracle of streaming, being able to hear the complete catalogue in these is introducing to me just how truly great these guys are.