No lie I love that album but I couldn't tell you what any of the songs were called on it.
― Hongro Horace (Noodle Vague), Monday, 6 September 2010 11:26 (thirteen years ago) link
I mean I know what some of the titles are but I couldn't pin them to a riff or anything.
― Hongro Horace (Noodle Vague), Monday, 6 September 2010 11:27 (thirteen years ago) link
Not like I didn't vote Dre on this bollocks anyway.
i'll be real and say i could identify about five:
the first oneloomerto here knows whenblown a wish (enya everywhere in this bitch)soon
― i am legernd (history mayne), Monday, 6 September 2010 11:28 (thirteen years ago) link
otm. anybody who lives loveless fronting like 'only shallow' does not have one of the most stylish, attractive, immediate & just totally, like, mind-blowing (&thus unifying) opening riffs of all time is stinking shit up in this pitchfork thread
That may be so, but the album is full of great tracks. As NV said they're difficult to parse in recollection, I've probably played it more than any other album but I forget which songs are which. So my theory was that the evil pfk ppl chose the first track in order to create a sense of phenomenological coherence that may not really exist in our cruelly random world where everybody has a favourite song and nobody knows what it's called [via late capitalism].
― no time for the prussian death cult (nakhchivan), Monday, 6 September 2010 11:44 (thirteen years ago) link
Nah that big unwindy "shit my tape player's fucked" riff at the beginning was a game-changer at the time and still sounds as good as anything on there.
― Hongro Horace (Noodle Vague), Monday, 6 September 2010 11:45 (thirteen years ago) link
think there was once upon a time a small consensus around the two singles, especially 'soon' [via vague 'dance element' guilt]
― i am legernd (history mayne), Monday, 6 September 2010 11:45 (thirteen years ago) link
That was probably the best known song at the time.
Symphonic Chaos". Melody Maker. December 1990. "And [Soon] won them acclaim from Brian Eno, who, in a lecture at New York's Museum Of Modern Art, described it as 'the vaguest piece of music ever to get into the charts'. If Steve Reich or Glenn Branca had been responsible for it, he continued, they would have been given an award by the classical music establishment."
Though 'To Here Knows When' was vaguer still (released afterwards).
― no time for the prussian death cult (nakhchivan), Monday, 6 September 2010 11:53 (thirteen years ago) link
Belle and Sebastian - "The State I Am In":
WTF?!
anyway, i'll go with NMH
― Zeno, Monday, 6 September 2010 12:33 (thirteen years ago) link
or maybe gold soundz
― Zeno, Monday, 6 September 2010 12:34 (thirteen years ago) link
i dunno how you're wtf'ing b&S then plumping for the other two most milquetoasted tracks on the list but eh
― i am legernd (history mayne), Monday, 6 September 2010 12:36 (thirteen years ago) link
Side order of SB with your NMH
― Hongro Horace (Noodle Vague), Monday, 6 September 2010 12:36 (thirteen years ago) link
ok, this last is like the "greatest hits" of 90's indie.
of course there are better songs by pavement/NMH, but gold soundz and holland are good one's and State i Am In is one of the worst B&S songs ever.
if i would make my top 20 90's songs list - none of those songs would appear in it.relatively speaking, those are the best imo.
― Zeno, Monday, 6 September 2010 12:39 (thirteen years ago) link
that "loser" song. i remember that from when it came out! absolutely dreadful. it's like a fucking parody of every socially inept indie mumble there's every been!
...seriously i remember laughing at that song w/my girls in high school, it was so obviously lame.
It is a parody of socially indept indie mumble, which is why it's so great! It's both a parody and a foreshadowing of the next 20 years of indie! Plus it has a sitar! I seriously remember laughing at it -- and the wonderful music video. Laughing at it and laughing in complete joy! My pick for No. 1.
― Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 6 September 2010 13:57 (thirteen years ago) link
The solo in Weezer, tho, is one of the best guitar solos of all time.
― Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 6 September 2010 13:58 (thirteen years ago) link
Voted "Loser"
― Donovan Dagnabbit (WmC), Monday, 6 September 2010 14:01 (thirteen years ago) link
I vote Paranoid Android cuz it was one of the quirkiest pop singles I ever heard on MTV in the 90s. I was already a Radiohead fan at that point (due to The Bends) but that opening acoustic riff, the video, plus the awesome coda made me clamoring to get OK Computer.
― funky brewster (San Te), Monday, 6 September 2010 15:05 (thirteen years ago) link
you may be way too cool for neutral milk hotel but no way is "holland, 1945" 'milquetoasted'
― max skim (k3vin k.), Monday, 6 September 2010 15:37 (thirteen years ago) link
great album but let's all stop fronting about it, the songs on it are all pretty much the same right― gross rainbow of haerosmith (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Monday, September 6, 2010 12:42 AM (10 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
― gross rainbow of haerosmith (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Monday, September 6, 2010 12:42 AM (10 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
thanking u
― dy (max) ia (crüt), Monday, 6 September 2010 15:41 (thirteen years ago) link
kev otm
― Chaki doesn't have beef with unicorn (stevie), Monday, 6 September 2010 15:58 (thirteen years ago) link
lovin "to milquetoast" as a verb tbh
― i saw momus kissing san te claus (samosa gibreel), Monday, 6 September 2010 16:23 (thirteen years ago) link
First time I ever heard "Paranoid Android" was listening to that album while driving around in Athens, Ga, and right when he started singing "Rain down" it started raining I swear to God. I will never forget that day.
― Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 6 September 2010 19:25 (thirteen years ago) link
Woah and i can think of a dozen or so Pavement songs i like more than "Gold Soundz".
― Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 6 September 2010 20:29 (thirteen years ago) link
Protect Your Neck
― Mel Gibson, Bob Dylan, Tom Petty & the current King of Sweden (President Keyes), Monday, 6 September 2010 20:34 (thirteen years ago) link
if i could go through the rest of my life without hearing anyone say anything about the relative importance of weezer, nirvana, beck, neutral milk hotel, my bloody valentine and the wu-tang clan, it would be aok with me.
― having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer), Tuesday, 7 September 2010 08:17 (thirteen years ago) link
step #1 in achieving that goal is probably not reading pitchfork, or pitchfork-related ilm threads
― Chaki doesn't have beef with unicorn (stevie), Tuesday, 7 September 2010 08:30 (thirteen years ago) link
― Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 6 September 2010 14:57 (Yesterday) Bookmark
OTM of course it's a parody.
― village idiot (dog latin), Tuesday, 7 September 2010 08:42 (thirteen years ago) link
but i CAN'T STOP
― having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer), Tuesday, 7 September 2010 08:48 (thirteen years ago) link
AND THAT IS WHY U FAIL
― Chaki doesn't have beef with unicorn (stevie), Tuesday, 7 September 2010 08:49 (thirteen years ago) link
fail is not the greatest of evils; it is worse to want to fail, and not be able to
― having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer), Tuesday, 7 September 2010 08:57 (thirteen years ago) link
also worse to like NMH
― Hongro Horace (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 7 September 2010 09:59 (thirteen years ago) link
List feels ridiculously revisionist, like it's been put together on the basis of who people rated during the 00s - exhibit A being the inclusion of Outkast.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 7 September 2010 11:53 (thirteen years ago) link
Nah, lots of people only rep for Outkast's 90s stuff. Yeah it's a shit list but that's legit I think.
― Hongro Horace (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 7 September 2010 12:01 (thirteen years ago) link
outkast weren't much known in the uk iirc. maybe it was different in the US, though PROBABLY NOT among future-p4k-writers.
― i am legernd (history mayne), Tuesday, 7 September 2010 12:04 (thirteen years ago) link
all my posts are predicated on not giving a flying fuck about p4k
― Hongro Horace (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 7 September 2010 12:08 (thirteen years ago) link
Outkast had three top 20 records in the states and several videos that had huge airplay in the 90s. Pretty inescapable even for people like me who weren't paying particular attention.
― EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 7 September 2010 12:09 (thirteen years ago) link
man, why wouldn't you want this list to be revisionist - do you really just want a bunch of pitchfork writers to tell you what they were listening to in elementary school/high school/college?
― da croupier, Tuesday, 7 September 2010 12:47 (thirteen years ago) link
It wd be funner.
― Hongro Horace (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 7 September 2010 12:49 (thirteen years ago) link
List could do with some Crash Test Dummies
If you think this list was revisionist check out their "songs of the 60s" list, guarantee they were listening to NONE of that shit back then
― da croupier, Tuesday, 7 September 2010 12:52 (thirteen years ago) link
I too would be shocked and amazed to discover that Pitchfork writers were listening to Neutral Milk Hotel and Pavement at college.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 7 September 2010 12:53 (thirteen years ago) link
wait are you complaining this list is too revisionist or not enough now
― da croupier, Tuesday, 7 September 2010 12:54 (thirteen years ago) link
Not complaining at all, just changing the angle of derision for the sake of it.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 7 September 2010 12:56 (thirteen years ago) link
lol
― i am legernd (history mayne), Tuesday, 7 September 2010 12:56 (thirteen years ago) link
do you really just want a bunch of pitchfork writers to tell you what they were listening to in elementary school/high school/college?
ideally i don't want a bunch of pfork writers telling me anything about what they've ever listened to
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Tuesday, 7 September 2010 12:59 (thirteen years ago) link
again, probably best not to read the site or related ilm threads then
― Chaki doesn't have beef with unicorn (stevie), Tuesday, 7 September 2010 13:00 (thirteen years ago) link
They've actually pitched up outside his house, next to the man who sells hotdogs on matchdays.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 7 September 2010 13:01 (thirteen years ago) link
i don't read the site!
i always think ilx is better than to agree w/pfork ;_;
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Tuesday, 7 September 2010 13:04 (thirteen years ago) link
GOD I WISH
― Hongro Horace (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 7 September 2010 13:06 (thirteen years ago) link
well, you know, broken clocks telling the correct time twice a day and all that...
― Chaki doesn't have beef with unicorn (stevie), Tuesday, 7 September 2010 13:07 (thirteen years ago) link