ODD FUTURE WOLF GANG KILL THEM ALL

not a character but... lol nevermind

show was a huge classic for young me. dude is a few years younger than me but feelin synergy w earl on this. nice to see dbz still transcending generations of nerdy kids & infiltrating rap music

imo the big diff between these dudes & 'classic' horrorcore: 4chan

lol is this gonna turn into "the view analyzes odd future" or what?

^^^the name for next year's swag thread

(not really)

but really, i don't see what this has to do with 4chan at all

teenagers using the word "faggot" is not the work of 4chan, i assure you

uh oh are we about to reenact yesterday

can i make it clear from the jump that bcuz i think they are 'influenced' by internet shock culture this does not mean that the music is good bad or indifferent

i just really don't see what this has to do with 4chan

it just strikes me as something a rolling stone writer would try and shoehorn into a 75 word blurb even tho it really doesn't hold water

i just really don't see what this has to do with 4chan

yeah srsly dudes pastiche aesthetic + amiable nihilism is a lot closer to like current vice mag shit than 4chan bro

i dont see how these arent dudes raised on GROSS INTERNET JPEGS

idk they just seem like descendants of skate culture that has existed long before 4chan

it all really just reminds me of 'jackass' -- i never would've thought of 4chan

maybe 4chan is too specific. but theres definitely a level of nu-internet casual homophobia & shock tactic shit that reminds me of message boards where dudes freely through around faggot & try to outdo each other bragging abt how shocking the porn theyve seen is

also the stuff they're engaging in aren't any diff than things geto boys rapped about oh over 20 years ago

wow bad grammars

would like to see anybody point out a "shocking" line that couldn't been written by bushwick bill, ice cube, wu tang, kool keith, etc

these guys aren't breaking new ground but they're mixing it up better than anybody has in a while so

its like u guys are taking it personally

this sounds different to me than what those artists were doing, absolutely

i just think it's a bit of a convenient comparison is all

but theres definitely a level of nu-internet casual homophobia & shock tactic shit that reminds me of message boards where dudes freely through around faggot & try to outdo each other bragging abt how shocking the porn theyve seen is

idg this - cant really see how the shit they rap about is some level of SHOCKING above what plenty of other ppl have rapped about already? i mean they do say faggot a lot, i guess

what seems 'interesting' to me is less the gore/porn angle than how similar theses dudes are to noize/post-noize stuff aesthetically? also feel like theyre more clearly self-reflective/vulnerable than like geto boys for e.g.

idk probably im 'out of my dpeth' w/r/t to this shit but vice/sk8 culture is a way better ref point than 4chan

yeah i mean im not saying these guys arent 'interesting' or even somewhat 'important' (altho per usual i find the suspicious speed w/ which they blew up to be kinda like wha...) & i dont begrudge anyone for liking them ... but i do think they're just kinda aite

― NOT FUNNY NEEDS MORE GUCCI (deej), Tuesday, August 31, 2010

o_O at the schizophrenia of deej's two main visits to the thread. from this to str8 trolling.

i think 4chan-type stuff is a current just like eminem or fondle em freestyle battle rap type shit is a current, but u know that stuff is transferred into art over mutant boom bap: it's not an empty nihilism, if one of these guys said "i've got issues" on a track it would be literally true. part of what's going on with 4chan type shit anyway is generational male rebellion & angst presented in a way that's tricky to dismiss as corny, a visceral rejection of, & reflection of, "the world our parents left for us". and o f are sick with it lyrically and have great hooks and ppl really dig the production style. lamp otm abt "clearly self-reflective/vulnerable". i mean "odd future" ffs.

products of popped rubbers and pops that did not love us
so when i leave home, keep my heart in the top cupboard

― J0rdan S., Saturday, September 4, 2010

omg shock rap is all everyone talks abt!!!

it's odd future buttercup, go on fuck with us
a sure-fire way to get your mother fucked

omg shock rap!!!

ahh but i didnt say it was empty nihilism

my question was how Lil B was gonna still the light back -- hes pretty WILD & CRAZY cooking things but that cant really compete with the gimmick of bloody music videos where u remove your fingernail on tape

― the embrace of waka flocka is v pertinent (deej), Saturday, September 4, 2010

wigga plz

seems more like a whiney post

also i really need a thread to get to the bottom of the deej whole internet phenomena thing, tastemaker, popularity, reportage vs opinion, etc. it's incoherent to me and when i try to make sense of it it leads me to some very 8971 answers by sundown type conclusions

i think part of the problem is u are reading between the lines when there is nothing to read

I don't think lil b & of have the same audience. People @ philaflava, who are total backpackers listening to ehlzi & jay elec, are goin nuts about earl & tyler.

― sisilafami, Sunday, September 5, 2010 9:58 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

philaflava have a 12 page lil b thread. they like anything moderately hyped by the internet (w some exceptions -- thun etc) & are by & large more european genre cheerleaders than anything else

my question was how Lil B was gonna still the light back -- hes pretty WILD & CRAZY cooking things but that cant really compete with the gimmick of bloody music videos where u remove your fingernail on tape

― the embrace of waka flocka is v pertinent (deej), Saturday, September 4, 2010

wigga plz

― zvookster, Sunday, September 5, 2010 2:19 PM (15 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

oy the wild & crazy capslock is kinda weingartenish for which i apologize. but 4 real guys, youre reading like critical judgments into a tossed off thought abt the internet buzz machine that has nothing to do w/ the music in question.

philaflava have a 12 page lil b thread.
― the embrace of waka flocka is v pertinent (deej), Saturday, September 4, 2010

with 3 guys posting his songs and the other ones asking if this shit is serious.

they're not really the type of people who'll like lil b, but they're all over earl & tyler's songs

its also a board where ppl call each other 'faggots' freely so

game recognize game

(it's probably a terrible board but it's not the point)

i just think ofwgkta's appeal isn't the same as lil b.

agreed

i think this whole argument looks pretty stupid but i haven't really read any of it. i will say that at least Tyler loves vice and would probably say that skating and just being a grimy fucked up skater kid has WAYYY more to do with what comes out in their lyrics and visual aesthetic than any internet shit.

not sure how that shit is so separate from the internet now -- i mean dude posted his own mixtape on the hypebeast forums -- but w/e

any of the shock stuff, horrorcore stuff or ott sex talk here seems v. much in line to me with (southern california even) skate culture and kids i grew up around and likely has little to no 4chan influence but tbf i already forgot why that point was being argued

the internet /= 4chan

like, even with their obvious web skills, i'm sure they coulda dropped almost these exact same recs 10 years back

i dont read 4chan idk i just used that as a stand-in for 'kids on the internet who circulate lemonparty.jpg'

i bow to board & bear on the matter

like, even with their obvious web skills, i'm sure they coulda dropped almost these exact same recs 10 years back

― bear, bear, bear, Sunday, September 5, 2010 3:46 PM (30 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

this stuff doesnt sound like shock rap from 10 years ago

well, you know, i'm glad for that. just sayin, with a couple different synths or whatever, this particular group of kids would probably mostly be kicking around these same themes intrnt or no

idk i mean ill defer to the socal skate experts if this is, like, representing the realness for them or whatever
but to me the shock tactics remind me of running across nsfw memes on the internet. scatology from teens on computers etc

nothing made by teenagers since like... 2000 or something could really be 'separate' from the internet, it's just that what you were saying made it seem like odd future stuff was directly descended or birthed from the internet whereas they're just a pretty prime example of what skate culture is like right now -- i mean i don't know for a fact seeing as i don't know any skaters, esp teenagers, but these kids just remind me of skaters from when i was in high school/middle school, even insofar as it was those kids that were always talking about sites where you could see dudes on the electric chair & shit

and srry deej, wasn't tryin to play on some locals only realness w/e, just sayin.. kids like to talk nasty shit.
that and i don't really see an alarming amount of shock tactic here and it's def'ly not the thing i think most people here are checking on it for

not denying it's in there tho