"i just admitted ive barely listened to much of it."
listen to more and come back with pie and opinion. you don't want to get all kill bill/dr. morbs up in here.
― scott seward, Saturday, 4 September 2010 20:30 (fifteen years ago)
wait that should be all kill bill/momus! morbz was basterds.
― scott seward, Saturday, 4 September 2010 20:33 (fifteen years ago)
scott i never talked shit about the music at all -- i just mentioned how ppl were talking about it -- theres nothing wrong w/ being gimmicky per se!! i cant believe this is a point of contention
yall are mad defensive
― the embrace of waka flocka is v pertinent (deej), Saturday, 4 September 2010 22:45 (fifteen years ago)
classic deej itt
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 4 September 2010 22:48 (fifteen years ago)
classic sensitive autogoons itt
― the embrace of waka flocka is v pertinent (deej), Saturday, 4 September 2010 22:48 (fifteen years ago)
sensitive goons you all need spoons
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 4 September 2010 22:49 (fifteen years ago)
deej, this whole thing of coming into threads with contrary opinions (which is absolutely fine) and then being all "y'all are so defensive!" when ppl back up their own opinions, cut it out
― unfinested display names I have loved (The Reverend), Saturday, 4 September 2010 22:56 (fifteen years ago)
i didnt have a 'contrary opinion' -- i just wasnt cheerleading
― the embrace of waka flocka is v pertinent (deej), Saturday, 4 September 2010 22:59 (fifteen years ago)
well plus its that thing on here and elsewhere where people are like: wait, why does everyone like this stuff all of a sudden? CUZ WE LIKE IT! yeah but REALLY whats going on here? NO WE JUST REALLY LIKE IT. hmmm, what's the deal its just like this other thing and this and this. and on and on. its true that things happen fast on the web and i understand blog burnout but there isn't always a reason to be suspicious. its just fun and we like it. even if the pitchfork guy likes it!
― scott seward, Saturday, 4 September 2010 23:06 (fifteen years ago)
it's an aspect of what they're doing but not the reason for the attention.
yeah imo t's a real stretch to call these guys shock-rap. yes there's deliberately omg stuff in there, but the production and energy and cadences and rhymes have a lot more going on than just "dude i can't believe he said that."
― a tenth level which features a single castle (tipsy mothra), Saturday, 4 September 2010 23:14 (fifteen years ago)
(that was meant to say either it's a real stretach or 'tis a real stretch, whichever one sounds better)
yeesh bwasher & i were being self deprecating about being suspicious!! im going to check this stuff outdoesnt mean its not funny to lol @ blog hype cycle
― the embrace of waka flocka is v pertinent (deej), Saturday, 4 September 2010 23:15 (fifteen years ago)
http://www.watblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/HypeCycle.png
― a tenth level which features a single castle (tipsy mothra), Saturday, 4 September 2010 23:17 (fifteen years ago)
yes 'these guys are good' is usually what inspires ppl to care about something. but thats ... always true.
but their music is 'about' being shocking. i dont see how this is rlly arguable
― the embrace of waka flocka is v pertinent (deej), Saturday, 4 September 2010 23:18 (fifteen years ago)
o wait the pitchfork guy likes this? I'm out
― (e_3) (Edward III), Saturday, 4 September 2010 23:21 (fifteen years ago)
"yes 'these guys are good' is usually what inspires ppl to care about something. but thats ... always true"
but on ilm people come up with a zillion different theories about why something gets attention or why people are falling for something and its almost like they can't believe that its because people just like it. like its mass hypnosis. instead of just, you know, word of mouth about something cool!
― scott seward, Sunday, 5 September 2010 01:08 (fifteen years ago)
yeah but they have the exact same audience
― the embrace of waka flocka is v pertinent (deej), Saturday, 4 September 2010 21:00 (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
hiphop fans in liking hiphop shockah.
― a hoy hoy, Sunday, 5 September 2010 06:23 (fifteen years ago)
from tyler's twitter: "I Have Departed Ways With Odd Future. It Was Fun While It Lasted, But I Am Now A Lone (ex) Wolf."
hoping this doesn't last, he's the core of OF
― cyclops eyes over here (patsy), Sunday, 5 September 2010 08:26 (fifteen years ago)
have to wonder if he's fucking around... i mean, there really is no odd future w/o him, considering earl is gone
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 5 September 2010 08:29 (fifteen years ago)
also it would be like he broke up with all of his best friends? weird
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 5 September 2010 08:33 (fifteen years ago)
yeah that's what i'm going to assume until some more info comes out
― cyclops eyes over here (patsy), Sunday, 5 September 2010 08:35 (fifteen years ago)
classic thread
― i feed these skreets (tpp), Sunday, 5 September 2010 12:02 (fifteen years ago)
I don't think lil b & of have the same audience. People @ philaflava, who are total backpackers listening to ehlzi & jay elec, are goin nuts about earl & tyler.
― sisilafami, Sunday, 5 September 2010 14:58 (fifteen years ago)
I guess I could toot my own horn here. I spoke to Tyler around a month ago. Here it is:http://nochorus.wordpress.com/2010/08/06/fuck-steve-harvey-interview-with-tyler-the-creator/
Fucking toot toot.
― No-Chorus, Sunday, 5 September 2010 15:59 (fifteen years ago)
super saying, with ruthless slayingseat puss, sweet puss have my tooth decaying
― J0rdan S., Saturday, September 4, 2010 4:22 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark
pretty sure this is super saiyan
― samosa gibreel, Sunday, 5 September 2010 17:33 (fifteen years ago)
as in
http://images.paraorkut.com/img/pics/images/d/dragonball_z_anime-6737.jpg
oh
yeah i'm not real up on dragonball z characters \(o_O)/
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 5 September 2010 17:37 (fifteen years ago)
not a character but... lol nevermind
show was a huge classic for young me. dude is a few years younger than me but feelin synergy w earl on this. nice to see dbz still transcending generations of nerdy kids & infiltrating rap music
― samosa gibreel, Sunday, 5 September 2010 17:41 (fifteen years ago)
imo the big diff between these dudes & 'classic' horrorcore: 4chan
― the embrace of waka flocka is v pertinent (deej), Sunday, 5 September 2010 18:07 (fifteen years ago)
lol is this gonna turn into "the view analyzes odd future" or what?
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 5 September 2010 18:10 (fifteen years ago)
^^^the name for next year's swag thread
― the embrace of waka flocka is v pertinent (deej), Sunday, 5 September 2010 18:11 (fifteen years ago)
(not really)
but really, i don't see what this has to do with 4chan at all
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 5 September 2010 18:12 (fifteen years ago)
teenagers using the word "faggot" is not the work of 4chan, i assure you
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 5 September 2010 18:13 (fifteen years ago)
uh oh are we about to reenact yesterday
― the embrace of waka flocka is v pertinent (deej), Sunday, 5 September 2010 18:16 (fifteen years ago)
can i make it clear from the jump that bcuz i think they are 'influenced' by internet shock culture this does not mean that the music is good bad or indifferent
― the embrace of waka flocka is v pertinent (deej), Sunday, 5 September 2010 18:17 (fifteen years ago)
i just really don't see what this has to do with 4chan
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 5 September 2010 18:18 (fifteen years ago)
it just strikes me as something a rolling stone writer would try and shoehorn into a 75 word blurb even tho it really doesn't hold water
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 5 September 2010 18:19 (fifteen years ago)
yeah srsly dudes pastiche aesthetic + amiable nihilism is a lot closer to like current vice mag shit than 4chan bro
― swagula (Lamp), Sunday, 5 September 2010 18:26 (fifteen years ago)
i dont see how these arent dudes raised on GROSS INTERNET JPEGS
― the embrace of waka flocka is v pertinent (deej), Sunday, 5 September 2010 18:27 (fifteen years ago)
idk they just seem like descendants of skate culture that has existed long before 4chan
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 5 September 2010 18:28 (fifteen years ago)
it all really just reminds me of 'jackass' -- i never would've thought of 4chan
maybe 4chan is too specific. but theres definitely a level of nu-internet casual homophobia & shock tactic shit that reminds me of message boards where dudes freely through around faggot & try to outdo each other bragging abt how shocking the porn theyve seen is
― the embrace of waka flocka is v pertinent (deej), Sunday, 5 September 2010 18:28 (fifteen years ago)
also the stuff they're engaging in aren't any diff than things geto boys rapped about oh over 20 years ago
― (e_3) (Edward III), Sunday, 5 September 2010 18:35 (fifteen years ago)
wow bad grammars
― (e_3) (Edward III), Sunday, 5 September 2010 18:36 (fifteen years ago)
would like to see anybody point out a "shocking" line that couldn't been written by bushwick bill, ice cube, wu tang, kool keith, etc
these guys aren't breaking new ground but they're mixing it up better than anybody has in a while so
― (e_3) (Edward III), Sunday, 5 September 2010 18:38 (fifteen years ago)
its like u guys are taking it personally
― the embrace of waka flocka is v pertinent (deej), Sunday, 5 September 2010 18:42 (fifteen years ago)
this sounds different to me than what those artists were doing, absolutely
i just think it's a bit of a convenient comparison is all
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 5 September 2010 18:44 (fifteen years ago)
but theres definitely a level of nu-internet casual homophobia & shock tactic shit that reminds me of message boards where dudes freely through around faggot & try to outdo each other bragging abt how shocking the porn theyve seen is
idg this - cant really see how the shit they rap about is some level of SHOCKING above what plenty of other ppl have rapped about already? i mean they do say faggot a lot, i guess
what seems 'interesting' to me is less the gore/porn angle than how similar theses dudes are to noize/post-noize stuff aesthetically? also feel like theyre more clearly self-reflective/vulnerable than like geto boys for e.g.
idk probably im 'out of my dpeth' w/r/t to this shit but vice/sk8 culture is a way better ref point than 4chan
― swagula (Lamp), Sunday, 5 September 2010 18:44 (fifteen years ago)