Was/Is Morrissey Racist?

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y morrissey y :(((((((

funky brewster (San Te), Saturday, 4 September 2010 14:29 (fifteen years ago)

seem to remember reading about a fringe theory in china contending that the ancestors of han chinese became isolated from other populations by topography/ice age and evolved slightly different characteristics, which would make them a subspecies i guess?

Watched something on the bbc which talked about this being a widely held idea and fairly convincingly proved it wrong before.

if, Saturday, 4 September 2010 14:34 (fifteen years ago)

Great cat picture though.

StanM, Saturday, 4 September 2010 14:35 (fifteen years ago)

cat's off to morrissey

real s1ock (s1ocki), Saturday, 4 September 2010 14:45 (fifteen years ago)

<3 s1ocki <3 <3

gross rainbow of haerosmith (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Saturday, 4 September 2010 15:06 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah, just for clarity, I don't think he thinks like Adolf Hitler or anything, which is why I said fascist talk instead of calling him one. But we're talking about an insanely clever guy. In that UNCUT interview that Paul Morley did a few years back, he's dropping in references to James Joyce and Christopher Marlowe without PM seemingly even noticing. The idea that it was a slip up or he didn't express himself clearly beggars belief.

He knows what he said, he knows what it implies, he doesn't believe it but said it anyway. Just to upset some people. Because more than anything else he agrees with his role model Oscar Wilde, the only thing worse than being talked about...

Just look at the list of stars he idolizes, he believes it's his job to be controversial, to be an outsider, to be misunderstood. But in this day and age, it's pretty hard to be very outrageously offensive, without, y'know, being quite horrible. This time he's had to be really fucking out of order to several billion people.

How funny would it be if there was a war and we were all killed. Just because Morrissey was in a bad mood?

Duran (Doran), Saturday, 4 September 2010 15:39 (fifteen years ago)

think it's time for a POX morrissey songs since the early 1990s

i am legernd (history mayne), Saturday, 4 September 2010 15:41 (fifteen years ago)

kidding, pick only five

i am legernd (history mayne), Saturday, 4 September 2010 15:42 (fifteen years ago)

just messing, i'll stop -- pick one morrissey song from the last two-odd decades

or don't, no pressure

i am legernd (history mayne), Saturday, 4 September 2010 15:42 (fifteen years ago)

Everyday Is Like Sunday
The World Is Full Of Crashing Bores
It's Not Your Birthday Anymore
Suedehead
The First Of The Gang To Die
Speedway
National Front Disco
Hairdresser On Fire
Late Night Maudlin Street
The Last Of The Famous International Playboys

I could have easily done POXX. I understand I'm probably in a minority here but Morrissey is a very good example (IMO) of great art/ bad man. I mean now that Spector is dead and we're yet to see Rupert Murdoch's watercolours.

Duran (Doran), Saturday, 4 September 2010 15:59 (fifteen years ago)

(Kowloon) Is Now? (sorry)

Neil S, Saturday, 4 September 2010 15:59 (fifteen years ago)

XP: Sorry, didn't see the early 90s bit.

Duran (Doran), Saturday, 4 September 2010 16:00 (fifteen years ago)

How funny would it be if there was a war and we were all killed. Just because Morrissey was in a bad mood?

― Duran (Doran), Saturday, 4 September 2010 16:39 (17 minutes ago)

now you put it like that....

i think you're probably right about his motivations, the wish to reclaim some of the anathema of olden times

i don't know his post-smiths stuff but there is something ghoulish about his wilde/stephen dedalus fixation and his creepy fascination w/ rough trade, nazis, football thugs etc

his life is his art etc

nakhchivan, Saturday, 4 September 2010 16:11 (fifteen years ago)

Phil Spector? He isn't dead... or is there a joke I'm not getting? xp

like an ant to a crumb (DavidM), Saturday, 4 September 2010 16:19 (fifteen years ago)

Man, even by my usual standards I'm not on the ball today. Yeah, Spector was a bad example, given that he is, as you rightly, say alive.

Duran (Doran), Saturday, 4 September 2010 16:23 (fifteen years ago)

rip

nakhchivan, Saturday, 4 September 2010 16:30 (fifteen years ago)

My father had to deal with Morrissey. My grandfather had to deal with Morrissey. My great grandfather had to deal with Morrissey. My great great great great great great. When it's gonna stop!?

― Duran (Doran), Saturday, 4 September 2010 14:32 (2 hours ago) Bookmark

Many lols at this.

piscesx, Saturday, 4 September 2010 16:35 (fifteen years ago)

Stop Me If You've Heard This Won Ton Before. (Sorry)

Duran (Doran), Saturday, 4 September 2010 16:46 (fifteen years ago)

This is a man who has nobody to tell him things like 'no' and 'you're wrong' to his face - of course he's going to say offensive shit until he runs into trouble. Idiot. To defend a 'subhuman' remark by saying how horrible the Chinese are to animals kind of misses the point. I fear this shows Chinese people as all too human, just like the rest of us. So, y'know - category error.

The problem I always run into with Morrissey is that he's smart - he has that autodidact's love for an A-level syllabus that never was - but not as smart as he thinks he is.

maintenant avec plus de fromage (suzy), Saturday, 4 September 2010 20:50 (fifteen years ago)

this could be his father ted moment

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtYfHW5wu8Q&p=13DDD48B7E52DB99&playnext=1&index=52

Dr X O'Skeleton, Saturday, 4 September 2010 21:44 (fifteen years ago)

Frankly, Mr Cankly

― buzza, Friday, September 3, 2010 2:54 PM (4 days ago) Bookmark

all time

having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer), Tuesday, 7 September 2010 10:49 (fifteen years ago)

ahahaha

i am legernd (history mayne), Tuesday, 7 September 2010 10:51 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah, pretty great.

o sh!t a ˁ˚ᴥ˚ˀ (ENBB), Tuesday, 7 September 2010 10:53 (fifteen years ago)

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2010/9/3/1283529634767/Morrissey-001.jpg

Since Morrisey is positioned, in this pic, under a member of the species Felis catus, wouldn't it be correct to say he himself is the subspecies here?

Tuomas, Tuesday, 7 September 2010 11:34 (fifteen years ago)

His quiff has got ever more extravagant over the years but that is ridiculous.

Tom A. (Tom B.) (Tom C.) (Tom D.), Tuesday, 7 September 2010 11:36 (fifteen years ago)

how is horribbly formed?

having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer), Tuesday, 7 September 2010 11:37 (fifteen years ago)

xp

having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer), Tuesday, 7 September 2010 11:37 (fifteen years ago)

Tuomas OTM

Neil S, Tuesday, 7 September 2010 12:46 (fifteen years ago)

http://www.imvrs.com/DasBlog/content/binary/davy_crockett_image.gif

Arvo Pärty (Paul in Santa Cruz), Tuesday, 7 September 2010 17:55 (fifteen years ago)

oh dear

former moderator, please give generously (DG), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 14:18 (fifteen years ago)

Re: Morrissey racist?
Are Jews really a race? No more so than Catholics or Protestants.

Chaki doesn't have beef with unicorn (stevie), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 14:33 (fifteen years ago)

lol @ the 'Similar Threads' at the bottom

great British wasteman = u (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 14:36 (fifteen years ago)

a variation

former moderator, please give generously (DG), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 14:47 (fifteen years ago)

ten months pass...

Morrissey may or may not be a racist, but here's final proof (if it were needed) that he's a total fucking idiot:
http://www.nme.com/news/morrissey/58312

Neil S, Thursday, 28 July 2011 11:20 (fourteen years ago)

The Mirror reports that last night a spokesperson for the singer said: "Morrissey has decided not to comment any further as he believes his statement speaks for itself."

It certainly does, Mozza

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Thursday, 28 July 2011 11:25 (fourteen years ago)

I am not making light of the attacks in Norway but I laughed out loud.

Keep Reading! (Mount Cleaners), Thursday, 28 July 2011 12:06 (fourteen years ago)

I mean I have friends in the animal rights movement, but I see this ludicrous crap on Facebook all of the time.

Keep Reading! (Mount Cleaners), Thursday, 28 July 2011 12:07 (fourteen years ago)

Don't know for sure, but certainly wouldn't be surprised to find Anders Breivik in agreement with the sentiments expressed by Mozza here

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Thursday, 28 July 2011 12:11 (fourteen years ago)

Hitler was a vegan... COINCIDENCE?

Neil S, Thursday, 28 July 2011 12:14 (fourteen years ago)

but facetiousness aside, Tom D on the money.

Neil S, Thursday, 28 July 2011 12:16 (fourteen years ago)

I don't think they had vegans in those days

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Thursday, 28 July 2011 12:16 (fourteen years ago)

Breivik has nothing to do with animal rights, wasn't he some sort of hunting enthusiast?

Quantum of Pie (NickB), Thursday, 28 July 2011 12:24 (fourteen years ago)

Quietus fighting the good fight: http://twitter.com/#!/search?q=%23MorrisseyIsADickhead

Neil S, Thursday, 28 July 2011 13:45 (fourteen years ago)

I don't look to Morrissey for enlightening commentary about terrorism.

Keep Reading! (Mount Cleaners), Thursday, 28 July 2011 13:51 (fourteen years ago)

that's lucky.

Neil S, Thursday, 28 July 2011 14:01 (fourteen years ago)

... or anything else you care to mention (xp)

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Thursday, 28 July 2011 14:21 (fourteen years ago)

My friend Mel died last year; she was a massive Morrissey fan and he wrote what remains one of the kindest in memoriam notes I've read, as well as being a very well-observed take on the fan dynamic from someone who is a fan himself. She was a cool soul and I still miss her. But some part of me is glad she never had to deal with everything since then, including this, the Morrissey-solo flap and the comments about China (which, since her background was Chinese, would likely have really hurt her badly).

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 28 July 2011 14:29 (fourteen years ago)

I'm a Lou Reed fan, so who am I to talk?

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Thursday, 28 July 2011 14:34 (fourteen years ago)

Yeah the morrissey-solo stuff is shameful, esp considering how worshipful that sure was in general

No. I think social networks need to keep it real (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 28 July 2011 14:35 (fourteen years ago)


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