Pitchfork: The Top 200 Tracks of the 1990s: 20-01

and what's actually even worse are people like electricsound who contribute nothing except popping in to pile on someone once everyone else starts

you really are the most pathetic individual in this entire board's history.

1. i'm not upset about the list! i don't know what's on it. i have no intention of clicking on pfork again. i was amused at finding these DREADFUL songs being repped for by anyone, anywhere, and people took offense.
2. "it's just a pop song" is my least favourite defence of stupid or unconvincing songs. though even if the lyrics were any good i'd still hate the sound. "loser" is just a piece of shit.
3. alternative to bitching about pfork is currently transcribing endless endless interview, neither offers much in the way of enjoyment :(

One area where I completely have Lex's back is re: Pavement; that song is horrible.

i was amused at finding these DREADFUL songs being repped for by anyone, anywhere

Do you really have no way of understanding what might make some people like them, though? I mean, I don't give a toss about Bob Dylan at all -- I think his music is boring -- but I absolutely get why other people, those who privilege things like lyrics and personae more than I do, find something of value in him. I'd be curious to know why you think so many people like Beck or Pavement or My Bloody Valentine or Neutral Milk Hotel.

(Without suggesting that those people are dumb or brainwashed or whatever.)

I'll forever rep for "In the Aeroplane Over The Sea". It's one of my favourite albums for a lot of reasons. I don't think it has anything to do with being brainwashed, it's just very good.

Lots of songs by bands I like that aren't necessarily songs I like - Gold Soundz isn't even that great a song.

reptilian shapeshifters trying to control our brains thru indie music iirc

Don't want to derail thread, but I love Dylan because I privilege singing and personae. Lyrics are a happy third.

i think the thread has been officially and thoroughly derailed already.

i love dylan because he's funny as fuck. when he's good.

I love Dylan because he wasn't afraid to move to London to be with the girl he loved even tho he had it made in B Hills

http://www.latenightwithjimmyfallon.com/submit-a-video/index2.shtml

man i didn't know dylan moved somewhere to be with a chick. hate that dude now.

9/02/10 was yesterday dudes

we're in a post-90210 world now guys

hi, deej!

missed trick by todd haynes, really

http://pinkisthenewblog.com/home/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/093008_dylanreturns90210.jpg

see he totally coulda played born again era bob

Bob's got his own teen hearthrob movie:

http://g-ecx.images-amazon.com/images/G/02/ciu/79/d8/fbd8017b42a05c5a45572210.L._SL500_AA300_.jpg

didnt know bob dylan wrote that for cut copy

he also wrote the lyrics for "Windowlicker."

I love Dylan because I privilege singing

O_O

Dylan is one of the most insufferable singers of all time.

OF ALL TIME

Where the big bands of the mid-90s were filling theaters and copping the arena-rock moves that had ossified somewhere back in the 70s,

-_-

Surely he's not talking about ironic boas!

I always have hated Neutral Milk Hotel. Now I'll explain why

1) It's nothing but campfire music with timely, orchestrated buildup shoveled on top
2) The Vocals remind me of an indie version of Blink 182's vocals.
3) It really comes down to #2 most of all. The singer makes me vomit diarrhea

NMH sound is grating for me and not boring like some people mentioned upthread.

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Now I'm listening to 'Commom People'. This has an equivalently annoying sound.

I listen to a lot of lo-fi and experimental junk so I know the difference of harsh music that sounds pleasing and music that is just an annoyance.

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Again, my opinion is just my opinion on what sounds aesthetically pleasing and what does not. So no offense if I shit vomit to a band you truly like.

"I listen to a lot of lo-fi and experimental junk so I know the difference of harsh music that sounds pleasing and music that is just an annoyance."

do tell!

fair enough. don't know what 'campfire music' means though.

"holland 1945" is a beautiful song & fuck anyone who disagrees

so wait, are you shitting vomit or vomiting shit

he knows the difference of shitting vomit that sounds pleasing and vomiting shit that is just an annoyance

xp both at the same time as I listen to holland 1945. but if I hit pause it abrubtly stops until I hit play again

vomiting shit sounds way more like a serious medical condition rather than just an annoyance

in the aeroplane over the sea is such a horrible album

and it gets unbelievably high ratings. I seriously think it is the most overrated indie album of all 90s

or the most appropriately rated

never heard it, does it sound more like shit being vomited or vomit being shat?

as with every list ever, why that MBV song? why that kast song? why that pavement song? why that radiohead song?

xp NMH haters - http://i27.tinypic.com/33mreph.gif

it sounds like david the gnome shitting into the mouthpiece of a french horn and vomiting onto an acoustic guitar

haha

if a picture is worth a thousand words, how much is a gif worth

a thousand posts

http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/7770/1283501259727.gif

Pavement :: Pitchfork as Sgt. Pepper :: Rolling Stone

hands up if you're surprised by any of this...

hands up if you're tired of shitty analogies

Would easily have voted for MBV if the choice was "Soon." I'm also not British so "Common People" means nothing more to me than just a good song. I also lived in Silver Lake during the 90s, so I'm fine with all the "Loser" hatred.

Voted Mazzy because I like the song, however I would have voted "Cannonball" over all of these.

actually that's a pretty good analogy

I'm working class and I understand the deep hurt caused to others by Common People. I feel the same way about The Chauffeur by Duran Duran, Smooth Operator by Sade, Country House by Blur, How To Be A Millionaire by ABC, I've Never Been To Me be Charlene and many other songs that rub the restrictions of my damn class in my face! I could only dream of visiting Niece, and the Isles of Greece and sipping champagne on a yacht! When will these people think of the emotional turmoil they're wreaking on the listeners! But at least I had the class solidarity of my brothers in arms Wham! on such socialist sons of toil classics as Everything She Wants and Young Guns! I can only dream of what it must be like to be on the other side of the fence... to not be invited to be part of Jarvis Cocker's gang of misfits... whom I imagine to be slightly like the cast of the Breakfast Club but with odd teeth and jackets from Oxfam.

Loser is such a shit song.

Doran: go fuck yourself, you unpleasant dickwad.

jesus christ this thread cannot die fast enough