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^^^
For which entry? Do you remember?

Uncle Tupelo actually did get a shout out too, in the Wilco entry for "The Long Cut," but that's as close to country as this list got, and that's pretty goddamn far from being their best song.

Can we talk about "Via Chicago" being the Wilco choice for a second? I mean, it's a phenomenal deep cut, and I love it to death, but c'mon, "Shot in the Arm" is so good they put it on the album twice. And "Misunderstood" getting the Being There nod is a bit of a laugh, but whatever.

I agree that Gold Soundz is a standout on Crooked Rain, but it still doesn't sound like a watershed moment in 90's music the way "Summer Babe" or most of Slanted & Enchanted does. It just seems like people must've been repping the band, not the song--the way they did for like Tribe.

xpost "Show Me Love" is a see also for maybe "Everybody Everybody"? #171?

can we all just agree that CRCR is not a great record

Right, but then the editors must've selected "Gold Soundz," which just seems strange.

And CRCR is probably my favorite record of theirs.

Great now I have "Red Rover" stuck in my head. Thanks for nothing, Grillz.

pretty sure it was "Everybody Everybody"

Just can't imagine anyone getting, like, super-pumped about Gold Soundz the way you could about other tracks in Pavement's catalogue.

CRCR falls off a cliff so fucking hard after "Range Life", it's an near-incomparable train-wreck.

Better songs than "Gold Soundz":

In the Mouth a Desert
Cut Your Hair
Trigger Cut
Shady Lane
Date with IKEA
Summer Babe
Stereo
Embassy Row

...And Carrot Rope

Terror Twilight > Wowee Zowee > Slanted and Enchanted > Crooked Rain Crooked Rain > Brighten the Corners

REAL TALK

xpost "Show Me Love" is a see also for maybe "Everybody Everybody"? #171?

― Parenthetical Grillz,

Different song. Robyn's "Show Me Love":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ia2OkrWNmzE

I don't know/care about Pavement enough to challenge the other options, but I still think "Gold Soundz" makes sense for an inevitably nostalgic look back on the 90s from an indie perspective. From the writeup:

But "Gold Soundz" was different. It sounded like a memory in the best possible way. The first two words are "go back," and that's exactly what it does: It was easy, light, and tinged with nostalgia

oh no one actually cares about that Robyn song

Nostalgia for R.E.M., rob. Which is tough as R.E.M. were both active and more successful than Pavement in the 1990s.

Terror Twilight > Wowee Zowee > Slanted and Enchanted > Crooked Rain Crooked Rain > Brighten the Corners

REAL TALK

not sure whether to excelsior this or not

Terror Twilight apologists are in my circle of death with NMH defenders.

yeah that is hilarious, that list

Terror Twilight > Wowee Zowee > Slanted and Enchanted > Crooked Rain Crooked Rain > Brighten the Corners

This list only makes sense to me if I hold my laptop up to a mirror.

Different song. Robyn's "Show Me Love"

>>>Mind blown.<<<

"Spit on a Stranger", "Major Leagues", and "Carrot Rope" are all aces

― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, August 6, 2008 10:44 PM (2 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

^^^ these are enough to spare TT from the "it just sucks" board - add "The Hexx" & you have a flat-out stunning EP

xp
lol. REM did kind of get shafted in the poll didn't they.

I lived in Athens in the late 90s so I kind of have to defend NMH. OTOH, Jeff Mangum dated my downstairs neighbor and backed his van into my car and left without leaving a note once, so fuck him for that.

I know people who would like to touch the hem of elephant rob's garment because of his hit-n-run mangum story

OTOH, Jeff Mangum dated my downstairs neighbor and backed his van into my car and left without leaving a note once, so fuck him for that.

loool

more like LLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLlllllllllllooooooooooooLLLLLLLLLLLLLLlooooooooooooLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

aerosmith lighten up, buddy, it's not good to talk about yrself in the third person.

oh no one actually cares about that Robyn song

― feel free to answer my Korn Kuestion (HI DERE)

This song was just a critical part of my 90s, as were the Spice Girls' "Wannabe" and "Say You'll Be There," and Ace of Base's "Don't Turn Around," "All That She Wants," and "I Saw the Sign." Some of these no doubt sound a bit silly when you play them today, but I played them endlessly at the time, and "Show Me Love" still has one of my favorite pop choruses of all time.

It is a great chorus.

sigh ilxor at the easy bait - jeff's a friend & the way people got all creepy let's-freak-a-dude-out worshipful is one of the saddest stories in all indieland

I don't "get" the worship/acclaim myself, really. On Avery Island is a great little fuzz-pop album but I think he went downhill with the over-earnest schtick on Aeroplane. I mean, it's a competent record, but...

Allmusic used to rate Aeroplane ** and Avery Island ***** but they've gone back and changed the ratings. The poor review of Aeroplane is still up though. It's pretty funny.

That Robyn song does have a great chorus, but it's not as good as the Robin S song of the same name AND it's not as good as any of Robyn's subsequent singles.

i'm confused, why is robyn's "show me love" being discussed now

"do you know what it takes" was deffo the better one imo...

anyway i was happy to see "fade into you" on their list thing but overall many of the choices confused me

even the review they gave for "gold soundz" for #1 is really bad (it's easily the least convincing description for the whole top 20 and it's #1!). They're just like, oh it's not particularly definitive for the 90s but it's pretty light and enjoyable, so yeah.

w/r/t the pop on the list: it's ridiculous there's no "...baby one more time"/"vogue"/"i want it that way"/"wannabe" present. i swear ...BOMT in particular had a huge amount of critical cred 10 yrs ago.

Madonna missing is weird, yeah, but Britney/Backstreet missing isn't weird at all; this IS still a Pitchfork list!

well they were all over "toxic" back in 2004.

lol at Pavement taking #1...

Really this is just as hilarious as it was last night when I first saw the list. I mean, if you just took Pavement down from #1 and swapped their entry with Biggie (#14), Nirvana (#13), Bjork (#11), MBV (#6) or Wu-Tang (#5), I think the top 20 would make a hell of a lot more sense. Pavement deserves to be in the top 20. All of those other folks would make fantastic #1 picks. But really, "Gold Soundz" is #1 of the decade?? O_O

― ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Friday, September 3, 2010 7:30 AM (6 hours ago) Bookmark

i think it's kind of charming. it's like pitchfork saying, "lol, no really, we're still pitchfork!" cute. maybe even read it as a bit tongue-in-cheek. a good look.

have we actually established that this was a manipulated outcome or are people reading a lot into this being the most liked ditty that made the shortlist?

well they were all over "toxic" back in 2004.

Britney in 2004 is not the same thing as Britney in 1999

Pavement was really the only band that could've topped the list--Nirvana's too obvious, My Bloody Valentine's too rote, Pulp's too British, Weezer too awful, and everything else too not rock.

They just picked the wrong song, is all.

Also, where Gold Soundz *really* fails as a number 1 choice, is when you hold it up to B.O.B. and God Only Knows--p4k's picks as the best songs of the 00's and 60's, respectively.

^^^
otm.

I would have also really liked to see a Ben Folds Five song make the list. I know it was like 15 years ago, but I'm pretty sure p4k gave the s/t a 9.6 when it first came out (because it was good, and still is). I know Ben Folds has travelled a similar path as Rivers Cuomo into truly embarrassing territories, but "Boxing" would've been a good pick for the 200-150 range.

that's a great point, the first two ben folds records walk a ton of shit that made the list

britney 1999 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> britney 2004 SORRY I HAD 2 SAY IT

i mean, clearly

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