"Maroon 5 is band you're going to be hearing a lot of for many years to come!"

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I actually kind of LIKE Third Eye Blind -- especially their first album (especially that one amazing single that sounded like Ian Hunter, "Losing My Whole Year"), but also that Badfinger/Boston sounding single on their second album. I don't think Maroon 5 are anywhere near as good, from what I've heard so far. I also don't think they're as good as Matchbox 20, come to think of it. Though it's entirely possible that I am losing my hack-pop open-mindedness in my old age (despite my admitted Skye Sweetnam fandom that is, and the fact that Anthony will be happy to know that I finally wound up liking that one Good Charlotte song that sounds like Blur's "Girls who like Boys who like Girls" song, whatever it/they is/are called.)

― chuck, Friday, 25 June 2004 14:58 (twenty-one years ago)

but not the "Don't Close Your Eyes" re-write? or the Social Distortion-style suicide/born again song? or the "Basket Case" re-write or the murder song? I'm glad you caught one great track but gawdamn there's sooo much more.

― CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 25 June 2004 15:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Thing is, I REALLY despise the guy's voice, Anthony, which is almost as thin as the rhythm section. I kinda like the little Def Lep type electro-fillgrees or whatever hear and there; I see what they're *trying* to do, and why you'd think I'd like them. I just don't. (Even the Blur ripoff is nowhere near as good as what it rips off...I dunno, maybe if some of those other songs had wacky videos with old people making out I'd like them more, too.) (Heck, maybe they DO have videos like that, and I've never seen 'em. I can't see everything!)

― chuck, Friday, 25 June 2004 15:06 (twenty-one years ago)

the rhythm section doesn't strike me as any more thin than Van Halen's but yeah the voice is probably the biggest stumbling block I can see.

Hey the Maroon 5 and the Hoobastank dudes have nasal little whines too!

― CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 25 June 2004 15:11 (twenty-one years ago)

hey, wait a sec, you dig AFI...goofy.

― CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 25 June 2004 15:14 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't dig AFI *that* much. But anyway, they remind me more of Bang Tango than Good Charlotte remind me of Kix, you know? (Though H.I.M. and Rock City Morgue and the Icarus Line and I forget who else remind me way more Bang Tango than AFI do, so I like of them way more too.)

― chuck, Friday, 25 June 2004 15:18 (twenty-one years ago)

the third maroon 5 single has the vocals pitch-corrected into unbearability.

― teeny (teeny), Saturday, 26 June 2004 12:23 (twenty-one years ago)

ok how can you tell when something is pitch-corrected? Complaints about that confuse me cuz I just don't know to how to hear it. It's like when people complain about guitars being "overcompressed." What are some good examples of this stuff?

― CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 26 June 2004 12:33 (twenty-one years ago)

An update from my friend Maya:

"me and maroon 5 are doing fine, btw. in fact, we're on good terms. i heard the song again this morning and it turns out it IS perverted. there's this part about an 18-year-old beauty queen, and how he wants to sneak into her back door. ok, maybe those aren't the exact lyrics, but i detected a distinct sliminess."

― chuck, Thursday, 1 July 2004 19:49 (twenty-one years ago)

More bands need to be rated on the level of their biological viscosity.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 1 July 2004 20:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Can we talk about the bit from the video to "This Love" where the frontman illustrates the words "goodbye" with the limpest wave goodbye in recorded history?

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 1 July 2004 20:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Dom, was it you that pointed out the "bye bye" thing in an earlier thread? I don't think I ever thanked you.

naughtiest lyric in "This Love"
My pressure on your hips
Sinking my fingertips
Into every inch of you
Cause I know that's what you want me to do

― CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 1 July 2004 20:49 (twenty-one years ago)

I heard N'sync's "bye bye bye" today while walking downtown and had to fight the urge to do the "one man clapping" flap in response.

― CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 1 July 2004 20:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Cause I know that's what you want me to do

I haven't heard a line that presumptious since Boys II Men's "I'll Make Love to You (...Like you Want me to)".

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 1 July 2004 20:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Ant- I dunno, I've been kinda captivated by Mr Maroon (what's his name? He looks like a Ryan or a Kyle) in this video, specifically by the fact that he appears to have no bone structure.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 1 July 2004 21:00 (twenty-one years ago)

I just remember somebody saying they stole the "bye bye" clap from the video. I didn't notice it at first because I was too busy reeling in horror from the bed-rumpus-with-flower-petals scene.

― CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 1 July 2004 21:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Maroon 5 try so hard.

― My name is Kenny (My name is Kenny), Thursday, 1 July 2004 21:21 (twenty-one years ago)

two months pass...

They're 3 for 3 so far!

― sundar subramanian (sundar), Friday, 3 September 2004 16:27 (twenty-one years ago)

So were Third Eye Blind. And where are they today?

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 3 September 2004 16:30 (twenty-one years ago)

In our hearts.

― sundar subramanian (sundar), Friday, 3 September 2004 16:30 (twenty-one years ago)

I was thinking another organ myself.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 3 September 2004 16:32 (twenty-one years ago)

"Maroon 5 is band you're going to be hearing a lot of for many years to come!"

I don't get it. Was this foreign version of VH-1?

― Alba (Alba), Friday, 3 September 2004 16:33 (twenty-one years ago)

They're 3 for 3 so far!
-- sundar subramanian (sundar_subramanian200...), September 3rd, 2004.

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So were Third Eye Blind. And where are they today?
-- Alex in NYC (vassife...), September 3rd, 2004.

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In our hearts.
-- sundar subramanian (sundar_subramanian200...), September 3rd, 2004.

and our cut-out bins.

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Friday, 3 September 2004 16:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Stephan Jenkins is currently deep inside of Vanessa Carlton and probably makes five figures a show, so I ain't gonna mock.

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 3 September 2004 16:36 (twenty-one years ago)

nuff respect guy! "This Love" makes a nice contrast to Lil Jon on my Winamp. i don't like the way the guitars were recorded, though that actually might count in Maroon 5's favor since i like the way Jet songs are recorded yet i hate Jet songs like i hate raccoons attacking my garbage bags the night before collection day.

― Dave M. (rotten03), Friday, 3 September 2004 17:21 (twenty-one years ago)

ok how can you tell when something is pitch-corrected?

Usually, when people say this they mean that the vocals have been over-processed with Auto-Tune, which is an effects plug-in that can be used within Pro Tools and other DAW (digital audio workstation) software.

Basically, Auto-Tune "listens" to the vocal for pitch variations, and will "correct" those variations based on user settings. Use it on a light setting on a singer who's generally got good pitch and it's barely noticeable - the vocal just blends better with the music.

However, the trend in production as of late is to over-crank the settings (which means fewer pitch fluctuations), even on skilled singers. This creates an artificial vibrato that is reminiscent of the old "vocoder" effect, and is VERY distracting once you've heard it a few times.

In dance music, and more recently in dancehall reggae, Auto-Tune is used as a special effect to create robotic pitch slurs a la Cher's "Believe".

For more info, check the manufacturer's site: http://www.antarestech.com/products/auto-tune4.html

― Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Friday, 3 September 2004 17:24 (twenty-one years ago)

That new song sounds like a jam band covering Coldplay. Also: you can kind of sing "With or Without You" over the final chorus.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 3 September 2004 17:32 (twenty-one years ago)

I'll leave it up to you to determine whether I think this is good or bad.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 3 September 2004 17:32 (twenty-one years ago)

jaymc otm

― gainfully employed (ex machina), Friday, 3 September 2004 17:54 (twenty-one years ago)

She Will Be Loved is a great song. I take back every bad thing I ever said about them, except of course that their first two songs still suck and hard.

― My name is Kenny (My name is Kenny), Friday, 3 September 2004 19:24 (twenty-one years ago)

I heard "Harder To Breathe" for the first time in a while the other day, it sounded really good.

― Al (sitcom), Friday, 3 September 2004 19:42 (twenty-one years ago)

I have to admit that this is one of those bands that I won't spend my money on, but will happily turn up the radio or tv for.

― Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Friday, 3 September 2004 19:54 (twenty-one years ago)

This creates an artificial vibrato that is reminiscent of the old "vocoder" effect, and is VERY distracting once you've heard it a few times.

VERY noticable in most Robbie Williams ballads where he needs to hold long notes.

― Siegbran (eofor), Friday, 3 September 2004 20:07 (twenty-one years ago)

I think you get that sort of effect in the intro to the Boredoms' song "Super Go!!!! → Shine in; Shine on" when Ey3 yells "SUPER GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO", but I believe it arrises from manual looping/delay + pitchshift.

― gainfully employed (ex machina), Friday, 3 September 2004 20:17 (twenty-one years ago)

When the lead singer hooks up with a hot girl in the first two of his band's videos == he's gay and/or has erect!le dysfunct!on disorder.

― Je4nne ƒury (Jeanne Fury), Friday, 3 September 2004 20:17 (twenty-one years ago)

erect!le dysfunct!on

Je4nne....are you worried about a sinister underground cabal of priapically challenged men coming to silence you for mocking their ERECTILE DYSFUNCTION? They way you typed it reminded me of the habit of typing Tom Cruise's faith as Sc*ent*logy (for fear of being googled by tenacious church-members with a grudge).

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 3 September 2004 20:49 (twenty-one years ago)

judging by his sex-crazed Blender interview, I'm guessing its pr!ap!sm.

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 3 September 2004 21:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Is Stevie Wonder any good? iTunes says he was a big influence on the M5 singer.

OK, I'm just being an arse now.

― sundar subramanian (sundar), Friday, 3 September 2004 21:47 (twenty-one years ago)

(Although, come to think of it, I haven't actually heard all that much Stevie Wonder. "I Just Called to Say I Love You" might be all I know. The M5 voice still reminds me a lot more of Sting than anyone else.)

― sundar subramanian (sundar), Friday, 3 September 2004 21:49 (twenty-one years ago)

it reminds me of the Black Crowes guy or Rob Thomas minus the donkey effect

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 3 September 2004 21:50 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm curious when I'm gonna get tired of how fuck crazy pop rock and rap are right now.

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 3 September 2004 21:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Really? Wasn't the BC guy more about the Southern drawl and less about the falsetto?

xpost: Is that Blender interview online?

― sundar subramanian (sundar), Friday, 3 September 2004 21:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Although, come to think of it, I haven't actually heard all that much Stevie Wonder.

Don't know your tastes, Sundar, but if you like 70s soul music at all, go get Songs In the Key Of Life. It's a mind-blower.

― Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Friday, 3 September 2004 21:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Really? Wasn't the BC guy more about the Southern drawl and less about the falsetto?

yeah but they both hop around and sound like they're gonna start scatting at any second.

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 3 September 2004 22:00 (twenty-one years ago)

I can't find that interview online but I'll post some quotes from it on this thread tomorrow.

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 3 September 2004 22:01 (twenty-one years ago)

I loved "She Will Be Loved" when an Australian Idol contestant covered it a month back, but Maroon 5's version is a bit of a let-down; the singer's slightly unpredictable vocals don't work so well on a "timeless" ballad as they do on the relatively neurotic "This Love".

The exact same thing happened with that Keane single (dunno what it's called, goes "Oh sympathy, where have you gone? etc etc blah).

When was "Harder To Breathe" released? It feels like it's been around for ever.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Saturday, 4 September 2004 08:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Who the hell are Maroon 5???

― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Sunday, 5 September 2004 15:49 (twenty-one years ago)

quotes from Blender's interview with Adam Levine of Maroon 5 (in their Summer 2004 Tour Preview article, June/July 2004 issue):

Blender: Why should we leave our air-conditioned mansions and come see your band open for John Mayer this summer?

Adam Levine: Because you'll get the most passionate, sincere, blistering, sweaty, sexual show you've ever seen in your life. We never want to appear aloof onstage - otherwise, it's not worth the price of the ticket.

Blender: Have you ever gotten lucky on the beach?

Adam Levine: No. I consider myself a really sexual person, but I like a bed, man. There's no sexier place to be than a sea of sheets, space to do whatever we want and no sand going up our asses. Give me space, give me wine, and give me Al Green. No distractions from the point to have amazing, beautiful, nasty sex.

Blender: Do you put ice cubes down your pants to cool off, or is that just us?

Adam Levine: That's just you. I don't ever want it to cool off down there. I'll lose my fire.

He also refers to buying a 19-pound bag of pot in Amsterdam and admits that his biggest fear is being attacked by a shark.

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 5 September 2004 16:05 (twenty-one years ago)

She Will Be Loved is a great song. I take back every bad thing I ever said about them, except of course that their first two songs still suck and hard.

what the fuck? That song is terrile, "This Love" is where it's at.

― Andrew Unterberger (Andrew Unterberger), Sunday, 5 September 2004 16:39 (twenty-one years ago)

anthony i kiss you for posting that. "i'll lose my fire" (!!!!)

― Dave M. (rotten03), Monday, 6 September 2004 16:17 (twenty-one years ago)

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