But, luckily, that is not the case. As evident on Q covers and elsewhere.
Btw. Q does write about hip-hop. All major hip-hop releases are reviewed and the biggest names are also featured in articles. Plus there are usually a couple of hip-hop albums in their year-end list, which is a fitting number considering hip-hop is just one out of hundreds of music genres.
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 09:35 (seventeen years ago) link
― Konal Doddz (blueski), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 09:36 (seventeen years ago) link
But, luckily, that is not the case.
― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 09:39 (seventeen years ago) link
― Konal Doddz (blueski), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 09:52 (seventeen years ago) link
― mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 10:04 (seventeen years ago) link
― mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 10:05 (seventeen years ago) link
― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 10:19 (seventeen years ago) link
It has also managed to start its own magazines, writing exclusively about hip-hop, and I guess hip-hop-fans are more likely to read those.
Besides, even though hip-hop may seem dominant in the singles list doesn't mean it is dominant within the entire population. Among kids, maybe (although not as dominant as it was a few years ago), but not among most people out of all ages.
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 10:45 (seventeen years ago) link
― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 10:47 (seventeen years ago) link
― mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 11:33 (seventeen years ago) link
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 23:27 (seventeen years ago) link
I gave it a flick through at a petrol station. Umm, fine but that's the relaunch version?
― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 5 October 2006 07:27 (seventeen years ago) link
― the classic sounds of the seventh of january 1998 (Enrique), Thursday, 5 October 2006 10:28 (seventeen years ago) link
― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 5 October 2006 10:38 (seventeen years ago) link
It does cover all kinds of popular music. Including hip-hop/R&B/techno/metal, just not to the same extent that more specialized genre magazines too.
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 5 October 2006 15:56 (seventeen years ago) link
I promise not to assume knowledge or ask the obvious question.
― Buffalo Stan (Buffalo Stan), Thursday, 5 October 2006 16:28 (seventeen years ago) link
I appear therefore to be Q's perfect target demographic. Unfortunately, I haven't bought it since 1996.
― Si.C@rter (SiC@rter), Thursday, 5 October 2006 17:47 (seventeen years ago) link
totally wrong ! have you seen this dreadful magazine this decade ?
Q is now aimed at casual 20somethings as it downshifted demographics as mojo now operates in the 30s/ 40s market. Q is aimed at mainstreamers who listen to virgin / radio 1 etc
q magazinehttp://www.emapadvertising.com/interactive/portfolio.asp?ID=12Audience profile:
18-34 year olds
― DJ Martian (djmartian), Thursday, 5 October 2006 18:29 (seventeen years ago) link
I loved this mag and bout every issue from 1989 to 2002. I really thought it was funny as a motherfucker, and printed stuff like a story on the narcorrido subset of tejano music, among hundreds of other cool shit. I often thought "man, I'd love to work for an American version of Q."
then Dennis Publishing comes along with an American version, called Blender, run by a Q alum (who incidentally, was editor of Q for almost as short a time as he was for Spin earlier this year). I got a job with Blender about a year after it launched.
the englishman referenced above cited those rules often— these amounted to the correct way to review music, and the fact that American pubs did not adhere to those rules was why American music pubs (and implicitly Americans) were, to use his terminology, "shit."
Of course, those rules were often ignored in his writing and in that of his english cronies, whom he invariably would let get away with bloody ax murder. In retrospect, I don't see that those rules affected the reviews that I read in Q.
As my hatred for this man intensified, I was no longer able to enjoy Q. But I gotta say that I think that for a long time, they've been stuck in Oasis/Blur/ this year's guitar band fronted by a pouty dude k-hole. perhaps its because 1995/Cool Britannia was the last time English people could feel as if they were on the vanguard of culture that the world was intrigued by. You could that Spice Girls were like that, but they, like a lot of subsequent phenoms, are not exactly the kinda stuff that I think Q feels they can fully endorse.
they do get very excited by hip-hop customized for their own culture, cf the Streets, Lady Sov and so on. but I can tell you as someone who has edited copy from a lot of Q contributors, those guys DO NOT GET, or are at least uncomfortable, with American hip-hop. those guys get guitar bands, dance msuic and goofy pop music that is part of their heritage.
is this defensive nativistism? I don't know.
― veronica moser (veronica moser), Thursday, 5 October 2006 19:53 (seventeen years ago) link
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 5 October 2006 22:44 (seventeen years ago) link
what I said is that when they try, it seems that english writers (again, this is both on based on raw copy and the finished product) don't seem to be able to adequately address hip-hop. many Americans wouldn't be able to address chanson or gamelan, but there isn't a huge effort to do so anyway. I'm curious: are you from the UK or US? you express yourself in a way that is very hard for me to place.
― veronica moser (veronica moser), Friday, 6 October 2006 02:28 (seventeen years ago) link
― mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 6 October 2006 07:14 (seventeen years ago) link
― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 6 October 2006 10:16 (seventeen years ago) link
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Friday, 6 October 2006 10:34 (seventeen years ago) link
(uh huh uh huh)
― The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 6 October 2006 10:36 (seventeen years ago) link
― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 6 October 2006 10:37 (seventeen years ago) link
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Friday, 6 October 2006 10:38 (seventeen years ago) link
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Friday, 6 October 2006 10:39 (seventeen years ago) link
― The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 6 October 2006 10:40 (seventeen years ago) link
-- Geir Hongro (geirhon...), March 18th, 2005.
― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 6 October 2006 10:41 (seventeen years ago) link
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Friday, 6 October 2006 10:43 (seventeen years ago) link
― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 6 October 2006 10:45 (seventeen years ago) link
― Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 6 October 2006 10:59 (seventeen years ago) link
― TS: Mick Ralphs v. Ariel Bender (Dada), Friday, 6 October 2006 10:59 (seventeen years ago) link
-- The Lex (alex.macpherso...), October 6th, 2006.
That wasn't you I saw bopping away to well-known black artists Christina Aguilera and Annie From Norway last night then? ;-)
― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 6 October 2006 11:02 (seventeen years ago) link
― Konal Doddz (blueski), Friday, 6 October 2006 11:03 (seventeen years ago) link
― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 6 October 2006 11:06 (seventeen years ago) link
Cut the dose, Marcello!
― King Esteban Records (ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!!), Friday, 6 October 2006 11:16 (seventeen years ago) link
-- Marcello Carlin (marcellocarli...), Today. (later) (link) (admin) (userip)
It's only fair to point out that the "Geir" post quoted above was not actually posted by Geir at all.
― Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 6 October 2006 11:21 (seventeen years ago) link
― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 6 October 2006 11:23 (seventeen years ago) link
― Sadly, he will be the next Alexis Petridish. (Dom Passantino), Friday, 6 October 2006 11:25 (seventeen years ago) link
― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 6 October 2006 11:26 (seventeen years ago) link
― mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 6 October 2006 13:27 (seventeen years ago) link
― veronica moser (veronica moser), Friday, 6 October 2006 15:17 (seventeen years ago) link
― Konal Doddz (blueski), Friday, 6 October 2006 15:22 (seventeen years ago) link
― Mike Giggler (Dada), Friday, 6 October 2006 15:24 (seventeen years ago) link
― Konal Doddz (blueski), Friday, 6 October 2006 15:40 (seventeen years ago) link
― Mike Giggler (Dada), Friday, 6 October 2006 15:46 (seventeen years ago) link
Wasn't that the original raison d'etre of Q, i.e a British version of Rolling Stone. Obviously didn't last long.
those guys DO NOT GET, or are at least uncomfortable, with American hip-hop
But their interpretation of hip-hop is just as valid as an American's take on brit-pop. Just becaused it seems 'wrong' to someone steeped in the culture doesn't mean they don't get it or it's wrong per-se.
― Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Friday, 6 October 2006 15:56 (seventeen years ago) link
― David A. (Davant), Friday, 6 October 2006 16:14 (seventeen years ago) link