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Also 1979 was a piece of terrible shit even in like 1996 when I was a fucking smashing pumpkins fan

buggin' out

My friend used to sing 1979 as

"ner ner nernerner TUNA FISH"

1979 is a jam, no doubt, but also bullet w butterfly wangs

Electric Relaxation

Both accurate re: atcq but rime was a bigger hit

electric relaxation is the only one fuckin w/ check the rhime but the latter def better captured the vibe better & the chorus was discernable

I would have went "scenario" tbh

^^^ plus yeah

I kinda love that Electric Relaxation has no discernible chorus..

There really isn't any reason to deny the awesomeness of scenario for real

i agree re: electric relaxation i mean its a goofy fun track for that reason but it also disqualifies it as coolest tribe track to me for some reason
scenario is awesome. but idk, for a one-track-per-artist list i totally get why it wd get a pass

btw was just watching 'the hip hop shop' ad on fuse @ my girls place & rakim says he likes drake. :-/ to end all :-/

check the rhime has my all-time fave tip verse "if knowledge is the key then just show me the lock"

it's basically impossible to pick just one best tribe song, all of the 7 or 8 top contenders are unimpeachable

really enjoying this list/writing/youtube searches, would bit-torr3nt these 200 songs

it's a damn good list, but i'm wondering what the big deal is. seems pitchfork-ish, though slightly more tilted towards dance/pop/rap/r&b inclusiveness than one might expect. but not enough to seem like a radical about-face in terms of editorial taste or anything.

what's the big deal about anything really

I never noticed before but they're right: 'Autumn Sweater' is an amazing makeout song.

do tell

The real gem for me in the whole Smashing Pumpkings catalogue is 1979's b-side 'set the ray to jerry'.

deej, the one guest rapper on rakim's last album was.......maino :-/

picking Check the Rhime = :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

wish they included emusic/insound links for these songs (or at least identify the album on which each song appears). tracking down the correct album can be a chore.

deej, the one guest rapper on rakim's last album was.......maino :-/

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thats not that bad really, i mean, at least no one is celebrating that dude for saving rap.

"Car" really changed the world forever, didn't it. "Kicked it in the Sun" #1?

Yeah, "1979" is definitely the Pumpkins song that non-Pumpkins fans like. I owned Siamese Dream like most white Midwestern 14-year-olds at the time, but I'd probably go with "1979," too, for the same reason I'd go with "Lost in the Supermarket" over anything else on London Calling.

Agree; "1979" is definitely Corgan's finest hour personally/creatively/commercially/blablabla. You can't really put you know "Apathy's Last Kiss" on there per Moka's post. Though it's my personal fave. "Glynis" is a nice haunter too; almost proto witch haus, right Scott? Pfft.

Well unless I accidentally included some artists who have already been on the list, I think I figured out who will be filling up 16 out of the 20 remaining slots on the list:

Notorious BIG
Wu Tang Clan
Nirvana
Pavement
My Bloody Valentine
Aphex Twin
Weezer
Radiohead
Neutral Milk Hotel
Dj Shadow
Daft Punk
Bjork
Beck
Talk Talk
Dr Dre
Belle And Sebastian

holy shit they picked Stardust

I love this list

and "Setting Sun"!!!!!!

wish "Unfinished Sympathy" was higher

jeez, when did Pitchfork turn into... me

In the spirit of overanalysis...

Joys:

"Everlong" -- as perfect a rock song as was released in the '90s.
The Pharcyde at #41 -- didn't think they might place!
"TROY" at #35 -- *eats shoe*

Disappointments:

No mention of PJ Harvey's post-Rid of Me material (her best).
"Unfinished Sympathy" at #44 -- there had better be some good shit ahead of this! I'd say it's top 20 material.
"The Private Psychedelic Reel" a notch below "Setting Sun" -- really?
"1979" being the Pumpkins' representative track -- LOL NOSTALGIA

Surprises:

GBV at #36 -- I thought these guys were going top ten!!
The Flaming Lips at #30 -- again, I thought they were "Pfork Canon" material and would place much higher. Wasn't The Soft Bulletin #3 on Pfork's previous '90s albums list? I think it was... oh well.
Spiritualized "Ladies and Gentlemen"... ELVIS VERSION!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!

They can't possibly chart Talk Talk that high on an individual song basis. I don't think you'll DJ Shadow on there either but maybe "Mutual Slump"?

i think they could chart 'after the flood' or 'new grass' but yeah i don't think it'd fit the spirit of the list so much

i would expect dj shadow though, building steam maybe

'midnight in a perfect world' seems like the obvi one

"Midnight" to me deviates from his personal style too much, I never liked it. It feels cribbed. I don't know, being picky.

they'll probably go 'in flux'

Before "Girls & Boys", Blur were seen as just another Britpop band, maybe a couple notches above Dodgy.

yeah, no.

God that's horrid. I think it's better to refrain from posting excerpts and stick to placement...

I think if they are going to include a Talk Talk song, it'll be "Ascension Day" and for DJ Shadow it'll be "Midnight in a Perfect World". This is because they were included in their Pitchfork 500 list from 2007: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Pitchfork_500 , which I think has been a pretty good indicator as to what songs would put into this list since I don't think the general attitudes to the 90s and the staff at Pitchfork has changed a lot in the past 2 or 3 years.

xp: I don't know that that's an unfair reading of Blur's profile in the US.

"Midnight" to me deviates from his personal style too much

This is pretty much what propelled "1979" to the list, though. I'd expect "Midnight" to place.

could still be a track from Violator to come, right? that was 1990?

also slowdive - alison

i don't get this list at all tbh

it's fine to be eclectic (i guess) but this just feels like two groups of people in mutual incomprehension, basically indietards + rap/dance heads

"Enjoy the Silence" in the top 20 would be mind-boggling to me (and Depeche Mode is one of my favorite bands)

"Enjoy the Silence" has to be in there, song was extramassive.

In re: Blur/US, nobody in the US knew what "Britpop" was, so, they couldn't well be seen as "just another Britpop band". Statement is a mess.

Yep. I don't think I've seen Depeche Mode on the list, so I'm pretty sure they will be in there.

Alison was already mentioned in the See Also for Spiritualized's "Ladies and Gentlemen We Are Floating in Space (Elvis Version)" at 23.

oh rats

it's probably my favorite rock song that hadn't placed yet

And mayne I said about the same [on hipinion], it's a disconnected series of impulses. Received wisdom V personal tastes V editorial bent V ret-conning the past such that it fits with/informs the present...

"Enjoy the Silence" in the top 20 would be mind-boggling to me (and Depeche Mode is one of my favorite bands)

WTF u talkin' bout, Depeche Mode has always been a lock for the top 20.

"it's a disconnected series of impulses"

this is sometimes also called life.