pitchfork

this is ridiculously funny

do you guys actually read pitchfork

I just scroll down threads made about it

I read this list because ppl were talking about it

Then apparently I gave Whiney an aneurysm by making a hyperbolic unprovable assertion

Not to, you know, actually engage with your question, Whiney (especially since you took your ball and went home), but... To me, this list has been about clearing away a lot of the critical detritus from the 90's and calling out the stuff that actually resonated/resonates that didn't get magazine play back then. So you get "Your Woman," "Steal My Sunshine," "Lovefool," "Freedom '90" and other pop moments that haven't gotten a lot of critical play; you get all the indie touchstones, naturally; and you get the most lasting rap moments of the 90's (I'm expecting "Passin' Me By" and "Mind Playin' Tricks on Me" and "T.R.O.Y." in the top 50, for example.)

The problem with "Brothers Gonna Work it Out" is that it fits more in the overlooked gems catagory than the rap classics catagory (cuz there are a handful of PE songs ahead of it there.) But in terms of p4k's overall narrative, it seems pretty reasonable to me.

Not to, you know, actually engage with your question, Whiney (especially since you took your ball and went home)

haha no he didn't!

http://www.anthonyfernando.com/uploads/Image/PositiveThinking.jpg

btw I was the one who said "they like it best" so I would like my full credit for being smug and not paying attention

"but if you can't see the types of things that these type of ppl stump for changing over time, i honestly don't think you're paying attention, duderoo"

dude seriously it makes it very hard to engage you on this topic when you're essentially calling me "these type of ppl"

well, i just just mean pfk ppl. All writers—self included—are wittingly or unwittingly part of some narrative, whether it be Stylus, Spin, Pazz and Jop or the Hype Machine. I just want to better understand why the pfk narrative has evolved into what it has.

it's the inevitable consequence of eclecticism.

xpost

Seems like you already know though. New writers come in, read the old stuff, and go "not this but this." The site is having an ongoing conversation with itself, and with other publications.

Also what he said.

The site is having an ongoing conversation with itself, and with other publications.

i basically said this upthread and ppl went NUH UH

also i dunno man a lot of the dance and rap blurbs have been written by people i would not in a million years consider experts in the field.

not to uh denigrate my peers or anything

well, i'm not gonna shit on any of the writers, but i can def say the dance/rap picks look a way more up on their game and less indie-rock "token-choice" than they would have in 2004.

"T.R.O.Y." in the top 50

This is definitely NOT gonna happen (sadly) and if it does I'll eat my fucking shoe.

oh well yeah i'm not gonna argue THAT either. xpost.

which radiohead track will be top 5

I heard sugar rays fly yesterday and sang along w/ it

which radiohead track will be top 5

I'm assuming "Paranoid Android"

"T.R.O.Y." in the top 50

This is definitely NOT gonna happen (sadly) and if it does I'll eat my fucking shoe.

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lol what? troy is a fucking lock.
also jordan i think this is how we do it will be in it w/ no diggity as the two big r&b ranked tracks?

No TROY would be a damn shame.

I'm going to go ahead and call a Radiohead lower than expected shocker.

Wasn't "This Is How We Do It" listed as a "see also" track to something?

lol what? troy is a fucking lock.

I'd be surprised if Public Enemy dropped at #51 and Pete Rock/CL Smooth made it ahead of them, but I'm certainly happy to be proven wrong. Either way... Public Enemy is TOO LOW!

yeah, to "Poison" at #86

strange thread

The site is having an ongoing conversation with itself, and with other publications.

i basically said this upthread and ppl went NUH UH

Well, that probably has more to do with you being the one that said it. Fwiw, I think you're totally spot on.

Anyway, I tend to look at music lists as "check this out first"s more than as "this is best"s, and then "if you like it, take it and run with it." 99.9% of p4ks audience are going to be unfamiliar with most of those songs, and they're going to read this list and have a ton of awesome new directions to run in with their music collections. Which is why the one song per artist rule and the see also sections are awesome. I think p4k is doing an amazing job of facilitating other people's curiosity.

I'm assuming "Paranoid Android"

"Karma Police" has a (very tiny) chance at placing instead, I'd say.

Public Enemy's 80's singles just have a huge edge over their 90's singles.

"Tubthumping" better win this

also loool @ jay-z/jaymc

Enjoy the silence & pictures of you I think might qualify for this

And see also: ordinary world

The real question is, will they choose One in a million or Are you that somebody?

Ice cream got fuckin robbed.. shoulda been top 20 imo

Ice Cream-->Got Your Money-->Daytona 500-->something off 36 Chambers-->seems like a pretty solid Wu-progression to me

Bring The Pain, doy

I'll tell ya who wuz/will be robbed: Busta!

Probably cream but they might choose shame on a nuh

Bring da Ruckus and Protect Ya Neck also legit choices

In other words: Damn.

any guesses for mbv? they're not really "hit single" kind of guys.

"Soon." And I'm gonna guess it'll be top 5.

everyone forgets "to here knows when" was a single u_u

wu track in the top 50 has to be either cream or triumph doesn't it? anything else is kinda challops

Wasn't "This Is How We Do It" listed as a "see also" track to something?

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yep

who gets the highest track: pavement or biggie

thkw? i was thinking only shallow, at least. i'd puke if they pulled up 'sometimes', even tho i enjoy the song immensely. only for reason of it being in lost in translation and thus the new baby of adoring indie girls worldwide.

fuck biggie, pavement's got it cinched.

everyone forgets "to here knows when" was a single u_u

I think I'd pick "Only Shallow", personally