awwwter
― markers, Tuesday, 31 August 2010 21:23 (thirteen years ago) link
Would that make this one an AAAAHHHHH!!-tter?
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_JpJR_J-5GyQ/SoRAoKfe31I/AAAAAAAADiE/f3SvC9XFW9w/s400/mean+otter.jpg
― ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Tuesday, 31 August 2010 21:36 (thirteen years ago) link
hahaha
― markers, Tuesday, 31 August 2010 21:41 (thirteen years ago) link
and then i walked back to my apartment in bushwick over the bridge and someone sent me an email that had a link to a thread on a music message board about my Lil Wayne tattoo and at first i couldn’t bear to read it because why would people be anything other than mean about stuff on the internet. but then i couldn’t stop myself and i clicked it and read some of the entries and as i walked into Brooklyn off the bridge i got a 50 cent bag of pretzels from a deli and put on Casimir Pulaski Day by Sufjan Stevens on my iPod and sat on the curb outside the deli crying and picking the pieces of salt off the pretzels because i don’t want to eat that much salt because it is bad for your heart and makes you feel bloatedso to people who wrote nasty things about my tattoo or blog on the internet, i want to give you the same opportunity for schadenfreude that danny moving home gave me and i hope you got what you wanted out of writing what you wrote. i am not saying this so you will feel bad for me, i am beyond aware that there are greater tragedies to feel bad about than some kid getting upset about stuff some random people wrote about him on the internet and i will get over it hopefully by the end of the weekbut you should also know that if you think the mean things you write about people on the internet would not bother them or have any impact on them because a certain amount of people read their blog or listen to their band or read their book or watch the films they direct, i want you to think about how vividly you remember the mean things people have said about you versus how vividly you remember the nice things, and how much those have affected you and lingered in your consciousness relative to one anotherand it is also worth considering the next time you are tempted to write “____ is the worst band on earth, they have the worst lyrics and the music makes me want to vomit and their ideas are retarded and i hate them” or something in that vein. and i know i write criticism criticism and sometimes it has to be negative but i am doing my best to be civil about it and i recognize that some pitchfork writer’s bad idea or set of bad ideas does not make them a bad writer or an idiot. i also have written mean stuff about people on the internet in my day, but i am not doing that anymore because i want to be proud of how i live and the things i do and say, and the times i wrote mean stuff about people on the internet have not been moments i can look back on and be proud ofand i know this blog has had whatever exposure and everyone tells me to grow a thicker skin because some people are bound to hate it and some of it is corny, but in the way that i couldn’t just not feel bad about my friend sleeping with my girlfriend, i can’t just be like “i will decide to not let this message board bother me and then it won’t bother me” and if you can do that you are probably a monk with crazy mind control, and if you act like the people you are writing about can do that you are living in an emotional internet fantasy world. i also know that admitting a message board made me cry is embarrassing but i can’t imagine i was anyone’s model of stoic masculinity before this post anyway so there’s no great loss in that i thinkso anyway i don’t want PRR to be a sad blog but some days you just feel sad and you can’t just command yourself to be happy, so hopefully tomorrow will be better than today and this blog will reflect that too, i hope you understand
so to people who wrote nasty things about my tattoo or blog on the internet, i want to give you the same opportunity for schadenfreude that danny moving home gave me and i hope you got what you wanted out of writing what you wrote. i am not saying this so you will feel bad for me, i am beyond aware that there are greater tragedies to feel bad about than some kid getting upset about stuff some random people wrote about him on the internet and i will get over it hopefully by the end of the week
but you should also know that if you think the mean things you write about people on the internet would not bother them or have any impact on them because a certain amount of people read their blog or listen to their band or read their book or watch the films they direct, i want you to think about how vividly you remember the mean things people have said about you versus how vividly you remember the nice things, and how much those have affected you and lingered in your consciousness relative to one another
and it is also worth considering the next time you are tempted to write “____ is the worst band on earth, they have the worst lyrics and the music makes me want to vomit and their ideas are retarded and i hate them” or something in that vein. and i know i write criticism criticism and sometimes it has to be negative but i am doing my best to be civil about it and i recognize that some pitchfork writer’s bad idea or set of bad ideas does not make them a bad writer or an idiot. i also have written mean stuff about people on the internet in my day, but i am not doing that anymore because i want to be proud of how i live and the things i do and say, and the times i wrote mean stuff about people on the internet have not been moments i can look back on and be proud of
and i know this blog has had whatever exposure and everyone tells me to grow a thicker skin because some people are bound to hate it and some of it is corny, but in the way that i couldn’t just not feel bad about my friend sleeping with my girlfriend, i can’t just be like “i will decide to not let this message board bother me and then it won’t bother me” and if you can do that you are probably a monk with crazy mind control, and if you act like the people you are writing about can do that you are living in an emotional internet fantasy world. i also know that admitting a message board made me cry is embarrassing but i can’t imagine i was anyone’s model of stoic masculinity before this post anyway so there’s no great loss in that i think
so anyway i don’t want PRR to be a sad blog but some days you just feel sad and you can’t just command yourself to be happy, so hopefully tomorrow will be better than today and this blog will reflect that too, i hope you understand
― markers, Thursday, 2 September 2010 05:03 (thirteen years ago) link
:-( :-( :-( :-(
― markers, Thursday, 2 September 2010 05:05 (thirteen years ago) link
So the question is... is he referring to ILX?
― ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Thursday, 2 September 2010 05:10 (thirteen years ago) link
prob yes
― "bubbling" pictures for mormon approved j0hn (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 2 September 2010 05:11 (thirteen years ago) link
hmm well ilx is in the top 10 results for the search "pitchfork reviews reviews" lil wayne
― do you know sixty (electricsound), Thursday, 2 September 2010 05:12 (thirteen years ago) link
poor kid
― max, Thursday, 2 September 2010 05:12 (thirteen years ago) link
that tattoo is awesome btw imo
― "bubbling" pictures for mormon approved j0hn (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 2 September 2010 05:13 (thirteen years ago) link
Yep, I like the tattoo!
― ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Thursday, 2 September 2010 05:15 (thirteen years ago) link
We really didn't make fun of the tattoo at all, it turned into an Ott-fest instead.
my response was pretty much smh, dude's gonna regret this tbh
― markers, Thursday, 2 September 2010 05:16 (thirteen years ago) link
inspired me to get BURR inside my own lip
― "bubbling" pictures for mormon approved j0hn (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 2 September 2010 05:17 (thirteen years ago) link
huge bummer if this is the thread he's referring to
― markers, Thursday, 2 September 2010 05:18 (thirteen years ago) link
which it probably is
― markers, Thursday, 2 September 2010 05:19 (thirteen years ago) link
kid is the best damn music writer i have read in ages and i am crazy crazy jealous, like knowing what truman capote was up to his teens & 20s level jealous. just for the record.
― a dystopian society awaits if we continue on this path. (contenderizer), Thursday, 2 September 2010 05:21 (thirteen years ago) link
^ primarily why i have refrained from saying anything about him up to this point
how old is he?
― max, Thursday, 2 September 2010 05:23 (thirteen years ago) link
your age i think
― "bubbling" pictures for mormon approved j0hn (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 2 September 2010 05:23 (thirteen years ago) link
i think he's like 22?
― markers, Thursday, 2 September 2010 05:23 (thirteen years ago) link
i might've just made that up
― markers, Thursday, 2 September 2010 05:24 (thirteen years ago) link
he's a little older than that i think
― "bubbling" pictures for mormon approved j0hn (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 2 September 2010 05:24 (thirteen years ago) link
he thinks a lot
― max, Thursday, 2 September 2010 05:24 (thirteen years ago) link
truman capote?
― ('_') (omar little), Thursday, 2 September 2010 05:24 (thirteen years ago) link
not "too much" necessarily but
maybe he should think... less
contenderizer = truman catrolly
― "bubbling" pictures for mormon approved j0hn (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 2 September 2010 05:25 (thirteen years ago) link
reading the part I quoted above was really, really depressing -- like, I don't want my stupid, tossed-off shit on ILX to hurt some super sincere kid
― markers, Thursday, 2 September 2010 05:27 (thirteen years ago) link
ksh, you should know that super sincere kids that have been abused by stupid, tossed-off shit on ilx are more likely to be offenders themselves
it's not your fault
― "bubbling" pictures for mormon approved j0hn (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 2 September 2010 05:29 (thirteen years ago) link
markers, is def a better man than I
― miccio kurihara (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 2 September 2010 05:30 (thirteen years ago) link
i dunno. he talks about reading michael moore's stupid white men at age 14, and that came out in 2002, so 22 max, probably less than that
― a dystopian society awaits if we continue on this path. (contenderizer), Thursday, 2 September 2010 05:30 (thirteen years ago) link
Sarge, I'm gonna assume yr kidding
― markers, Thursday, 2 September 2010 05:31 (thirteen years ago) link
he reminds me of a more earnest burt_stanton sometimes
― max, Thursday, 2 September 2010 05:31 (thirteen years ago) link
i was making a child abuse joke
― "bubbling" pictures for mormon approved j0hn (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 2 September 2010 05:32 (thirteen years ago) link
everything i've learned i know from law and order: svu
― "bubbling" pictures for mormon approved j0hn (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 2 September 2010 05:33 (thirteen years ago) link
"show me where the anonymous commenter touched you"
― miccio kurihara (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 2 September 2010 05:34 (thirteen years ago) link
i am not even trolling at all, j0rdan. i just really like reading his writing, in all sincerity. have been meaning to say that since reading lil wayne post, like what, two days ago? but did not, so i will say it now in the wake of grievous internet-based emotional traumas. kid is a good writer.
― a dystopian society awaits if we continue on this path. (contenderizer), Thursday, 2 September 2010 05:34 (thirteen years ago) link
no
― miccio kurihara (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 2 September 2010 05:35 (thirteen years ago) link
but yes. and he's got nothing in common w burt fucking stanton. level of sincerity, insight, writing chops and real-life sense construction i honestly admire.
like if this "internet project" were just a screen for a novel, it would a good novel and i would want to read it.
― a dystopian society awaits if we continue on this path. (contenderizer), Thursday, 2 September 2010 05:38 (thirteen years ago) link
its not "burt fucking stanton" its "burt_stanton" and i wasnt comparing their sincerity or whatever i was comparing their anxiety disorders
― max, Thursday, 2 September 2010 05:40 (thirteen years ago) link
stand corrected
― a dystopian society awaits if we continue on this path. (contenderizer), Thursday, 2 September 2010 05:42 (thirteen years ago) link
― max,
― "bubbling" pictures for mormon approved j0hn (J0rdan S.)
lol
― buzza, Thursday, 2 September 2010 05:47 (thirteen years ago) link
idk i wasn't zingin or anything \(o_O)/
i could've said my age
― "bubbling" pictures for mormon approved j0hn (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 2 September 2010 05:49 (thirteen years ago) link
i would love to see this kid write a book report on finnegan's wake
― ('_') (omar little), Thursday, 2 September 2010 05:49 (thirteen years ago) link
he is max years old
― the embrace of waka flocka is v pertinent (deej), Thursday, 2 September 2010 05:57 (thirteen years ago) link
writing chops and real-life sense construction
I like reading his stuff too, but no way, man.
― Brad Nelson (BradNelson), Thursday, 2 September 2010 07:54 (thirteen years ago) link
I mean, he writes horrible fucking sentences. They are energetic, unconscious paragraphs, which are fun to read (because his enthusiasm and earnestness are so wholly on display) but are still arranged like shit.
― Brad Nelson (BradNelson), Thursday, 2 September 2010 08:01 (thirteen years ago) link
kid is the best damn music writer i have read in ages and i am crazy crazy jealous, like knowing what truman capote was up to his teens & 20s level jealous. just for the record.― a dystopian society awaits if we continue on this path. (contenderizer), Thursday, September 2, 2010 6:21 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark
― a dystopian society awaits if we continue on this path. (contenderizer), Thursday, September 2, 2010 6:21 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark
ok i was gonna post 'lol' here but then
i am not even trolling at all, j0rdan. i just really like reading his writing, in all sincerity. have been meaning to say that since reading lil wayne post, like what, two days ago? but did not, so i will say it now in the wake of grievous internet-based emotional traumas. kid is a good writer.― a dystopian society awaits if we continue on this path. (contenderizer), Thursday, September 2, 2010 6:34 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark
― a dystopian society awaits if we continue on this path. (contenderizer), Thursday, September 2, 2010 6:34 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark
WTF
i generally think you have pretty bad judgement but this...
― i am legernd (history mayne), Thursday, 2 September 2010 08:10 (thirteen years ago) link
― ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Thursday, September 2, 2010 5:10 AM (2 hours ago)
thing is tho the prr dude thinks people are calling him out even when they're not sometimes? (there was a bit on t ewing's tumblr recently where he sent in a qn that was like 'that one time you talked about people who find this thing confusing did you secretly mean me?? tell me, i can take it!') and so maybe it sounds callous or w/e but i don't see any way he could have not been hurt by just being talked about, he seems like a person who's guaranteed to take any negative comment hard. the thing is that his touchiness is part of the same sensitivity that makes him so worth reading, the hyper-attention to nuance, the filter on his thoughts that doesn't quite work as you'd expect, the sincerity and straightforwardness.
also i know this sounds appallingly callous but... that's such a good description of the confused angry/ashamed when you let yrself get upset by meanness on the internet, i am spending rather more time thinking 'oh, evocative' and rather less going 'oh, poor guy'.
― czyczyczyczy comparative (c sharp major), Thursday, 2 September 2010 08:24 (thirteen years ago) link