kate nash looks kind of girlish.
― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Monday, 16 July 2007 15:27 (eighteen years ago)
she is a girl
― lex pretend, Monday, 16 July 2007 15:28 (eighteen years ago)
lex, this song has extremely noticeable distortion guitar. how has it passed the censor's scissors?
actually, it's a lot better than quite a lot of the chart singles i've heard recently. nice keyboard work, decent tune, the occasionally interesting vocal sample, and the aforementioned guitar. not bad!
actually, i was complemented by a man from the distributing company for my Rapture review. i have to say, the song was a heck of a lot better than I expected, and my review reflected my enthusiasm.
― Just got offed, Monday, 16 July 2007 15:28 (eighteen years ago)
http://www.stylusmagazine.com/reviews/the-rapture/pieces-of-the-people-we-love.htm
― Scik Mouthy, Monday, 16 July 2007 15:29 (eighteen years ago)
maybe R Kelly and Usher can be #1 - it's probably not out until 2009 but the video is quite funny. song is quite bad tho, makes you wish they were just having an actual argument, swearing etc.
― blueski, Monday, 16 July 2007 15:29 (eighteen years ago)
meanwhile i'll never understand how the same people who would take me to task for not having heard obscure old music, will proudly boast not only that they haven't heard the biggest current radio hit around, but that they're not interested because modern pop music simply isn't good enough for them any more
i mean, it's not as if i listen to radio ever, but do you not have the slightest curiosity about what the new single from a woman with a proven track record of great singles sounds like?
― lex pretend, Monday, 16 July 2007 15:31 (eighteen years ago)
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: "Mark WILD" <m✧✧✧@wild✧✧✧.c✧✧> To: "'A.J. Mill'" <sa✧✧✧.m✧✧✧@cur1✧✧✧.c✧.u✧> Subject: FW: check this out Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 11:38:45 -0000
We liked this reaction to The Rapture. Kudos to whoever wrote it!
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From: Kr1st3r Gr33r [mailto:kris✧✧✧@wild✧✧✧.c✧✧] Sent: 14 March 2007 15:45 To: D4v1d B4rcl4y; M4rk W0rk W41nwr1ght; D4v3 R0b3rts Subject: check this out
Look at this reaction from one of the student radio stations to the new Rapture single:
The digitised, skeletal percussion that opens 'People Of The Pieces They Love' provides the framework for a magnificently minimal four minutes' worth of electronic pop. With vocals that don't ostentatiously slather themselves all over the song, the synth textures are allowed to dominate, and this is where it becomes apparent that unlike most charting disco-pop bands. The Rapture actually put some sort of an effort in creating a subliminally enjoyable experience, a subtle and nuanced creation that relies as much on the modulation of tone as the sexuality of its lead singer. Not to say that the song doesn't have any immediacy to it; far from intellectualising the whole process into soulless beat-making the Rapture start POTPWL with the simplest of three-note baselines, gradually adding short, unobtrusive guitar samples, backing vocal chants and wobbling synth lines until the vibrating tension reaches an apex and the live drums can kick in, again without massive fanfare but pungently enough to raise the track another level. The bassline throws a couple of curveballs, the synths fragment into a brief outro, and the song ends without fuss. The Rapture, on the strength of this song, aren't here to sloganeer or jump on any passing fad, they're here to give us music that we'll enjoy, music that bears repeating, and above all music that does all the right things. 5 out of 5. CUR, CAMBRIDGE
*bask*
― Just got offed, Monday, 16 July 2007 15:33 (eighteen years ago)
Not really, Alex, because my tastes at the moment are diverged massively from chart pop / r'n'b, and with no direct interface with chart pop I've no motivation to keep up for the sake of keeping up. I've abandoned the semi-journalistic impulse to know EVERYTHING that's going on, and instead I'm just investigating deeper the kinds of things I'm already interested in.
― Scik Mouthy, Monday, 16 July 2007 15:36 (eighteen years ago)
Also Louis totally beware of PR people 'praising' you. Just, y'know. Watch out.
― Scik Mouthy, Monday, 16 July 2007 15:37 (eighteen years ago)
Also Louis if you like that you'll LOVE the !!! album.=, which is like The Rapture's last album stretched out on psychedelics.
― Scik Mouthy, Monday, 16 July 2007 15:38 (eighteen years ago)
thanks for the tip...but what are these dangers you speak of?
― Just got offed, Monday, 16 July 2007 15:40 (eighteen years ago)
is the danger that thoughtless praise will be received well but an intelligent criticism will be rejected by PR companies?
You are joking, I hope.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 16 July 2007 15:41 (eighteen years ago)
Well, there is that, but I was thinking more that they'd start hawking all types of untold shit at you in the hope that it's up your street, like 13 Senses' PR woman keeps pestering me just because they supported Embrace once.
― Scik Mouthy, Monday, 16 July 2007 15:42 (eighteen years ago)
?
just seeking a bit of clarification, that's all. apologies if i don't quite live up to your vast cranial intensity.
xpost to he of little patience
― Just got offed, Monday, 16 July 2007 15:45 (eighteen years ago)
I've abandoned the semi-journalistic impulse to know EVERYTHING that's going on, and instead I'm just investigating deeper the kinds of things I'm already interested in
i can kind of understand this, because i pass over a mass of stuff without listening too, but i would be a bit afraid of my tastes settling into a rut then.
never ever give your phone number to PRs if you can help it.
― lex pretend, Monday, 16 July 2007 15:46 (eighteen years ago)
but i would be a bit afraid of my tastes settling into a rut then
But Lex, don't you have a fairly well-established set of sonic preferences? (I'm not saying this is bad, I have mine after all.)
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 16 July 2007 15:48 (eighteen years ago)
Ahem.
― Scik Mouthy, Monday, 16 July 2007 15:49 (eighteen years ago)
everybody has them
― blueski, Monday, 16 July 2007 15:50 (eighteen years ago)
Hurrah for us.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 16 July 2007 15:51 (eighteen years ago)
even i've heard 'umbrella'.
― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Monday, 16 July 2007 15:54 (eighteen years ago)
Yeah but I live in the sticks, innit.
― Scik Mouthy, Monday, 16 July 2007 15:56 (eighteen years ago)
me too holmes
― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Monday, 16 July 2007 15:56 (eighteen years ago)
Not THAT far out, though?
― Scik Mouthy, Monday, 16 July 2007 15:57 (eighteen years ago)
naw. but you are probably closer to barbados than i am.
― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Monday, 16 July 2007 15:58 (eighteen years ago)
And New York.
― Scik Mouthy, Monday, 16 July 2007 15:59 (eighteen years ago)
quitney's home and uni locations are the exact reverse of mine AFAIK
― Just got offed, Monday, 16 July 2007 16:03 (eighteen years ago)
it's complicated.
― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Monday, 16 July 2007 16:21 (eighteen years ago)
if you're undecided about killing yourself, the comments box here should help you:
http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/music/2007/07/why_i_still_love_rihannas_umbr.html
― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Monday, 16 July 2007 22:25 (eighteen years ago)
Though the one YouTube link at the end there to "We Need a Resolution" was highly welcome.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 16 July 2007 22:27 (eighteen years ago)
Dorian looks very different to how i imagined - younger and snazzier
― blueski, Monday, 16 July 2007 22:30 (eighteen years ago)
who could be embarrassed by 'umbrella'? "this country".
― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Monday, 16 July 2007 22:47 (eighteen years ago)
i'm glad 'they' failed to get Oasis 'Roll With It' to #1. people are now trying it with the Spice Girls 'Stop' so i heard the other week.
it's nearly 20 years since 'Anitina (The First Time I See She Dance)' was #1 - maybe we can all download that back to the top spot
― blueski, Monday, 16 July 2007 22:54 (eighteen years ago)
Hahaha. Nice.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 16 July 2007 22:59 (eighteen years ago)
the top ten of ten years ago vs this week's:
1. Puff Daddy And Faith Evans - I'll Be Missing You - never liked it for reasons that should be obvious (to all but the lex maybe) - certainly not as good as 'Umbrella'
2. Oasis - D'You Know What I Mean? thing is i often do quite like big stupid epic rocky crap - this is mid-table in Oasis song league - NWA/Amen Brother drum sample = can't really hear it so whatever but it's more about the psychey guitars at the end - but probably not as good as 'Big Girls Don't Cry'
3. Gala - Freed From Desire great tune, especially the definitive remix version by Mr Jack (who became Junior Jack according to discogs!) which is the epitomy of 1997 house music made in America (or so it sounds) for Ibiza. much much better than 'Foundations'
4. Coolio Featuring 40 Thevz - C U When U Get There kinda cute and fun enough but what was the point of '40 Thevz'? OK but not as good as 'The Way I Are' is it
5. Ultra Nate - Free if there was a more ambient mix where the guitar licks and strings just carried on for ages without the beat or vocals i'd like that. perhaps controversially i prefer the Arctic Monkeys single tho it's v close call.
6. Sash! Featuring Rodriguez - Ecuador nothing to his debut single but still better than an Avril ballad, just
7. The Seahorses - Blinded By The Sun HATE TEHM DESTROOOY (i heard 'Love Is The Law' for the first time this decade the other week), landslide win for NRQ and his ping pongs
8. Robbie Williams - Lazy Days one of his best singles, better than 'Worried About Ray' if only because that song features the term 'tippy-toes'
9. Michael Jackson - History/Ghosts not all that bad - comes down to whether you find Jacko scarier than the 'Teenagers' MCR whine about. MJ wins on penalties.
10. Changing Faces - G.H.E.T.T.O.U.T. best title ever - very R Kels, the template hasn't really moved on in ten years or maybe this was just a little ahead of its time. just as sullen as emo Nats but slinkier and poutier ftw.
1997: 5 (snatching a draw from the jaws of defeat) 2007: 5 (a better top 5 than 97's but let down by the rest)
― blueski, Monday, 16 July 2007 23:22 (eighteen years ago)
can we talk about "beautiful girls," the one with that 'SUICIDAL, SUICIDAL' chorus? it is on the radio a million fucking times a day, and it is SO DISGUSTING. i mean, i'm in a bus with my campers (yes, i'm a camp counselor LOL) and these 8 year olds know all the words to this song, going, 'suicidal, suicidal' and i just have no fucking idea how to tell them that it isn't really...well, suicide shouldn't be catchy? why do i object to it so much, other than its crassness?
― the table is the table, Monday, 16 July 2007 23:27 (eighteen years ago)
it is well-produced, and has some nice weirdo doo-wop infuences that are sort of sweet. but...
― the table is the table, Monday, 16 July 2007 23:29 (eighteen years ago)
You'd have loved when "Theme from MASH" was number one, then.
― Mark G, Monday, 16 July 2007 23:33 (eighteen years ago)
was gonna say. i think i remember asking someone (my mum maybe) what suicide meant.
― blueski, Monday, 16 July 2007 23:34 (eighteen years ago)
I still expect Mr Lynskey to look like this; http://www.woodland-trust.org.uk/celebrities/images/ljoseph.jpg
― Scik Mouthy, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 06:24 (eighteen years ago)
It seems downloading has caused the charts to go slower. For some reason, people seem to wait longer before they download a song than before they buy the single.
Of course, the unnaturally fast UK charts of a few years ago were a result of this stupid policy to let singles cost less in their first week than in the rest of its life, meaning a single's highest chart position would usually be an indication of how well people liked the previous hit from the same act.
― Geir Hongro, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 07:55 (eighteen years ago)
Yes, but that was to make the record 'ship' faster.
If all the sales happen in one week, the distribution of the single would happen once only.
Now, it's back to how stuff'd move around the chart, like the sixties, almost!
― Mark G, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 08:04 (eighteen years ago)
I think it's a good thing. The fast turnover of the late 90s was pointless, and gave very little space for the better songs, which would usually develop over time rather than race into the charts in their first week.
― Geir Hongro, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 08:16 (eighteen years ago)
--
that can't be right can it? i'm prepared to believe it but it can't be 'right' right?
― pisces, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 09:42 (eighteen years ago)
i think southall and matt dc are kind of right. umbrella is a good song, very good but it doesn't seem like a 9 week smash. it doesn't seem to have the all ages appeal of the likes of "crazy" or "i don't feel like dancing", the stuff that straddles radios 1 and 2. it's definitely in the blockbuster bracket of "sexyback" and "maneater" but neither of them spent so long at number one. i guess you'd have to see the sales figures but it's hard to know if it's the song itself or just paucity of competition that's giving it such a long run. if it's the song itself i guess that the big selling point is that it sort of combines the attributes of a "banger" and a "ballad" but by that reasoning “my love” would have been number one for nine weeks. possibly.
― acrobat, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 10:02 (eighteen years ago)
How am I right?! My entire contribution is along the lines of "not heard it, more into postrock than chartpop"?!
― Scik Mouthy, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 10:03 (eighteen years ago)
you are right in that it's very easy not to be aware of its existence.
― acrobat, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 10:06 (eighteen years ago)
Aha.
― Scik Mouthy, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 10:21 (eighteen years ago)
well it would be be if you preferred postrock to chartpop but otherwise waht
but by that reasoning “my love” would have been number one for nine weeks. possibly.
second single off released album, not released in Summer iirc, nowhere near as 'epic' sounding as 'Umbrella'.
― blueski, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 10:34 (eighteen years ago)
it just doesn't seem very pervasive, admittedly when i come to think of it i have heard it in shops and a couple of tv idents. this measure the success of a song by how many times i hear it in a week idea may not be very useful tbh thou. also rihanna doesn't seem to be in the press that much. not being british puts her at one remove and she has yet to be a beyonce style megastar. possibly kind of hard to write broadsheet articles on. she was at live earth wasn't she?
― acrobat, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 10:50 (eighteen years ago)