Curious that he went from "Tusk" to the anti-septic (proto-digital?) production of "MIrage" and "Tango." For that matter, just about everything Buckingham has produced from "Mirage"-on seems very much of a piece, sound-wise. I mean, I like it all, but his solo albums in particular make my ears hurt in large doses, esp. with all the sped-up guitars and pitch-shifting that abounds. Almost as if, as far as Lindsey's concerned, e strings don't get high enough.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 30 August 2010 19:30 (fifteen years ago)
That I now so love a record that lets Stevie Nicks thank "the poet in my heart," when that kind of shit made me gag in the fall of '79 (when I lived and died by 'Rust Never Sleeps' and 'Repeat When Necessary').
This is a really lovely sentiment. Seriously.
― Kevin John Bozelka, Thursday, 4 November 2010 06:23 (fifteen years ago)
Interesting tidbit about Colbie Calliat:
Her father, Ken Caillat, co-produced Fleetwood Mac's Rumours (1977) and Tusk (1979) albums.
― kkvgz, Monday, 8 November 2010 14:32 (fifteen years ago)
Dudes production resume goes directly from coproducing Fleetwood Mac directly to coproducing his daughter. I'm going to have to delve deeper into her records.
― kkvgz, Monday, 8 November 2010 14:36 (fifteen years ago)
I've been caning the extra demos disc of Tusk the past few days and it's really quite satisfying. 'Storms' is unutterably lovely.
― Ismael Klata, Monday, 8 November 2010 14:44 (fifteen years ago)
"tusk" documentary on youtube in 8 parts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2j5cr_XJvc
― EIEIoOoOO (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 6 December 2010 21:29 (fifteen years ago)
nice! will watch. I've been caning the extra demos disc of Tusk the past few days and it's really quite satisfying. 'Storms' is unutterably lovely.for awhile i thought the bonus disc was kinda a waste of time, but i have learned the error of my ways. none of the alt versions are better than what's on the actual album, but they are still super rad. and farmer's daughter is esssssential.
― tylerw, Monday, 6 December 2010 21:37 (fifteen years ago)
i guess this was only available on laser disc
― EIEIoOoOO (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 6 December 2010 21:46 (fifteen years ago)
are there still people out there with laser disc players? i saw some for sale at a thrift shop last weekend.
― tylerw, Monday, 6 December 2010 21:49 (fifteen years ago)
i remember seeing portions of this doc on youtube. looking forward to watching. i can't remember if it was at this period that their manager limited them to one heineken beer cap of cocaine before each concert. such a strange story.
― jeevves, Tuesday, 7 December 2010 03:29 (fifteen years ago)
are there still people out there with laser disc players?― tylerw, Monday, December 6, 2010 9:49 PM
― tylerw, Monday, December 6, 2010 9:49 PM
:)
And I have the Tusk disc. Which has laser rot, so I'm glad it's on YouTube.
― Hideous Lump, Tuesday, 7 December 2010 05:10 (fifteen years ago)
I may have asked this question before, but if so I forget on which thread or what the answer was. Anyway, here goes: the other day "Tusk" (the track) was played on BBC Radio 2 but it was completely different to the album and single version I know. Where the opening two verses should have been there was an extended instrumental section with lots more of the UCLA marching band.
What is this? (And why wasn't it on the deluxe version of the CD?)
― Jeff W, Monday, 7 February 2011 16:45 (fifteen years ago)
is it "Tusk" (USC intro mix)?
― just sayin, Monday, 7 February 2011 16:50 (fifteen years ago)
(i havent heard this other version, just saw something abt it while i was googling)
― just sayin, Monday, 7 February 2011 16:51 (fifteen years ago)
could be a different marching band?
― Mark G, Monday, 7 February 2011 16:53 (fifteen years ago)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/recsradio/radio/B000060P4U/ref=pd_krex_dp_002_003?ie=UTF8&track=003&disc=002
― Mark G, Monday, 7 February 2011 16:56 (fifteen years ago)
xp
duh I meant USC of course. Thanks for the tip, just sayin, I'll investigate!
― Jeff W, Monday, 7 February 2011 16:56 (fifteen years ago)
daddy all I'm trying to tell you / oh I'm far away from home
― calstars, Tuesday, 4 October 2011 01:11 (fourteen years ago)
i just purchased tusk for the first time
this is an amazing record:
13. lindsay buckingham getting thanked as if he isn't in the band wtf?
― The Lady Ms Lurex (lucylurex), Sunday, February 22, 2004 6:13 PM (7 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
^^i totally noticed that, best credit ever in the history of music
― the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 27 October 2011 22:27 (fourteen years ago)
yeah always figured that was some kind of inside joke? like, thanks for being an asshole while we were recording this, asshole.
― tylerw, Thursday, 27 October 2011 22:36 (fourteen years ago)
seriously though, this album! wow! it's really amazing.
i totally get the white album comparison, that same sense that "the band" has ended and everyone has retreated to their respective corners
― the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 27 October 2011 22:37 (fourteen years ago)
lindsay is one harsh motherfucker on this huh?
i listened to this once when i was having ~relationship doubts~ and it was really heavy. kind of exorcised them otoh.
― ah, how quaint (Matt P), Thursday, 27 October 2011 22:39 (fourteen years ago)
the SHALALA SHALALA AH AH WO-HOOOOs on Tusk.
― lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 27 October 2011 22:41 (fourteen years ago)
on "Brown Eyes," rather
anyone read this? 33 1/3 on tusk
http://www.amazon.com/Fleetwood-Macs-Tusk-Rob-Trucks/dp/0826429025
― jaxon, Thursday, 27 October 2011 22:44 (fourteen years ago)
no, but i assume it's just a list of 50 great things about Fleetwood Mac's "Tusk" ?
― tylerw, Thursday, 27 October 2011 22:46 (fourteen years ago)
The best 33 1/3 take on this album would have been publishing this thread tbh
― lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 27 October 2011 22:50 (fourteen years ago)
50 great things about Fleetwood Mac's "Tusk"By Suggest B. Permalink
― tylerw, Thursday, 27 October 2011 22:51 (fourteen years ago)
loll
― ah, how quaint (Matt P), Thursday, 27 October 2011 22:51 (fourteen years ago)
The congas on "Honey Hi"
― Mule, Thursday, 27 October 2011 23:02 (fourteen years ago)
I'm sorry but my ears will always hear McVie singing "Just remember that LOVE IS COLD" in "Never Forget."
― lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 27 October 2011 23:06 (fourteen years ago)
I think the reason Lindsey gets "special thanks" is that so many of his songs feature him and only him, possibly repurposed from a solo album in progress. Which he/the Mac would do again and again: Lindsey would get busy with his songs, the band would reconvene and he'd port over his solo stuff to the group. But certainly on this one the Lindsey tracks are overwhelmingly Lindsey. He may even be playing drums.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 27 October 2011 23:17 (fourteen years ago)
I think "The Ledge" and "What Makes You Think..." are all-Lindsey affairs, but the great thing about this record is how it still sounds like a band. Mick Fleetwood and John Mcvie especially sound up for the challenge.
― lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 27 October 2011 23:19 (fourteen years ago)
I literally cannot imagine Lindsey playing those bass runs on "Sara," fer instance.
― lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 27 October 2011 23:20 (fourteen years ago)
I'd like to think "What Makes You Think .." is Lindsey on drums, because I'm not sure how total pro Mick could play a part so crazed and unpredictable.
Ugh, apparently that book is another in which the author inserts himself into the narrative as a character, "Rob."
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 27 October 2011 23:21 (fourteen years ago)
by all accounts Mick was the most willing to go along with Lindsey's indulgences.
― lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 27 October 2011 23:22 (fourteen years ago)
(biases showing: I'm less enamored with he-plays-everything prowess the older I get; I prefer a good band).
― lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 27 October 2011 23:23 (fourteen years ago)
Oh, I'm not impressed by the he-plays-everything approach. I do find, though, that whether it's Lindsey or Macca or Pete Townshend or whomever, it often gets cool results when a guy tries his hand at something other than his primary instrument.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 27 October 2011 23:25 (fourteen years ago)
Number whatever: the way Lindsey is clearly alluding to Brian Eno's "I'll Come Running" in "Save Me a Place."
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 27 October 2011 23:27 (fourteen years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfiJgvdUC1E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFz50q_QmfE
There's a story way upthread from Lindsey where he confirms Fleetwood plays drums on "WMYTYTO?" and that he himself plays the piano.
― The Man With The Flavored Toothpick (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 27 October 2011 23:36 (fourteen years ago)
if you watch the "making-of" documentary it is almost entirely studio scenes, it looks like early going but they are all there and involved. Clearly very early takes, but you can hear parts of "angel" that made it to the record.
Also doesn't seem to be too much ill will floating around, but probably just for the cameras
― Deverly (Bangelo), Thursday, 27 October 2011 23:39 (fourteen years ago)
― The Man With The Flavored Toothpick (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, October 27, 2011 7:36 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
Lindsey: Oh yeah, that’s one of the classic drum tracks. I love that. That’s one of the great drum tracks that I’ve ever heard. That’s up there with "Instant Karma." That was a great moment. That was just Mick and myself late at night in the studio, me at the piano. We put a cassette player that has one of those really cheap mikes in it, we put that right under his snare, and it was so explosive the way he heard it in the cans, he got off on it, and he just turned into an animal. And it was just two-piece, there was no Christine or anybody putting any constraints on what could or couldn’t be done. That has to rate as one of my top-five moments with the band.
― rustic italian flatbread, Thursday, 27 October 2011 23:42 (fourteen years ago)
Quiet, venomous dig at Christine there.
― lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 27 October 2011 23:44 (fourteen years ago)
I've read that Lindsey's demos were recreated in the studio, and apparently they blew a chunk of money trying to build an exact replica of his tiled bathroom in the studio for acoustics - I'm unsure how much of that is myth though.
'Brown Eyes' never fails to amaze me, in the sense that there isn't even much of a song there, but every time I listen to it I just get so caught up in how great the drums sound, and those washes of vocal harmonies throughout the track.
― Turrican, Thursday, 27 October 2011 23:50 (fourteen years ago)
― Deverly (Bangelo), Thursday, October 27, 2011 11:39 PM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark
There's clearly a lot of coke floating around, though! You can't get through the interviews with Mick Fleetwood on that documentary without hearing him sniff every couple of words!
You're right about them all being present and all being very involved, however I'm not convinced the documentary even scratches the surface of what was going on in the band at that time... as you say, probably just trying to tone things down for the cameras...
― Turrican, Thursday, 27 October 2011 23:57 (fourteen years ago)
I'm not sure why Lindsey gets the 'special thanks' treatment on the liner notes though, even though I've always seen 'Tusk' as pretty much Lindsey's baby.
― Turrican, Friday, 28 October 2011 00:00 (fourteen years ago)
That "Tusk" doc feels like the cameras were there for, like, a weekend or two. Over the course of six months or so.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 28 October 2011 00:17 (fourteen years ago)