Do we like the Scissor Sisters?

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Scissor Sisters album is actually quite good. I like it a little.

― Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 30 August 2004 19:26 (nineteen years ago) link

Finally got the album (or files thereof). If it lives up to the singles (that weren't the Floyd cover), then all is well.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 30 August 2004 20:06 (nineteen years ago) link

scissor sisters rool! i don't actually own a copy of the album, but i hear it so much in other people's houses that i don't really need one. definitely one of my favourite things from this year.

― weasel diesel (K1l14n), Monday, 30 August 2004 22:05 (nineteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

So I'm finally hearing the album and it's quite the treat! Amusing sleaze, like a Soft Cell with guitars and no angst (or not as much).

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 21:25 (nineteen years ago) link

bored me senseless but I might give it another try

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 21:30 (nineteen years ago) link

Alternately, like U.S.E., they work a certain Andrew WK approach in a way that I actually like.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 21:33 (nineteen years ago) link

It's one of those albums that you don't need to own because hald the people you know are bound to own a copy, but one that is pleasant company at the time.

Ultimately, though, I'm afraid I have to partly agree with Andrew Weatherall on this one. Shawadawoddy for our times.

― Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 12:09 (nineteen years ago) link

Weathers is a well known fun hater

― the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 12:12 (nineteen years ago) link

They're not even as good as Showaddywaddy! Showaddywaddy had two drummers! They supported Einsturzende Neubauten!

Otherwise "Weathers" proves yet again his impeccable taste, impeccable that is apart from the ghastly mess that constitutes the current Two Lone Swordsmen album.

― Donnie Smith The Quiz Kid, Wednesday, 15 September 2004 12:21 (nineteen years ago) link

i can say categorically say that weatherall is not a fun hater
the swordsmen album is not as good as it might be, though

― stelfox, Wednesday, 15 September 2004 12:40 (nineteen years ago) link

i'll have to give Tiny Reminders another go (yes you will stevem)

Weatherall's 'tache was fun.

― the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 12:52 (nineteen years ago) link

They have actually passed that threshold where I become borderline homicidal if I so much as hear them.

― Danger Whore (kate), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 12:58 (nineteen years ago) link

you mean you have actually killed people?

― the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 13:03 (nineteen years ago) link

everyone's criticism of them seems a direct kneejerk to the abundance of praise they get i.e. over-rating, as with The Strokes. these are not at all bad bands lacking talent but just because they're not revolutionary i wouldn't bother pouring scorn on them either.

― the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 13:05 (nineteen years ago) link

Not yet... close, but not yet.

No, it's not a reaction to the praise that they get, it's a reaction to the fact that not only have they been the (unchosen) soundtrack to some dire times recently, but also that people tend to play their records OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER and *that* makes me homicidal.

The Strokes Overexposure Award, for "Band I Love To Hate", this month, clearly goes to the Libertines, but that's another thread...

― Danger Whore (kate), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 13:11 (nineteen years ago) link

I will say this, "Laura" fell flat. Was that the biggest single of theirs?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 13:12 (nineteen years ago) link

The one I've had inflicted on me the most is that Comfortably Numb cover. Which really does make me want to stick rusty nails into my eardrums to STOP THE GODAWFUL NOISE!!!

― Danger Whore (kate), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 13:14 (nineteen years ago) link

The difference between my reaction to The Strokes and my reaction to The Libertines lies solely in the fact that, aside from that Cars-influenced single from their last album, Julian's singing can go suck a gigantic piece of moose shit. (Also I am predisposed towards liking something like The Scissor Sisters more than something like The Strokes.)

― Dan Perry '08 (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 13:16 (nineteen years ago) link

I would grudgefuck Julian C. I would totally grudgefuck blokey out of the Libertines.

There is NOT ONE SINGLE MEMBER OF SCISSOR SISTERS who even comes remotely near a murmer from my clitoris, so I don't even have the option of "I hate them so much I actually want to grudgefuck them till their penises bleed!"

― Danger Whore (kate), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 13:22 (nineteen years ago) link

It's one of those albums that you don't need to own because hald the people you know are bound to own a copy, but one that is pleasant company at the time.

So so true. I might even say it's past pleasant to quite enjoyable but I still feel no need to own.

― Vinnie (vprabhu), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 13:36 (nineteen years ago) link

getting played over and over again amounts to praise in my book. you are saying you hate them because you can't avoid them rather than you hate them because their music is bad. criticisms like 'it's just 70s Elton John' (he was good then!) and 'for hipster wankers' fall flatter than 'Laura' which is a good track i think (tho 'Mary' is my current fave on the album)

― the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 13:40 (nineteen years ago) link

I hate the Scissor Sisters because their music is bad.

― Donnie Smith The Quiz Kid, Wednesday, 15 September 2004 13:43 (nineteen years ago) link

Techno dj in hating pop non shocker.

― Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 13:44 (nineteen years ago) link

I dislike them because their music is a sort of insipid, hyper-bland, SO BLAND IT'S LIKE DRINKING VANILLA FLAVOURING STRAIGHT OUT OF THE BOTTLE, IT'S SO BLAND IT PHYSICALLY HURTS YOU, gay-gay-super-gay, 70s, cocaine-fuelled RUBBISH.

What's pushed me over the line from mere "meh, this sucks, change the channel" is yes, the overexposure. I've started another thread about this, because I'm interested in my extreme reactions to certain artists.

― Danger Whore (kate), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 13:45 (nineteen years ago) link

Late 70s/early 80s vibe, rather than pure 70s. It just reminds me of when I first moved to America, it sounds like all the crap that was all over the radio when I was a miserable child.

― Danger Whore (kate), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 13:46 (nineteen years ago) link

it's not bland for all those reasons.

― Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 13:46 (nineteen years ago) link

In what bizarro universe does straight vanilla extract have a bland taste?

― Dan Perry '08 (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 13:46 (nineteen years ago) link

That's exactly my point, Dan! Have you ever drank vanilla flavouring straight out of the bottle? IT ACTUALLY PHYSICALLY HURTS YOU. That's what listening to this music is like. It is concentrated, painful, blandness.

― Danger Whore (kate), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 13:47 (nineteen years ago) link

it's actually "fun"

― Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 13:53 (nineteen years ago) link

Then it isn't really bland, is it?

― Dan Perry '08 (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 13:54 (nineteen years ago) link

Dan otm.

― Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 13:55 (nineteen years ago) link

Yes it is. It is cocaine white blandness. It just *sounds* slick, it sounds so slick that you can't actually hear the music because it just slides off your eardrum.

― Danger Whore (kate), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 13:56 (nineteen years ago) link

actually one thing that bugs me about 'tits on the radio' is the way they repeat a line just before the chorus - i can't really see the worth of that. it's still a great track tho.

slick != bland. tho that is subjective, i love a lot of slickly produced music. dirty edge = over-rated, possibly more than the siziziziziz

― the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 13:58 (nineteen years ago) link

ESPECIALLY in indie-influenced circles.

― Dan Perry '08 (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 13:58 (nineteen years ago) link

Slick does not equal bland if there is substance to the music. I mean, I love bubblegum, I love slickness in music, if it's the right kind of slickness. This is like slickness as a *substitute* for music, rather than shining up something that is already good.

But yes, all this is subjective.

― Danger Whore (kate), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 14:00 (nineteen years ago) link

The substance is there, Swygart nailed why the Scissor Sisters are quite good perfectly in his Pop Eye thread when 'Laura' charted - I quoted it on the Top 100 Albums 2000-2004 thread as a result.

― the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 14:01 (nineteen years ago) link

disco=cocaine music=blandness etc etc etc etc

― Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 14:04 (nineteen years ago) link

Scissor Sisters live - grebt.
Scissor Sisters on record - "meh", ranging to "argh what is this shit?"

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 14:05 (nineteen years ago) link

reading the thread again, some very interesting points. stirmonster think they're trying too hard too, and i can see that. but conversely adam was suggesting they're not trying hard enough. i think they could stand to be more like Deee-Lite, they already have better songs than Deee-Lite (apart from THE ONE)

― the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 14:06 (nineteen years ago) link

I mean, its cabaret, and if you're going to do cabaret you might as well do it all singing all dancing PROPERLY rather than the muted offering on the album.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 14:06 (nineteen years ago) link

I don't like the music, I don't like the way it sounds, I don't like their melodies, I don't like their harmonic structures, their lyrics make me want to scratch my own ears out, I dislike their production, I dislike their image, I dislike everything about them.

Yeah, that's just me being shallow and "indie", yeah.

― Danger Whore (kate), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 14:07 (nineteen years ago) link

it's not meant to be full on cabaret, it's meant to be cheesey rock music.

personally, though the album's not all classic, I think the good songs are better than most of the utter drivel in the album charts, at least there's a sense of difference there.

and "comfortably numb" is a brilliant record.

― Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 14:09 (nineteen years ago) link

The Scissor Sisters are vile. Robbie Williams jamming with Jools Holland. Rolf Harris in bell bottoms with the Young Generation in 1973. Cannon and Ball's Casino with special guest Nick Kamen. Tom Fucking Jones. Nitty gritty. Music being played on the stereo system of that smug, smirking woman on the Standard Life advert, having just read the news about the 1000 redundancies Standard Life are making and licking her lips at the increased dividends these job losses will bring to her as a customer, and thus enabling her to flick crumbs of coulis at the dole queue from within the second BMW which she has been able to buy with said increased dividend plus or minus interest. Smug Roaring Boys spawn who ought to have their livers cut out with fucking scissors and fed forcefully to them via their newly denuded eye sockets, before having their semi-severed heads nailed to the door of the Islington Marquee and being forced to listen to the Go West remixes album until they expire painfully and pedantically in pallid puffs of arduous apnoea.

― Donnie Smith The Quiz Kid, Wednesday, 15 September 2004 14:10 (nineteen years ago) link

Also it's not as good as the last one.

― Donnie Smith The Quiz Kid, Wednesday, 15 September 2004 14:13 (nineteen years ago) link

can you strickly have a 'crumb' of coulis?

― HKM, Wednesday, 15 September 2004 14:13 (nineteen years ago) link

look come on this thread is on indie overload already without a clichéd tirade about the evil men in suits

― Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 14:14 (nineteen years ago) link

I went to a show of theirs once with some friends and we all forgot to listen to the music and just kind of talked to each other the whole time, although we did boogie a little bit. I was surprised by how "straight" the crowd was, given how bent the Scissors are (haha er). But people were really going bonkers over them.

Kate they kind of slide off my ears, too, but I'm not sure it's because their arrangements or production are slick, as much as it's just all kind of unmemorably executed. I lurrrve male/female vocal combos in bands but nothing grabs me about this one. Like I said though, I wasn't really paying attention.

― You've Got to Pick Up Every Stitch (tracerhand), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 14:15 (nineteen years ago) link

(xpost to HKM)

They used to do them in Le Petit Blanc.

― Donnie Smith The Quiz Kid, Wednesday, 15 September 2004 14:15 (nineteen years ago) link

Tracer on the money. Unmemorable would be the word. I honestly would not remember any of their songs if I hadn't been utterly overexposed to them.

― Danger Whore (kate), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 14:20 (nineteen years ago) link

totally disagree about 'unmemorable' - their tracks really linger in my head, epitomy of catchy

― the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 14:25 (nineteen years ago) link

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