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writing on that is really good -- i imagine it was all scott?

Yeah it had to be all scott .. he probably chose the videos too.

I'm a little upset this hasn't recieved more fanfare.. it kinda made my week.

Looks like a great list, at a glance. Really wish I had time to watch 50 YouTube videos and give this some attention. (I've probably seen about half of these videos otherwise... really good stuff.)

so this thing has continued into The Top 200 Tracks of the 1990s

http://pitchfork.com/features/staff-lists/7854-the-top-200-tracks-of-the-1990s-200-151/

and this is what i'd call the best list i've ever seen on pitchfork.

the dance people have brought their a-game entirely.

seeing 'real love' like 10 spots below 'dry the rain' is the pt at which i throw up my hands & o_O at indie

okay maybe i have been ignoring the indie choices a little.

Top 50 will be lots of indie, I bet we're seeing all the "dance" stuff early (i.e., lower) in the list.

#1 will be, like, "Summer Babe"

#2 will be "Paranoid Android"

#3 will be "The Insistor"

#4 will be butthole surfers 'pepper'

just realize markers prob never was around when that was big & felt old :(
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4WUlNSx_Wk

lol @ most liked comment on that vid

MajkeTiTvoje
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Not many bands can become succesful with the word butthole in their name

#1 will be, like, "Summer Babe"

blurb transmitted from the past by ott on an old napkin touched by malkmus.

Ironically, despite its enduring legacy as the Neptunes' breakthrough, "SuperThug" wasn't Pharrell Williams and Chad Hugo's first chart hit. That belonged to Ma$e, whose "Lookin' At Me" bore the Neptunes' imprimatur and reached no. 8 on Billboard's Hot 100. No one remembers "Lookin' at Me", but "SuperThug", released the same year, is unforgettable.

RUMP SHAKER????????? other than that, p good list so far.

i dont know if chad was involved w/ rump shaker?

ok the further i get in, the more i start to question things. the top 10 is going to have to be p fucking spectacular to not include groove is in the heart. brothers gonna work it out over terrordome? daytona 500 over winter warz? ice cream over glaciers of ice? got yr money over shimmy/brooklyn zoo? small quibbles, i grant you, in a still v interesting list

that vids list is aight but kind of heavy on the palm pictures dvd contingent, no?

That's an okay list, but where's "Tha Crossroads" and "Return to Innocence"? Both had very memorable videos, even if you don't like the music. And "Come to Daddy" as #1?!! I guess it's technically well done, but fuck that goth shit. As far as horror-inspired Cunningham videos go, "Come on My Selector" and "Afrika Shox" (which isn't even on the list) are both better.

in the singles list: mortal kombat theme is by the lords of acid dudes, not the klf.

Good list so far, I think, even though the order seems nearly inconsequential at this point.

Nice surprises in the 100-50 range:

Dinosaur Jr "Start Choppin'" over "Freak Scene"
Jeff Buckley "Last Goodbye" over "Hallelujah"
Disco Inferno "Love Stepping Out" at #74 -- AWESOME!

Questionable choices:

Stereolab "French Disko" over "Jenny Ondioline" -- both great, but I think the latter's their best.
REM "Nightswimming" over "Losing My Religion"/"Drive" -- hmmmm.
Sonic Youth "100%" over "The Diamond Sea" -- though "100%" gets an excellent blurb, so w/e.
GY!BE "Moya" over Swans "Failure" -- I like both, but Swans are clearly superior (and one of GY!BE's biggest touchstones).
Public Enemy "Brothers Gonna Work It Out" over "Welcome to the Terrordome" -- *shrug*...

I'm perfectly fine with "Got Your Money" and "Daytona 500" repping for ODB/Ghost, btw!

ice cream >>>>>>>> glaciers of ice

got your money >>>> brooklyn zoo/shimmy shimmy ya

tbh, this entire list is so completely baffling that it really transcends pointless message board arguments about right or wrong

tbh, nothing really transcends pointless message board arguments about right or wrong

I'm curious to know how the representative song for each artist was determined. Was it simply the highest-ranked song when the votes were compiled (and therefore all lower-ranked songs by the artist were dropped)? Or was it discussed beforehand?

the top 10 is going to have to be p fucking spectacular to not include groove is in the heart

Yeah, I thought this was oddly low, too. I'm not too surprised at stuff like "Real Love" over "Dry the Rain" b/c it's not hard for me to imagine that more P4k writers had formative music-listening experiences with Beta Band than with Mary J. Blige, but "Groove Is in the Heart" seems like such a universally beloved classic that it's definitely strange to see it rank below a Godspeed You Black Emperor track.

i had completely forgotten that beta band existed until this thread

is my memory hazy or haven't we had like 30,000 different thread for every pitchfork list where jaymc starts playing slash/fic with the voting process and everyone else pretty much rolls their eyes and says for the billionth time "it's editorial decisions not a democracy"

hes not "playing slash/fic" hes "discussing the results" on "a message board"

i hope the top 10 is interesting, i don't think anyone who reads pfork needs to be told once again how good those same few radiohead/mbv/pavement records are

like i can't imagine anyone fistpumping heartily when they see "paranoid android" pop up at #1 or whatever, regardless of whether they like it

lol deej -- I've heard that Butthole Surfers song a million times on the radio, although I didn't know it was their song until now. I only really started to pay attention to music in, like, 1998 or something though, and Wikipedia tells me the song was a hit in 1996 . . .

i told scott i'd only write about groove is in the heart if it was purposefully kept out of the top 100 just to fuck with people.

brothers gonna work it out over terrordome? daytona 500 over winter warz? ice cream over glaciers of ice? got yr money over shimmy/brooklyn zoo?

REM "Nightswimming" over "Losing My Religion"/"Drive" -- hmmmm.
Sonic Youth "100%" over "The Diamond Sea" -- though "100%" gets an excellent blurb, so w/e.
GY!BE "Moya" over Swans "Failure" -- I like both, but Swans are clearly superior (and one of GY!BE's biggest touchstones).
Public Enemy "Brothers Gonna Work It Out" over "Welcome to the Terrordome" -- *shrug*...

Y'all are kidding with this, right?

ilx never kids.

ilxor the poster gets wildly sincere about pfork lists

Noted. Fwiw, I think p4k is kinda killin it.

ilxor the poster gets wildly sincere about pfork lists

to be fair, p4k lists are serious, serious business.

is my memory hazy or haven't we had like 30,000 different thread for every pitchfork list where jaymc starts playing slash/fic with the voting process and everyone else pretty much rolls their eyes and says for the billionth time "it's editorial decisions not a democracy"

Well, do you know for a fact that it's editorial decisions or are you just presuming that it is? "Editorial decisions" is too vague to tell me anything, anyway. I suspect that the editors shuffle a few things around, but I'd like to think they're not determining the entire list themselves.

I only really started to pay attention to music in, like, 1998 or something though

That does make me feel old, though I really only started to pay attention to music in 1990.

oh my god dude

jaymc all the p4k lists are made the same way: staff votes + editorial massaging

Interesting that in the 90s video list, 15 of the top 20 videos are from 97-99.

I noticed this because I hadn't seen many of the videos, and those years were really the only years in the 90s that I wasn't watching mtv like 10 hours a day.

to be fair a lot of early 90s videos were REALLY bad. unless someone wants to make a case for collective soul rocking out in the woods.

Collective Soul. In the woods. Rocking out. Directed by Michel Gondry.

i'm kind of surprised Modest Mouse and (especially) D-Plan are so far on the list, honestly expected them to enter the top 50

I don't know, p4k tends to like Built to Spill a little more than Modest Mouse, and Dismemberment Plan seems like something they're just clinging to, so it makes sense to me that they'd be 100-51 range.

I'm pretty stoked that they chose "Trailer Trash." I'm not sure that Modest Mouse had a pivotal cultural moment in the 90's on the level of some of this other stuff, but for me and my friends "Trailer Trash" was earth-shattering.

Harvey Danger wuz robbed