Best Line in "Graceland"

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horseshoe, Saturday, 21 August 2010 23:10 (fifteen years ago)

great album. great song.

plax (ico), Saturday, 21 August 2010 23:11 (fifteen years ago)

best album of whatever year it was released

Michael B, Saturday, 21 August 2010 23:13 (fifteen years ago)

Alright in a kind of a limited way for an off-night.

rhythm fixated member (chap), Saturday, 21 August 2010 23:35 (fifteen years ago)

Really can't listen to this album anymore having heard it at so many cinematographers' parties.

Doctor Casino, Sunday, 22 August 2010 00:00 (fifteen years ago)

If you listen to Live in Central Park, each NYC reference in the Simon oeuvre is met with extended whooping.

"There is a girl in New York City...."

WHOOWOOOWHOOWHWOHWOHOOOWHOOO

Bag Smart, Street Stupid (Eazy), Sunday, 22 August 2010 00:08 (fifteen years ago)

Haha, yeah. 'Counting the cars on the New Jersey turnpike' etc.

rhythm fixated member (chap), Sunday, 22 August 2010 00:13 (fifteen years ago)

Has anyone seen One Trick Pony? Is it any good?

rhythm fixated member (chap), Sunday, 22 August 2010 00:16 (fifteen years ago)

its ... entertaining

NOT FUNNY NEEDS MORE GUCCI (deej), Sunday, 22 August 2010 01:50 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah, xps, 'Gumboots' is the best

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 22 August 2010 07:46 (fifteen years ago)

i voted "for reasons i cannot explain some part of me wants to see graceland" -- b/c that's what I feel about graceland (and any number of other tourist traps).

Voting with My Dollars for More Swill to be Made (Eisbaer), Sunday, 22 August 2010 14:02 (fifteen years ago)

Some One Trick Pony discussion here:

Paul Simon - One Trick Pony, C or D

and maybe here:

http://www.ilxor.com/ILX/ThreadSelectedControllerServlet?boardid=41&threadid=31830

Doctor Casino, Sunday, 22 August 2010 15:07 (fifteen years ago)

(that's "Do you believe Paul Simon when, in "Late in the Evening", he describes how he returns to the club after smoking a "J" and proceeds to turn up his amp and "(blow) that room away"?")

Doctor Casino, Sunday, 22 August 2010 15:08 (fifteen years ago)

classic alex in nyc on that thread:

I believe the bit about smokin' the "j", but not about the room-blowin' (like he suddenly morphed into a diminutive clone of Yngwie Malmsteen).
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, July 22, 2004 8:59 PM (6 years ago) Bookmark

Voting with My Dollars for More Swill to be Made (Eisbaer), Sunday, 22 August 2010 15:13 (fifteen years ago)

is there anyone right now writing lyrics this good and self-aware about the nyc hip-art-music-whatever scene? vampire weekend is the only band thats even attempting this i think and--i think theyre good lyricists--but theyre not paul simon

max, Sunday, 22 August 2010 21:12 (fifteen years ago)

tbf they've had two albums, what album was graceland for him.

plax (ico), Sunday, 22 August 2010 21:17 (fifteen years ago)

all his albums have v good lyrics post-simon and garfunkel it's kind of his "thing"

horseshoe, Sunday, 22 August 2010 21:19 (fifteen years ago)

the 70s solo simon albums are so new york-y

horseshoe, Sunday, 22 August 2010 21:19 (fifteen years ago)

like woody allen movies they have had a debilitating effect on my adult life

horseshoe, Sunday, 22 August 2010 21:19 (fifteen years ago)

im not saying vampire weekend "should" be the new paul simon of lyrics, im just wondering if there is a 2000s paul simon

max, Sunday, 22 August 2010 21:20 (fifteen years ago)

like if there was ever a 'scene' that could use a self aware lyricist with a good sense of humor about 'the scene'... its brooklyn ca 2010

max, Sunday, 22 August 2010 21:21 (fifteen years ago)

and the thing is vw are UWS brats not brooklyn brats

max, Sunday, 22 August 2010 21:22 (fifteen years ago)

i think it's clear what you have to do, max

horseshoe, Sunday, 22 August 2010 21:22 (fifteen years ago)

zinging is my art

max, Sunday, 22 August 2010 21:23 (fifteen years ago)

not lyrics

max, Sunday, 22 August 2010 21:23 (fifteen years ago)

it's a fine line!!!!!

horseshoe, Sunday, 22 August 2010 21:23 (fifteen years ago)

too true, too true

max, Sunday, 22 August 2010 21:23 (fifteen years ago)

in a lot of ways my tumblr is my graceland

max, Sunday, 22 August 2010 21:24 (fifteen years ago)

i mean you dont really need a graceland when you have the ny times in 2010:

http://celebraterickysargulesh.tumblr.com/post/418545344/brooklyn-2010

max, Sunday, 22 August 2010 21:24 (fifteen years ago)

yeah i still think he did take a while to "mature" as a songwriter. the s+gf stuff is only intermittently good lyrically

plax (ico), Sunday, 22 August 2010 21:25 (fifteen years ago)

Come Anticipate Norah Jones's NYC Zingers.

I do think Craig Finn works at combining stuff that's never been in a song with specific snapshots of times and spaces with stream-of-consciousness, but it's not NYC.

Bag Smart, Street Stupid (Eazy), Sunday, 22 August 2010 21:25 (fifteen years ago)

the s+gf stuff is only intermittently good lyrically

― plax (ico), Sunday, August 22, 2010 5:25 PM (43 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

it's true; i don't really like simon and garfunkel that much at all

horseshoe, Sunday, 22 August 2010 21:26 (fifteen years ago)

yeah finns a good lyricist, but hes not as funny as simon i dont think, or as self aware, and, crucially, from britain or alaska or somewhere

max, Sunday, 22 August 2010 21:26 (fifteen years ago)

yeah i still think he did take a while to "mature" as a songwriter. the s+gf stuff is only intermittently good lyrically

^^^ my next point, actually. To be fair to both Koenig and Simon, the latter didn't stumble into his lyrical genius. S&G is often painfully, clumsily erudite.

Gucci Mane hermeneuticist (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 22 August 2010 21:27 (fifteen years ago)

Neil Tennant and Robert Forster wrote really good songs about scenes, but their time has passed, I guess.

Gucci Mane hermeneuticist (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 22 August 2010 21:28 (fifteen years ago)

yeah, thats fine. i didnt really mean to rag on VW, im just wondering if there IS a 2000s-paul-simon-of-new-york, besides me and my tumblr

max, Sunday, 22 August 2010 21:28 (fifteen years ago)

btw i have never seen this:

In 1988, Simon released a video for the song to promote his greatest hits compilation, Negotiations and Love Songs. The video features an introduction by rappers Big Daddy Kane and Biz Markie. The video depicts adults interacting with the youth of an inner city schoolyard where they dealt drugs. It shows Simon playing basketball and baseball with the children, and it also features basketball player Spud Webb, baseball legend Mickey Mantle, and football coach/commentator John Madden giving tips to young athletes.[1]

max, Sunday, 22 August 2010 21:29 (fifteen years ago)

(thats re: me and julio)

max, Sunday, 22 August 2010 21:29 (fifteen years ago)

S+G was writing genre songs in the same way that Simon always does, but he was getting Elizabethan and Hymnal Music out of the way early, saving zydeco and (on the great "Adios Hermanos") doo-wop for later.

Bag Smart, Street Stupid (Eazy), Sunday, 22 August 2010 21:30 (fifteen years ago)

there's a making the album documentary where simon talks u through writing graceland line by line and it seems like anyone could have written that song, its kindof awesome.

plax (ico), Sunday, 22 August 2010 21:39 (fifteen years ago)

idk i think his skill is in managing to be really evocative w/ the smallest parts "the child of my first marriage" is such a banal line but it also paints a massive backstory and dovetails so well w/ the forehead hair brusher l8r

plax (ico), Sunday, 22 August 2010 21:41 (fifteen years ago)

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Tuesday, 24 August 2010 23:01 (fifteen years ago)

the last line in this song always kills me. i'm not sure why.

we wanted lime (mike a), Wednesday, 25 August 2010 04:42 (fifteen years ago)

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Wednesday, 25 August 2010 23:01 (fifteen years ago)

poor boys, pilgrims with families and we are going to graceland 0

^^ i dont know that this line got "robbed" buts another one where he has perfect delivery

max, Wednesday, 25 August 2010 23:02 (fifteen years ago)

maybe he should have worked new york city into the line somehow.

got electrolytes (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 25 August 2010 23:05 (fifteen years ago)

she comes back to tell me she's gone 0

The declarative sentence loses.

Gucci Mane hermeneuticist (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 25 August 2010 23:11 (fifteen years ago)

i'd just like to point out that there is a tie for first place here

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 25 August 2010 23:54 (fifteen years ago)

Reading these lyrics out, they read like Dan Bejar lyrics.

altered boners (rennavate), Thursday, 26 August 2010 07:05 (fifteen years ago)

The declarative sentence loses.

Which is unfortunate, because I love that line.

Brad Nelson (BradNelson), Thursday, 26 August 2010 07:16 (fifteen years ago)


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