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Dear Geir,

Why is anything heavier than Genesis or Yes too heavy? Also, how did you arrive at that specific heaviness threshold?

― Jeff Treppel, Thursday, 3 May 2007 22:37 (seventeen years ago) link

Hi Gier: do you under any circumstances believe that simplicity is a virtue in music?

― chap, Friday, 4 May 2007 00:42 (seventeen years ago) link

Why is anything heavier than Genesis or Yes too heavy?

Because good music isn't supposed to be heavy at all. Good music is supposed to be pretty and soothing.

Hi Gier: do you under any circumstances believe that simplicity is a virtue in music?

Only if the music becomes so complex that tonality is being abandoned.

― Geir Hongro, Friday, 4 May 2007 08:28 (seventeen years ago) link

"good"

"pretty"

"soothing"

Yer a riot.

― JN$OT, Friday, 4 May 2007 08:31 (seventeen years ago) link

Like the one at the Exhibition of Degenerative Art organised by Goering in Nazi Germany 1938!!!!

― Marcello Carlin, Friday, 4 May 2007 11:06 (seventeen years ago) link

Because good music isn't supposed to be heavy at all. Good music is supposed to be pretty and soothing.

Absolutely the dumbest thing ever posted on ILM.

― Rock Hardy, Friday, 4 May 2007 13:47 (seventeen years ago) link

Dear Geir,

If that is the case, do you only like soothing and pretty movies/books/paintings?

― Jeff Treppel, Friday, 4 May 2007 19:49 (seventeen years ago) link

So what if he does?

― Curt1s Stephens, Friday, 4 May 2007 19:56 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm not making any judgment calls here. It's a pretty innocuous question! I obviously disagree with him, but I'm honestly curious if that's how he views just music, or all art in general. No need to get defensive about a question that wasn't even aimed at you. The thread is, after all, titled "Ask Geir Hongro."

― Jeff Treppel, Friday, 4 May 2007 20:05 (seventeen years ago) link

― sexyDancer, Friday, 4 May 2007 20:10 (seventeen years ago) link

Only if the music becomes so complex that tonality is being abandoned.

That does not compute. Tonality and complexity are not opposing forces (SEE ALSO: JS Bach).

― St3ve Go1db3rg, Friday, 4 May 2007 20:12 (seventeen years ago) link

If that is the case, do you only like soothing and pretty movies/books/paintings?

In the case of paintings, probably. In the case of books or movies it depends on whether they are meant just for entertainment. Music is meant just for entertainment.

― Geir Hongro, Friday, 4 May 2007 20:15 (seventeen years ago) link

Sorry, I tried to stay away, but that's complete bullshit and the new stupidest thing ever said here. Music has said more to me than any film and most books.

― call all destroyer, Friday, 4 May 2007 20:18 (seventeen years ago) link

This thread is making my head spin. Who posting here ISN'T Marcello?

― Euler, Friday, 4 May 2007 20:18 (seventeen years ago) link

Music has never ever said anything to me other than music itself, and it shouldn't say anything to anyone else as then you devalue the value of music as a value in itself.

― Geir Hongro, Friday, 4 May 2007 20:19 (seventeen years ago) link

aesthtetic pansy delusions, lol

― sexyDancer, Friday, 4 May 2007 20:22 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm not even mad, just blown away by how wrong that is. I don't even know what to do.

― call all destroyer, Friday, 4 May 2007 20:23 (seventeen years ago) link

Geir is Ralph Wiggum.

― Rock Hardy, Friday, 4 May 2007 21:15 (seventeen years ago) link

It's less Geir's extremely particular viewpoints, it's his pretentions to authority and objectivity. Where is he getting these ideas of what music is "supposed" to be other than his own personal reactions?

-- sexyDancer, Friday, 4 May 2007 20:10

Didn't Geir say somewhere in the archives that every post he makes is prefaced by an understood IN MY OPINION?

― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 4 May 2007 22:00 (seventeen years ago) link

we need a geir macro

― sexyDancer, Friday, 4 May 2007 22:01 (seventeen years ago) link

That's fairly obvious. Everything stated here is opinions. (Other than definitions etc, which may sometimes be opinions too, but sometimes not)

― Geir Hongro, Friday, 4 May 2007 22:18 (seventeen years ago) link

I HAS A OPINION
http://www.gallery19.us/images/100-75167.jpg

― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 4 May 2007 22:48 (seventeen years ago) link

Geir, if someone has a 'good' voice but has no songwriting ability, should they just give up their singing career or only sing their own material no matter how bad it is?

― Billy Dods, Monday, 14 May 2007 13:14 (seventeen years ago) link

Mr Hongro:

1. What exactly do you get out of contributing to ILM? Do you enjoy provoking folks here? Or do you find it odd that your views, as stated, generate typically visceral responses?

2. I asked this on the Eagles thread, and am genuniely curious as to the answer, so I ask you again: have you ever visited America?

― Veronica Moser, Monday, 14 May 2007 15:08 (seventeen years ago) link

More to the point, has he ever visited Majorca, particularly in the last fortnight?

― Marcello Carlin, Monday, 14 May 2007 15:17 (seventeen years ago) link

Geir, if someone has a 'good' voice but has no songwriting ability, should they just give up their singing career or only sing their own material no matter how bad it is?

Today there is this funny and useful little tool called Autotune. When it is being used to make it sound like completely untalented supermodels (who should never ever have been signed) are able to sing, then it may also be used to make it sound like an obviously talented songwriter (but with an awful singing voice) can sing

The other option, used a lot throughout rock history, is of course to start a band, and make sure to be the creative "dictator" of that band.

1. What exactly do you get out of contributing to ILM? Do you enjoy provoking folks here? Or do you find it odd that your views, as stated, generate typically visceral responses?

Whenever people aren't too hungup on "rockism" I find that there are a lot of interesting people here, with a lot of knowledge about music. And the non-canonical approach may be interesting at times (that is, when not used to mock non-rhythmic music)

2. I asked this on the Eagles thread, and am genuniely curious as to the answer, so I ask you again: have you ever visited America?

Visited New York for one week 23 years ago.

― Geir Hongro, Monday, 14 May 2007 22:07 (seventeen years ago) link

And, yes, I have visited Mallorca, but the last time was 17 years ago :)

― Geir Hongro, Monday, 14 May 2007 22:08 (seventeen years ago) link

http://solbjorg.com/images/GEIR%20Bottle%20&%20Box%20(straight%20on)%20(1).jpg

― zaxxon25, Monday, 14 May 2007 22:36 (seventeen years ago) link

Geir, I saw from some of your Usenet posts that you prefer The Ramones to Fleetwood Mac. Why?

― Dom Passantino, Tuesday, 15 May 2007 10:06 (seventeen years ago) link

Dunno. I am not really a big fan of either.

― Geir Hongro, Tuesday, 15 May 2007 10:16 (seventeen years ago) link

four months pass...

geir, who's better: george martin or nigel godrich?

― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Thursday, 27 September 2007 15:17 (sixteen years ago) link

Will you marry me?

― max r, Thursday, 27 September 2007 16:32 (sixteen years ago) link

be careful what you wish for

― Just got offed, Thursday, 27 September 2007 16:36 (sixteen years ago) link

Which is worse: 2 tone or 12 tone?

― max r, Thursday, 27 September 2007 16:42 (sixteen years ago) link

Did John Lennon's more "avant-garde" compositions (the ones without clear harmonic and melodic movement) indirectly affect the early stages of global warming and/or peak oil production?

― Davey D, Thursday, 27 September 2007 16:44 (sixteen years ago) link

"A Day in the Life of (Osama bin Laden)"

― JN$OT, Thursday, 27 September 2007 16:56 (sixteen years ago) link

Too bad about "The Long and Winding Pipeline" being a McCartney tune.

― JN$OT, Thursday, 27 September 2007 17:03 (sixteen years ago) link

He did write "Well Well Well" however

― Tom D., Thursday, 27 September 2007 17:05 (sixteen years ago) link

geir, who's better: george martin or nigel godrich?

Mitchell Froom. :)

Which is worse: 2 tone or 12 tone?

I hate 12 tone music and love a lot of 2 Tone stuff. Does that answer your question? :)

Did John Lennon's more "avant-garde" compositions (the ones without clear harmonic and melodic movement) indirectly affect the early stages of global warming and/or peak oil production?

I guess the production of those vinyl albums led to some CO2 being unneccessarily wasted, not to mention all the trees that were wasted on the sleeves. So the answer is yes.

― Geir Hongro, Thursday, 27 September 2007 19:47 (sixteen years ago) link

Are there any major Britpop bands you don't like, or even loathe, Geir?

― Dom Passantino, Thursday, 27 September 2007 19:50 (sixteen years ago) link

Are there any major Britpop bands you don't like, or even loathe, Geir?

I wouldn't say I loathe them, but I am certainly no fan of Stereophonics, Cast nor Starsailor.

― Geir Hongro, Thursday, 27 September 2007 19:51 (sixteen years ago) link

Why you so crazy, baby?

― max r, Thursday, 27 September 2007 19:55 (sixteen years ago) link

So what is it that you don't like about his music/influence?
> Minimalism, repetitiveness, way too few chords, way too little melody.

how many chords should a song have?
The more the better, as long as they keep it tonal.

-- Geir Hongro, Monday, 30 April 2007 23:14 (4 months ago) Link

Well, I take it you're not much of a Spacemen 3 fan...

― stephen, Thursday, 27 September 2007 21:07 (sixteen years ago) link

What's your favourite mode, Geir?

― Ismael Klata, Thursday, 27 September 2007 21:11 (sixteen years ago) link

Herr Hongro, can you tell us about your favorite concert that you ever attended…

― Veronica Moser, Thursday, 27 September 2007 22:03 (sixteen years ago) link

Herr Hongro, can you tell us about your favorite concert that you ever attended…

Not really. I am not into live music.

― Geir Hongro, Thursday, 27 September 2007 23:17 (sixteen years ago) link

geir hongro = patrick bateman?

― max r, Thursday, 27 September 2007 23:20 (sixteen years ago) link

Only if he's able to write a heartfelt two-page defence of the merits of 'Sports' by Huey Lewis & The News.

― MacDara, Thursday, 27 September 2007 23:27 (sixteen years ago) link

Huey Lewis and The News were more fun than most Britpop acts, I guess.

― max r, Thursday, 27 September 2007 23:29 (sixteen years ago) link

"I am not into live music."

With respect, Mr. Hongro, I would like to suggest that that is rather odd. Would you be interested in saying why you do not like live music?

As you know, until early in the last century, music was something that (generally speaking) people experienced in a social atmosphere. Is it that live music is less of a controlled and more of a spontaneous activity? Is there a sense in which you feel live music is unfinished? Or do you (and I admit the following is a query of a personal nature, which you may not like) not particularly like being around other people while experiencing music? Does social interaction via live music not interest you?

Thanks…

― Veronica Moser, Friday, 28 September 2007 22:27 (sixteen years ago) link

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