ha, basically who it totally sounds like (except with a girl singing) is Rednex! (Was their "Cotton Eyed Joe" a two-step hit in the U.S., or only a techno dance hit in Europe? Now I need to know.)
Now Bomshel's totally unnecessary but perfectly entertaining "Devil Went Down to Georgia" cover is making me wonder about apparent non-sequiturs I never gave a moment's worth of thought to before:
"The devil's in the house of the rising sun": I'm assuming this means the whorehouse itself, and is hence a moral warning? Except the house is in New Orleans, and he's in Georgia. Dude gets around!
"Chicken's in the bed pan, pickin' out dough." Or at least that's what it sounds like. I guess it would make perfect sense if you work in a bakery. But what does it have to do with the rest of the song? Was Charlie appropriating an ancient square dance call, or what?
― xhuxk (xheddy), Saturday, 30 September 2006 21:35 (nineteen years ago)
― anthony easton (anthony), Saturday, 30 September 2006 22:21 (nineteen years ago)
― don (dow), Saturday, 30 September 2006 23:44 (nineteen years ago)
i still owe you jason mccoy (and edd, and someone else) aargh busy
― anthony easton (anthony), Sunday, 1 October 2006 00:02 (nineteen years ago)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGrqW3nx5HM
it occurs to me that bombsel MIGHT be attempting a female version of big n rich's dual-harmony disco-country concept, in a way. their harmonies, if in fact they exist, are pretty close though. unless it's just one of the bombshell multi-tracked, i'm not sure yet.
― xhuxk (xheddy), Sunday, 1 October 2006 00:10 (nineteen years ago)
― xhuxk (xheddy), Sunday, 1 October 2006 00:15 (nineteen years ago)
looking thru my sqaure dance books, i found something called the chicken reel but nothing with the line, chicken in the bread pan, picking up dough
http://www.ceder.net/choreo/patter_sayings.php4 but this song claims the two lines are:
Chicken in the bread pan pickin' out doughBig pig rootin' up the little tater now.
Chicken in the bread pan scratching out gravel,get your maid & away you travel.
so i was right, but i dont have the dance patterns
― anthony easton (anthony), Sunday, 1 October 2006 07:45 (nineteen years ago)
― anthony easton (anthony), Sunday, 1 October 2006 07:47 (nineteen years ago)
"Country music definitely re-enforces redneck sister-fucking, whiskey-drinking, big-truck, cowboy retard stereotype as much as Yin Yang twins promote chicken-lovin, monkey-actin, small brained jigs. "
― xhuxk (xheddy), Sunday, 1 October 2006 12:33 (nineteen years ago)
This guy seems pretty smart, though:
Dr Flav Says:
September 24th, 2006 at 1:45 pm Divide and conquer is what is abound. Folk on here talking about racial stereotypes, while using slurrs thats really proactive. The negative context of minstrel shows came from whites applying blackface and exploiting and using thier act to copy or ridicule blacks with talent. This was a case of wanting to enjoy black entertainment, as long as there were not any real blacks around. You can see later how these black influences later appeared in their dances, music and speech.
September 24th, 2006 at 2:02 pm A minstrel is a poor entertainer who performs for income, the musician, dancer, mime, poet or singer with a cup on the street could be considered a minstrel. I really find it ignorant for some to base the culture and intelligence of a whole group, based on the actions of a few entertainers, whom acting a fool for comedic value in an apparently on purpose manner. They are making a choice on how to express themselves through their medium. Do you think these people function in this manner all during their daily functions? If you do, who is really an ignorant fool.
September 24th, 2006 at 2:11 pm Dont you find it odd, that the black people in region of this country that has taken the biggest and most severe forms of racism is accused of perpetuating racial stereotypes? Do you not think we have a firm grasp on what is truly harmful to not just us, but all people of color in this country?
September 24th, 2006 at 2:26 pm Now its north vs south, with the north being most critical of music that if you used an unbiased analytical ear you will hear similar influences universally. Why must the aspiring efforts of others be ostrasiced because of your particular taste? Its one thing to be critical, but being contemptuous toward your own is new improved bigotry. Fact is, we are free people, we can dance, talk, eat and express ourselves without fear or worry of what others think, is this not America?
September 24th, 2006 at 2:41 pm Finally, with all this talk about a drag queen cooking chicken, a teenager bragging about a chain and children making up a funny named dance, where is the criticism of the murder, drug dealing, drug using, violence and irresponsibility that has been present in the hip hop music of all regions for over two decades? I sense their are hypocrites with an agenda pushing this southern hate. They dont have to like our music, its enough of us that buy it, but this character assassination of general southern is a problem and can become a problem to northern people who visit and live here in the south, who wants to interact with someone who feels like that towards you?
― xhuxk (xheddy), Sunday, 1 October 2006 12:46 (nineteen years ago)
http://blackademics.org/2006/09/25/everybody-want-a-piece-of-my-chicken/
Allyson makes some good points here; several other people do not.
― xhuxk (xheddy), Sunday, 1 October 2006 17:02 (nineteen years ago)
― xhuxk (xheddy), Sunday, 1 October 2006 17:09 (nineteen years ago)
― ramon fernandez (ramon fernandez), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 19:47 (nineteen years ago)
― ramon fernandez (ramon fernandez), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 19:57 (nineteen years ago)
New McMurtry sequel to "We Can't Make It Here" on his website isn't so hot.
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 21:59 (nineteen years ago)
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 22:31 (nineteen years ago)
Chris Young's "I'm Headed Your Way Jose" has a pretty neat conceipt -- come on up here and take my house and Chevrolet since I'm headed down there where things are better anyway and I'll give you a high five at the border -- though Chris seems somewhat deluded, needless to say, about what Jose's life down there is like. Though maybe the delusion is built into the song. Or maybe Chris's point is that his life down there would be better than Jose's is now, I'm not sure...
Rest of his album is seeming okay; kinda pedestrian, but then again I thought that about Trent Willmon's album at first (see above), and I was wrong. I'm in no rush, though; I'll definitely give it time.
Lost Trailers album, I decided, is this year's answer to the last (third) (only good) Warren Brothers album. Whatever that might mean. Either way, it's a keeper -- pretty consistent, if never quite great.
Spady Brannon's album is yet another lifeless songwriter demo tape.
And did I mention that Bomshel go into an amusing "the barn, the barn, the barn is on fire" chant in their stomp? Well, now I did.
― xhuxk (xheddy), Thursday, 5 October 2006 11:22 (nineteen years ago)
I think I found the Chris Young song interesting because it's from acountry artist. When I saw the title I kind of cringed, thinking it was either the millionth iteration of the "I'm going to Mexico to drink you off my mind" or some gimmicky red meat for the Build-a-Wall folks.
― ramon fernandez (ramon fernandez), Thursday, 5 October 2006 22:13 (nineteen years ago)
― xhuxk (xheddy), Thursday, 5 October 2006 22:56 (nineteen years ago)
― xhuxk (xheddy), Thursday, 5 October 2006 22:57 (nineteen years ago)
― ramon fernandez (ramon fernandez), Saturday, 7 October 2006 00:27 (nineteen years ago)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9r0aHQdA6Vg
― xhuxk (xheddy), Sunday, 8 October 2006 02:05 (nineteen years ago)
I found Chris Young's record pretty lame--he has no resonance in his voice, and sounds to me like a halfway good guy who won a talent competition...wait...and the backing, when you compare it to the best stuff this year, is stiff, predictable. the one where the family reunion gets crazy, owing to moonshine and granny slurring her words and the Gators and UT fans fighting, and then the park ranger comes in to break it up (see ya'll all next year!), that's a good idea. "José" strikes me as plain stupid, I mean "Everybody's talking about the aliens invading/While I'm saving every dime for a Mexican vacation." I admire this kind of...avidity, that is maybe the word, in the young man, and certainly, my heaven includes but is not limited to "hot women and cheap beer." Again, I kind of like the idea and far be it from me to warn anyone away from a trip to our sister country and all that. But he's just not much of a performer; and I find the obvious thinking behind this song--"Chris is as concerned about illegal immigration as anyone in Nashville, and he thought it would just be fun to defuse the situation with a little humor"--typical.
xps
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Sunday, 8 October 2006 13:04 (nineteen years ago)
Kelefa's reaction: "great".
My reaction: Not as terrible as I'd feared.
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Thursday, 12 October 2006 13:48 (nineteen years ago)
http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/music/article/0,2792,DRMN_54_5020454,00.html
- TK in "rock 'n' roll is dead" shocker- TK in "lifelong registered democrat" bigger shocker.- TK in sympathy with the tough life the likes of Sammy Hagar and Bon Jovi have in the modern world non-shocker.
― Tim (Tim), Thursday, 12 October 2006 13:56 (nineteen years ago)
My brother bought me the Solomon Burke LP the other day, which was nice of him . I was a bit concerned it was going to be a horrible Unplugged / Later with Jools Holland reverencefest but it's not (all) like that. Oddly the best bits are when SB reins it in and doesn't overdo the King of Rock n Soul thing. The Emmylou song in particular's very fine, perhaps the secret to getting SB to make great records is to keep the cookie jar well-stocked.
― Tim (Tim), Thursday, 12 October 2006 14:02 (nineteen years ago)
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In other news, I have decided that I like both the Eric Church album and its single about over-the-counter pregnancy tests a lot, that I like the Chris Young album much more than Edd Hurt does (the family reunion song always makes me think of if John Anderson covered Chuck Berry's wedding song "You Never Can Tell," though Chris doesn't really sing like Jawn; "Center Of My World" has the same melody as Shooter Jennings' "4th of July" despite being a lot sappier; the price of gas song is better than the one on Billy Ray Cyrus's new album; "Burn" is great too and "Lay It On Me" is a good fast boogie woogie -- so yeah, he's pro forma, but still more fun than any Randy Travis or George Strait in recent memory); the new Billy Ray Cyrus album is pretty good anyway (the gas song and mullet song are completely shameles in great achy breaky tradition and "Lonely Wins" is basically John Cougar's "Lonely Old Night" with new words and the duet with Miley is very nice and "It Wouldn't Be Me" sounds exactly either like some great Glen Campbell song or some great song by somebody else that reminded me of Glen Campbell once); and Trace Adkins is probably a despicable asshole (though his line about the first ammendment protecting you against the government but not his fist still cracks me up) but his new album is good enough to keep regardless thanks to its two shameless disco-country songs and "The Stubborn One," which is awesome, not to mention about his grandpa.
― xhuxk (xheddy), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 11:06 (nineteen years ago)
― xhuxk (xheddy), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 11:29 (nineteen years ago)
decided that the great song on new Montgomery Gentry is "A Man's Job," because it's the funniest. "Redder" strikes me as pretty dumb, since they talk about celebrating redneckdom, "don't get redder than that" but they never really come out and say what it is they're doing to be so red. What I've found interesting about MG, listening to their old records again with the new one and having interviewed Eddie last week, is the way they do twin guitars like in the old days, and how adventurous they can be, musically. What I find sort of offputting, as always, are those choruses, like the title song on the new one. "Here's to the strong/Here's to the brave/Against all odds/Against the grain." Kind of stupid compared to the rest of the song, which I quite like. "Free Ride," the last song, is also a good one. I like them but can't take them for very long. Wait, "having too much fun and laughing too loud all night" is how they show their "country class/ass." I dunno, I mean this convenience store I stop at, at the top of the ridge going up from Nashville, is a real, er, redneck place, and man are those folks fucking loud--a real extended-family-clan-affirmation thing on a really loud level, around about 5:15 in the afternoon. I don't think I could be that loud if I tried, although these folks have the virtue of being extremely direct; they have a direct, penetrating gaze. That's who M-G are singing about, and they get it. But as with Chris Young, I guess, they seem to me able to benefit from more detail in their lyrics, which is why I fucking love "A Man's Job" on the new MG; great music, great lope, and they sing it really well and it's funny. (Eddie, I think, found my comment about the great use of "boy toy" in this one real amusing. And he was a bit coached, but seemed totally sincere when he talked about how his dad used this black gospel group and horns to play country clubs in Ky. back in the '60s and '70s.)
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 16:35 (nineteen years ago)
― don (dow), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 23:21 (nineteen years ago)
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Thursday, 19 October 2006 09:40 (nineteen years ago)
I gotta say I don't hear this at all, and I honestly have no idea what Edd's talking about here. To me Young just sounds like a pop-country singer with a good voice. He has no problem putting songs over. Then again, I don't watch many talent shows, so what do I know?
― xhuxk (xheddy), Thursday, 19 October 2006 10:20 (nineteen years ago)
― xhuxk (xheddy), Thursday, 19 October 2006 10:25 (nineteen years ago)
― xhuxk (xheddy), Thursday, 19 October 2006 10:36 (nineteen years ago)
― ramon fernandez (ramon fernandez), Thursday, 19 October 2006 11:12 (nineteen years ago)
― ramon fernandez (ramon fernandez), Thursday, 19 October 2006 11:15 (nineteen years ago)
and that's one great thing about carrie underwood's record: it's perfectly paced. the songs seem constructed to show off his range, too, like when he goes for "lonely" in "drinkin' me lonely." but yeah, I admit it's a pretty good simulation of travis or someone like that, and it does seem I am in the minority in not liking the record--michael mccall here likes it a lot, and he also likes the mindy smith record, which I can't work up any emotion about.
I dug around a bit and found out that what Troy Gentry is in trouble for in Minn. isn't so much killing Chubby the Bear, but tagging it supposedly illegally and sending the hide back to a taxidermist; Chubby now hangs in Troy's Franklin house. It seems like Troy got some allegedly bad advice from the guy who was his guide up there.
And I guess shooting a bear seems like just a big job I don't want to undertake. (Like getting a talent-show singer up to speed for a record, natch. And maybe that's the whole thing with Chris: it sounds a lot like work to me.) In fact, it seems like a nightmare. I'm the kind of guy who swerves to miss a fucking squirrel in the highway, so shooting a bear named Chubby...apparently, violating the federal Lacey Act brings stiff penalties, and apparently Troy's having a jury trial in Duluth in about 5 weeks.
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Thursday, 19 October 2006 14:28 (nineteen years ago)
― don (dow), Thursday, 19 October 2006 17:36 (nineteen years ago)
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Thursday, 19 October 2006 20:57 (nineteen years ago)
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Thursday, 19 October 2006 21:00 (nineteen years ago)
Also, 4 CD set of new material by Vince Gill. Why?
― ramon fernandez (ramon fernandez), Friday, 20 October 2006 11:58 (nineteen years ago)
Could be Buddy Cannon's production, which seems flat and undefined to me. I think it's the drum sound. He did, if I recall rightly, the one Sara Evans record I don't like, because of the production.
Did anybody else notice that the new M-Gentry record has 1) really good graphics, I think 2) they don't list *any* writers' credits that I see, which is right unusual for a Nashville record?
And anybody heard the new Keith Urban? I think I'm getting a watermarked copy, had to convince them I'm not working the "Paducah and Carbondale corridor," as Colbert and Randy Newman amusingly spoke of in a recent episode that had Newman completely up for Colbert's fine (but sometimes annoying) switcheroo-bullshit act. And not going to make bootleg knockoffs with a nudie pic of Nicole crudely placed on cheap paper. (If you can somehow catch that Colbert Reporr episode again--it ran maybe 10-14 days ago, it's a good one, not least because Newman *sang* "Political Science" as it ended.)
I haven't gotten or heard that Gill. Smart people have told me it's suprisingly good, apparently he does a whole disc of what was described to me as "swamp pop." He's a good damn guitar player, is the thing, a talented guy indeed. And he's got Amy, sweet Amy...
Decided I quite liked the Gary Bennett record. One-time minor leaguer who had to take a job at Home Depot (apparently he did), drinks too much, doesn't like turning 40. Great sound, and I think the record works well as an entity, if a bit depressing on rainy days.
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Friday, 20 October 2006 19:40 (nineteen years ago)
― don (dow), Saturday, 21 October 2006 00:06 (nineteen years ago)
Some People ChangeMichael Dulaney, Jason Sellers, Neil Thrasher
Hey CountryBart Allmand, Danny Myrick, Jeffrey Steele
Lucky ManDavid Cory Lee, Dave Turnbull
Takes All KindsMichael Dulaney, Troy Gentry, Neil Thrasher
Your Tears Are Comin'Tom Hambridge, Jeffrey Steele
CloudsEddie Montgomery, Tony Mullins, Jeffrey Steele
Twenty Years AgoGary Nicholson, Rivers Rutherford, Jeffrey Steele
What Do Ya Think About ThatBrett Jones, Anthony Smith
Redder Than ThatRivers Rutherford, George Teren
Man's JobGary Hannan, Eddie Montgomery, Phil O'Donnell, Thom Shepherd
If You Wanna Keep an AngelTroy Gentry, Rivers Rutherford, Tom Shapiro
Free Ride in the Fast LaneHouston Robert, Rivers Rutherford, George Teren
(Allmusic did mention Mark Wright as having a hand in the production, and Wright is generally excellent.)
Have heard only the title song. Doesn't hit me nearly as hard as it seems to be knocking over everyone else; well sung, well played, surely, hazy wah-wah against precise chording, and I'd be surprised if the Chesney version were as good (never heard it); but this is slow, and the chorus carries a heavy wall of rock sound not unlike late '70s Springsteen (Edd mentioned the Springsteen connection upthread), which just isn't my favorite style. Not nearly as alive and fun as "She Couldn't Change Me." Change schmange. And as for the message of life transformation, this song goes through motions that "Jesus Take the Wheel" does for real. On the other hand, the gospel choir at the end actually lifts the music - I'd almost call it exciting, and I'm generally a hater of gospel choirs in rock songs. The choir in "Like a Prayer" is one of the few others I can tolerate. I'll probably like the album - MG are my favorite band of the '00s (unless you count Ying Yang Twins as a band, and come to think of it, YYT are probably as much a band or not a band as the Montgumbos).
I was just listening to "Some People Change" on Launch Yahoo, and - since I'm on their Spanish language site 'cause it has fewer and better-sounding commercials - which has now tossed Belinda's great "Angel" at me. Talk about knowing how to do melodrama. Someday one of these country bands simply has to go and record in Mexico.
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Monday, 23 October 2006 01:17 (nineteen years ago)
did a critic pick on chris young for the scene; he's participating in this "broadway meets country" benefit at tn.perf. arts ctr. next wk., where people like him, raul malo, etc., sing b-way toonz and the broadway cats go country. it's part of the big leadup to CMA awards here, and in its second year. anyway, I think he can sing just fine, in fact he's quite good, but those fucking songs on that record (his own "drinkin' me lonely" and one or two others are real good, though) were my problem, and buddy cannon's production, which just sounds dated to me. I mean that song about wanting to move to mexico, hard as I try to get into the mindset, if I can use that odious word, that created it, just makes me arf. really disgraceful. if they'll get me in, I'd love to see what he does with other material; and seems to me he shoulda made a record like jamey johnson's. and, turns out young has been trying, had been trying, to get into music even before the nash star stuff, and his dad was sort of in the bizness.
nashville songwriting is such a weird animal, undeniably professional, but wearying. "some people change" is a decent example; it seems to lose its way in that chorus, which drives me nuts, and the song is *everywhere* on the radio here now, giving away the CD, and all that. they have to relate everything to some big emotion and some perceived audience, and of course to the War Effort and the Heroes in Iraq. I mean fuck, I feel for those guys, who wouldn't, and having recently shepherded a couple of friends thru their AA traumas, which are no laughing matter, I guess beating the booze is "heroic," but that chorus is still just Bad Art. it's almost a great song, is the thing, and as frank says, I think the gospel choruses are a good idea. (country seems to be using them more as Signifier of Soul, just like every country record has got to have a song about Dropping My Load and Moving to Sunny Mexico.) but shit, these guys truly maximize Southern rock as effectively as anyone I can think of, and "free ride in fast lane" is pretty great, as is "hey country." which is one of the best songs about being not quite working class I know; very savvy about their audience, and I love the detail where the old boy in the song is working at the auto-repair shop and sometimes they let 'im work on a fan belt or whatever it is--he's a stoner, still, and tends to, uh, forget what the haill he's doing, completely ruint mr. gentry's lexus so we learnt a lesson there. but a good ol' boy, just still thinks he's in high school and he's 27. also, perhaps their most big and rich -influenced song on the record? in short, the m-gentry record ought to be licensed for continuous play at every highschool reunion ('80s) from here to wichita.
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Monday, 23 October 2006 13:03 (nineteen years ago)
― don (dow), Monday, 23 October 2006 17:54 (nineteen years ago)
*Marion's is an EP, six songs, three new, three from the Atlantic alb that was never released here; she's concentrating on the rockers rather than the Max Martins, unfortunately. She's basically transforming herself into an L.A. rocker chick. Meat Loaf's duet with her is in the British Top Ten right now.
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Monday, 23 October 2006 18:34 (nineteen years ago)
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Monday, 23 October 2006 18:46 (nineteen years ago)
― little pink strips for you and me (dow), Monday, 23 October 2006 21:27 (nineteen years ago)
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Monday, 23 October 2006 23:42 (nineteen years ago)