Luomo

"Have You Ever" is great! It's my sixth favourite song on one of my favourite albums of 2008.

Still annoyed that I missed an uusitalo set in Montreal, even though I saw him as Delay and in the MVO trio. I guess it was a long set at the art museum that wasn't officially part of Mutek.

did anyone ever work out who "chubbs" was a pseudonym for on "gets along fine"?

OK I worked out to Convivial today and it sounded good. grrrrrr!

Because you move. The way you move. I've got to keep on moving with you.

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thought this would be revive for new album info

unchill

every time luomo releases a new album my heart breaks again, so i'm glad it's just a revive of my favorite song

new sistol is good

i think he lost his way a little in the last few years with 'convivial' and the live improv vlad delay stuff, but he's still a huge talent

Lol at the idea of "Convivial" being his shark-jumping moment when "Paper Tigers" exists.

He's now saying that he's retired 'Luomo' indefinitely.

pull the plug, sasu

sometimes i wonder if it isn't a blessing that derrick may gave up when he did

Lol at the idea of "Convivial" being his shark-jumping moment when "Paper Tigers" exists.

He's now saying that he's retired 'Luomo' indefinitely.

― Tim F, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 20:12 (26 minutes ago)

ha, i completely forgot about its existence

seem to remember it was 'alright' actually

I seem to remember it was forgettable

ha

I never understood people who got stuck with bands long after their creative peak has passed and specially those playing years old albums when there is so much better stuff nowadays until Luomo's Vocalcity. Why doesn't do more variations on that ultra dark sexual Mille Plateaux / Raster Noton house thing? You know, there's like four more albums to datamine from that particular record! I wish I had some talent so I could build a whole career out of my chillwave / hypnagogic impressions of him circa 2000.

He also said no more Uusitalo oh well

elan OTM. after "Paper Tigers," i was done.

that said, "Really Don't Mind" was a pretty decent track, especially the Radio Edit.

always meant to pick up the album after loving the radio edit of Really Don't Mind, so I still have the impression that there's a whole album of goodness waiting for me

keep it that way

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three new Luomo songs on myspace
http://www.myspace.com/luomomusic

h8 ya luomo

new album new traxxx! http://www.luomomusic.org/#4

New album is a banger. May disappoint some people who don't want the project to disappear into the dancefloor and lose its luomo-ness (this is the least erm micro and least pop Luomo album yet) but some of the builds on these tracks would destroy a club.

It's not flashy-dense like Convivial was, more just really voluptuous dancefloor chuggers.

And the first schaffel track I've cared about in ages.

Excited!!!!!!

huh i didn't get any sense of bangingness at all from it, thought it was kinda flat with a few nice moments but after filing my review didn't feel compelled to return to it at all

you reviewed it and got to keep a copy

yeah but it's actually out now too

3 October I think.

Such is the state of my cred with record labels slash "the industry" that I have to listen to it on stream for review purposes.

the release date i was told was 18 sep?

having to stream albums sucks, i refuse to review based on them unless there's no other option

pushed back

Re the album itself, I expect I'll end up liking it less than Convivial (and Vocalcity and The Present Lover) but a lot more than Paper Tigers.

From what I've heard of it, if Convivial was Uusitalo with vocals Plus is Sistol with vocals.

From memory Lex our favourite tracks on Convivial were rather different and I suspect that I can see in that the basis of our convergence w/r/t the new one.

Really Don't Mind is still better than anything on The Present Lover. Albeit just.

eh

better than "What Good"??! o_O

feel like he lost all his finesse with the vocal cut-up shtick on Paper Tigers, "Really Don't Mind" included.

I almost wish I hadn't read this, I may take a pill and lie in bed until October when I can maybe get my hands on it!

What Good is only the fourth or fifth best track on The Present Lover (which is why TPL is still a good chunk better than PT).

RIP Luomo
2000 AD - 2000 AD

It seems weird to say, but what the best material on the new album (e.g. "Make My Day", "Happy Strong") puts me in mind of is Michael Mayer crossed with Carl Craig.

What's definitely gone is the shimmer that's basically been Luomo's calling card since "The Present Lover".

From memory Lex our favourite tracks on Convivial were rather different and I suspect that I can see in that the basis of our convergence w/r/t the new one.

hmm, i'm not sure - i really liked convivial overall, but i'm not really after another vocal-led pop album from luomo per se, but it's the lack of shimmer and finesse you and lou correctly identify that makes it so whatever to me. i mean, there's stuff to enjoy about it, certainly, i gave it 3/5 - "how you look" is a bit H&LA and it's a good look, love the rattling percussion on "good stuff". it's just, you know...your typical three-star album. nice moments but not special.

So far my barrier to Plus is the vocals. On Convivial and PL especially the vocals were so distinctive, it made them a real highlight. I'm only streaming this at the moment so I'll wait judgment until I've purchased a CD copy. It took me a few listens to appreciate Convivial anyway.

The vocals definitely are basically just nominal structures around which to weave the grooves, which the exceptions of "Form In Void" and "Immaculate Motive" perhaps. Can't really see disliking them per se, but certainly they're not in any way haunting/charming like TPL's vocals often were. OTOH, at least they don't get in the way like they so often do on the Art Department album (which in some senses is a good point of comparison for this album).

As I said originally I can definitely get people saying "this has abandoned too many of the things that made me love Luomo to really adore it." It's really just good luck (for me) that Sasu has shifted towards another aesthetic (hyper-dense percussive layered house) that I feel very close to. If someone on Get Physical or Poker Flat or Kompakt had released this album at any time in the last 10 years I'm thinking it would have been top ten of that year for me.

I feel "Good Stuff" is the weakest track actually - 9 minutes spent barely building on its opening premise. Whereas look how much ground "Form In Void" covers in 4.

You really love hyperrhythmic percussive ish don't you Tim! Is this a thing that comes out of being a jungle fan I wonder - I was too young for any of that and it's not something I especially prioritise over texture and groove.

I thought the vox were kinda dull depeche modeisms tbh, not actively annoying a la art dept tho.

You really love hyperrhythmic percussive ish don't you Tim! Is this a thing that comes out of being a jungle fan I wonder - I was too young for any of that and it's not something I especially prioritise over texture and groove.

Absolutely, though I got into jungle and uk garage simultaneously and think the comes from that combination more than either alone.

I definitely think this album devalues texture (at least compared to his prior best work) as part of beefing up the role of rhythm - esp. vis a vis The Present Lover which is maybe its polar opposite, quite simple rhythms but absurdly swollen textures. Paper Tigers, of course, was basically Luomo indulging in luomoesque textures but with no real purpose or function (and his weakest rhythms).

("groove" is more the unifyer of how all these things plus melody move your body)

The part of Convivial that I feel the best tracks here (especialy "Make My Day" the second half of which is just insane, esp. turned up to ear-bleed volumes) pick up on is the second half of "Slow Dying Places", that sense of endlessly spiralling upward intensity.

What I would have loved but sadly isn't here is more of the vaguely Carribean snare action from "Gets Along Fine".

well excited about the new one

i don't know how you guys can absorb this music so fast. i'm still getting to grips with the new ones. didn't like either of them on first listen.

streaming here http://3voor12.vpro.nl/speler/luisterpaal/45128519#luisterpaal.45128519

I definitely think this album devalues texture (at least compared to his prior best work) as part of beefing up the role of rhythm - esp. vis a vis The Present Lover which is maybe its polar opposite, quite simple rhythms but absurdly swollen textures.

It's not either/or though is it? A lot of the textural interest on Vocalcity comes from changing and evolving rhythms brushing up against each other in different ways.

The second half of Slow Dying Places is my favourite part of Convivial, give or take an Apparat collaboration here or there, but actually I think this album plays it quite straight rhythmically in comparison. Admittedly there might be some elements than aren't coming through in the stream.

But it's really good nonetheless, and surprisingly ravey and bleepy for Luomo. The Depeche Mode-style vocals work, I think, because there's a slightly colder, more warehousey feel to the whole sound.

But yeah, to an extent this sounds like it could have been made by anyone. But if anyone had made it, it would still be really good, so...