Is SPIN really circling the drain?

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In otherwards, ILX.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 2 March 2006 16:13 (twenty years ago)

"other words," ned -- don't make me sic our nonexistent copyeditors on you!

(mark s will write the style guide, with special entries for "haha," "nu-god," and "roXoR")

― geeta (geeta), Thursday, 2 March 2006 16:16 (twenty years ago)

"Let's Buy SPIN!"

ahahahahahaha

I don't know why I find this so funny. Future Art Brut song title?

― Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 2 March 2006 16:22 (twenty years ago)

dave q will be the "taking sides" editor. in every issue, he'll take sides against himself, and then write about it. we'll explode the tyranny of binary opposition and let him take n+1 sides, where "n" is a number we'll figure out by rolling a 20-sided die.

― geeta (geeta), Thursday, 2 March 2006 16:25 (twenty years ago)

>:(

― ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Thursday, 2 March 2006 16:26 (twenty years ago)

"other words," ned -- don't make me sic our nonexistent copyeditors on you!

Help help!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 2 March 2006 16:31 (twenty years ago)

geeta don't forget Anthony's punk-pop singles round-up.

― Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 2 March 2006 16:34 (twenty years ago)

why do you throw the editorial staff in the blender when it's so clear that ad sales killed the mag?

when ad sales and readership is down, people don't tend to start blaming the advertising sales force. People start looking at the product that is for sale. And that product is mostly the responsibility of the editorial staff. But if you want to make the case that the editorial staff was delivering a desired product Chris, go ahead and make that case.

oh, and Happy Birthday Ned.

― don weiner (don weiner), Thursday, 2 March 2006 16:38 (twenty years ago)

i think if everyone on ILX throws down a grand, we could buy spin
-- gear (speed.to.roa...), February 19th, 2006 9:41 AM.

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I actually really like that idea! Good god it would be fun for the half an issue before we ran it into the ground.
-- Sterling Clover (s.clove...), February 19th, 2006 10:29 AM.

― gear (gear), Thursday, 2 March 2006 16:39 (twenty years ago)

x-post No one will put out a new magazine that is fun to read because everyone under the age of 20 knows that reading is no fun. They must only be fun to *look at*, leaving plenty of brain power left to concentrate on using the toilet.

― Josh in Chicago (Josh in Chicago), Thursday, 2 March 2006 16:41 (twenty years ago)

ill handle the advertising and/or bookeeping.

― maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Thursday, 2 March 2006 16:55 (twenty years ago)

the title of this thread reminds me of every Newsweek cover headline ever

― Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:00 (twenty years ago)

oh, and Happy Birthday Ned.

Thanks!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:00 (twenty years ago)

"No one will put out a new magazine that is fun to read because everyone under the age of 20 knows that reading is no fun."

Even though I'm biased, I really do think Decibel is the best music mag being made in the U.S. But genre mags don't have to play by the same rules as normal mags. they can assume that people know a little bit about the subject and don't have to spoon feed. I still think someone could do this with a music mag aimed at a general audience. write intelligently and with a sense of humor and not play dumb. i really think people would be appreciative. spin started out that way.

― scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:05 (twenty years ago)

my hero:

http://www.popmatters.com/music/interviews/mudrian-albert-060228.shtml

― scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:08 (twenty years ago)

I would say the case is made by the fact that Andy Pemberton is the replacement meant to change the product, don.

― Chris Ott (Chris Ott), Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:12 (twenty years ago)

"When Andy Pemberton came to New York in 2001 to help launch Dennis Publishing’s new music mag, Blender, he says he felt that the music mags on the market were tired and arduous. He couldn’t understand how music writers could take something that he thought was “the most fun thing” and make it tedious."

― scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:16 (twenty years ago)

cuz music writers are in charge of what gets printed, in case you didn't know.

― scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:17 (twenty years ago)

We like the post-Colonial electronica that goes boom.

― Chris Ott (Chris Ott), Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:18 (twenty years ago)

this is completely confusing:

"There's a new music magazine, Tracks, which is marketed to an older listening audience. Does this magazine affect you?
It is a totally different audience; however, we do cover album reissues. Before us, no other magazines did that. We like to maintain a wider presence, but I think that it would also be a good idea to do a Mojo-like magazine in America."

Is he really saying that Blender was the first magazine to review reissues? Why would he say that?

― scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:26 (twenty years ago)

according to their own publisher's statement, spin's newsstand price was 94 cents in second half of last year. is that right?

(second half 05 newsstand sales: rs - 129k, blender 82k, spin 52k)

― dan (dan), Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:56 (twenty years ago)

Were there an ILM: The Magazine, I would want to do the Sassy-style puff pieces on famous celebrities: "Patricia Churchland...Tab or Fresca?"

― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Thursday, 2 March 2006 18:51 (twenty years ago)

That would be fantastic.

― My Psychic Friends Are Strangely Silent (Ex Leon), Thursday, 2 March 2006 19:20 (twenty years ago)

like i said upthread, the black metal dudes would get their own corner

― latebloomer: where dignity goes to die (latebloomer), Thursday, 2 March 2006 20:29 (twenty years ago)

Like, corner of the office, or corner of the magazine?

― Eppy (Eppy), Thursday, 2 March 2006 20:30 (twenty years ago)

It is laughably ridiculous that you continue to ridicule black metal untrendy tr00 believers such as myself, Vas and Sami, usw, like this. As if we would want a corner of the Spin, do me a break. Should we write little pop articles for girls? What I am hearing is absurd! Let me know anyone if you would like me to YSI their new demo.

― Janne Karlsson, Thursday, 2 March 2006 20:40 (twenty years ago)

but with Spin, you'd all have an outlet to pervert the minds of impressionable young readers across the country!

― latebloomer: where dignity goes to die (latebloomer), Thursday, 2 March 2006 20:43 (twenty years ago)

you could review current metal albums and school the youngun's on being kult and necro and shit

― latebloomer: where dignity goes to die (latebloomer), Thursday, 2 March 2006 20:44 (twenty years ago)

And you could decorate your corner however you want! Ok, within certain limits.

― Eppy (Eppy), Thursday, 2 March 2006 20:44 (twenty years ago)

yeah, just prolly not animal carcasses, the other staff members might not appreciate the smell.

― latebloomer: where dignity goes to die (latebloomer), Thursday, 2 March 2006 20:47 (twenty years ago)

i leve the carcass of my prey where i want, waekling

― Mr. Vas Djifrens (byzantum), Thursday, 2 March 2006 20:49 (twenty years ago)

and you would not want to be decoratement on the walls of my office, i am guessing

― Mr. Vas Djifrens (byzantum), Thursday, 2 March 2006 20:51 (twenty years ago)

Perhaps small pentagram on floor? OK, maybe I am sympathetic to this wish. However if people become afraid, so bad for them, for it is well across the internet known my reviews are uncompromising and pull off no punches.

― Janne Karlsson, Thursday, 2 March 2006 20:52 (twenty years ago)

this is more what i am having in mind

http://www.visualwalkthroughs.com/doom3/administration/doom3-2004-08-23-16-05-25-2.jpg

― Mr. Vas Djifrens (byzantum), Thursday, 2 March 2006 21:09 (twenty years ago)

That is the guy from Children of Boredom who make stupid faces?

― Janne Karlsson, Thursday, 2 March 2006 21:13 (twenty years ago)

no, but it will be

― latebloomer: where dignity goes to die (latebloomer), Thursday, 2 March 2006 21:20 (twenty years ago)

you know nothing weakling, of my victims.

― Mr. Vas Djifrens (byzantum), Thursday, 2 March 2006 21:21 (twenty years ago)

time for your pills

― blunt (blunt), Thursday, 2 March 2006 21:24 (twenty years ago)

more changes:

http://www.gawker.com/news/spin/what-goes-up-must-come-down-spinnin-wheel-got-to-go-round-158054.php

― mark p (Mark P), Thursday, 2 March 2006 21:24 (twenty years ago)

SPIN should just reprint old issues from late 80s/early 90s in their entirety and sell those.

― dar1a g (daria g), Thursday, 2 March 2006 21:29 (twenty years ago)

I'd buy that.

― Eppy (Eppy), Thursday, 2 March 2006 21:29 (twenty years ago)

would it be bad to open a bottle of champagne in celebration of the -- hopefully - permanent demise of Marc Sptiz?

― juana, Thursday, 2 March 2006 22:02 (twenty years ago)

Juana makes wine from the tears of Ultragrrrl.

― Chris Ott (Chris Ott), Thursday, 2 March 2006 22:20 (twenty years ago)

Back to ILM Magazine, could I have a deep house review section please ? No reviews, no ratings, no BS : just a list of unfailingly fine, recently re(re)leased recordings to be bought eyes closed & ears open.

― blunt (blunt), Thursday, 2 March 2006 22:44 (twenty years ago)

I think the name for the ILM Magazine should be CIRCLING THE DRAIN.

― joseph cotten (joseph cotten), Thursday, 2 March 2006 22:48 (twenty years ago)

Is ILM really circling the drain? (answer: yes)

― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Thursday, 2 March 2006 22:49 (twenty years ago)

We've recycled and are currently in cloud formation mode.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 2 March 2006 22:57 (twenty years ago)

The whole "drain" imagery has me thinking of ILM, from

http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/mag/2004/10/17/images/2004101700060501.jpg

http://www.oscarworld.net/psycho1.jpg

― Je4nne Æ’urÂ¥ (Je4nne Fury), Thursday, 2 March 2006 22:58 (twenty years ago)

Revolver sold for $4 million. Considering Revolver has no outstanding debt and actually makes money, it's basically worth more that SPIN. Wow.

― ng-unit, Wednesday, 8 March 2006 15:40 (twenty years ago)

but no one here cares, b/c a.) no name crits have ever had anything to do with it, b.) its the butt-rock journal of note. However, it was sold by Harris Publications, which used to own Guitar World. Now Future Music owns GW and Rev, and Harris is divested of music titles.

― veronica moser (veronica moser), Thursday, 9 March 2006 00:40 (twenty years ago)

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